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Posted: 8/15/2019 1:02:20 PM EDT
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It’s that time again! My first day back is Monday, and the students join us the following Monday. The project this year is Mission to Mars- Cultivating Our Future from Wyoming to Mars
For the last seven years, ARFCOM has been an essential part of the adventure my students experience with the building of permanent large installation projects here at our high school. I know that this year will be no different, and our success will be attributable to the incredible help that so many of you provide. My Art classes will again work with CAD students, Welding students, Woodworking students, and Robotic students to try to create our next display. I’m hoping with our subject this year, we can get some agronomy students also involved. For those new to our adventures, roughly 60-80 students from grades 9-12 will work the entire school year to build from scratch a permanent 3D display in an area roughly 13.5’x18.5’. Some students might only spend an hour working on this, some three weeks, and some might spend several hours every day the entire year. This will roughly (some will remember last year’s prediction of $1200, and how off I was by the end, $2700) cost around $2000. Yeah, let’s try to stay there this year. The generosity in both funds, equipment, and advice last year made all the difference in being able to spend that much money on such a project. We will again have to have a t-shirt sale to celebrate the adventure and raise the funds needed. Our new build area is the breakout room next to the Agriculture and Robotics rooms. They came to me last spring, knowing we had few areas left to work in, and asked if we would do something in their area, oriented towards their disciplines. I will admit, that building a tractor was not at the top of my list of “fun” ideas, but many students were excited about this idea, and once ARFCOM started throwing out ideas(Rover wheels on the tractor-Thanks @Frank_B ), my fun meter spiked substantially. I’m hoping students will be inspired with the idea of linking cultivating fields in WY, to the eventual cultivating fields on Mars. So here is what I’m envisioning right now: Our new home for this year. The trophies and banners will all come down.- 13.5ft x 18.5 ft. Same size as the locomotive area -Martian and Wyoming landscapes blended across the room-Heart Mountain, fields, desert, to Martian landscape, envirodomes Our school is on the left in front of the water tower. -Probably a 1/3rd scale???? John Deere EV tractor altered adding moving “Rover” wheels. We need some diagrams for the tractor. -3D environment with rocks, fields, envirodomes, possible live agronomy display -Drones scanning fields-one of the Robotics old platforms will/could be used also. -Rover movement-move across the wall? -14 foot tall? SpaceX Falcon Heavy rocket/launch surrounding the support beam (bottom portion lit up with clear lights simulating launch?). As with past years, I’m sure this will be altered a bit as the adventure proceeds, and ARFCOM adds to ideas. Our team of students has changed of course, and we will be missing our lead Robotics student who went so far above and beyond what was expected last year. Hopefully we find someone to fill his shoes. I should have back several of my lead builders again. I ran the idea by them a week ago, and they were excited to get started. Please share any ideas you might come up with! Even if we don’t use it, the ideas can spur discussion, and lead to new thoughts. The brainstorming ARFCOM provides is always one of the most interesting and important aspects of this process. Here is last year’s thread: https://www.ar15.com/forums/General/1-3rd-Scale-17ft-Marine-One-Helicopter-Project-ThreadUpdate-6-17pg54-magazine-article-/5-2133113/ Previous adventure.... https://www.ar15.com/forums/general/ALL-ABOARD-1-3rd-scale-Baldwin-4-4-0-Locomotive-Update-5-24pg29-The-End-is-here-Video-/5-2025503/ |
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Originally Posted By guns762:
Yup, definitely a possibility. I'm hoping we could make that move across the wall, then back? Much depends on how much the Robotics dept can do for us this year. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes |
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Originally Posted By guns762:
Good notes to remember. I wonder if the greenhouse style is more for the people and their mental health rather than for the plants. Maybe a more tinted glass would be appropriate? View Quote It's also amusing to me that most of the rocks on Mars that have been "cleaned" by rovers are white or blue. Once we give it a good dusting, Mars may not be the "red planet" anymore. |
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Originally Posted By guns762:
Working in the designs should be fun. Lots of ways we can go with it. Hopefully you will have enough room in your drawer for one more. I noticed mine was getting kind of full. View Quote |
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OP, I have news for you.
There is now an annual Space Conference in Austin, TX. Link Any chance your students would be in the Cities in Space competition? |
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Originally Posted By webtaz99:
Most people (even Mars enthusiasts) tend to forget the realities of the being on the surface. And yes, growing plants will help people's morale and mental health, but there will be windows on the wall, rather than greenhouses. It's also amusing to me that most of the rocks on Mars that have been "cleaned" by rovers are white or blue. Once we give it a good dusting, Mars may not be the "red planet" anymore. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By webtaz99:
Originally Posted By guns762:
Good notes to remember. I wonder if the greenhouse style is more for the people and their mental health rather than for the plants. Maybe a more tinted glass would be appropriate? It's also amusing to me that most of the rocks on Mars that have been "cleaned" by rovers are white or blue. Once we give it a good dusting, Mars may not be the "red planet" anymore. |
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Originally Posted By webtaz99:
OP, I have news for you. There is now an annual Space Conference in Austin, TX. Link Any chance your students would be in the Cities in Space competition? View Quote |
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Originally Posted By guns762:
What's best about Arfcom, is that we will get excellent data to work with and make our display as realistic as possible. I'd much rather be able to explain to students why the greenhouses won't be clear, than have the display not be realistic. View Quote |
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Glad to see this years thread started!
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Originally Posted By Ashraam:
You can buy clear PVC pipe, but I'm not sure how easy it is to source in your area. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes |
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Originally Posted By guns762:
I've bought 1/2" and 3/4", but we are going to need something like 18" if possible. That or we need to find a clear bucket, or something similar. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By guns762:
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There you go! Perfect. Now I just need to find a big enough clear strong tube for the base. |
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Originally Posted By SCW: Thanks for the mention, this could be a cool one. I have access to a lot of stuff, so I’ll keep up to date and see if I can contribute at all. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By SCW: Thanks for the mention, this could be a cool one. I have access to a lot of stuff, so I’ll keep up to date and see if I can contribute at all. Originally Posted By Mech2007: I'll read it over when I get home from work.
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Originally Posted By NostalgiaforInfinity:
If you're going for realism, then skip the falcon heavy and go with Starship. Heavy will never make it to Mars since (among other reasons) it doesn't have the right kind of engines to harvest fuel on mars for a return trip, while the Raptor engines on Starship should be able to utilize in situ methane for its fuel. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By NostalgiaforInfinity:
Originally Posted By guns762:
What's best about Arfcom, is that we will get excellent data to work with and make our display as realistic as possible. I'd much rather be able to explain to students why the greenhouses won't be clear, than have the display not be realistic. |
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Originally Posted By GregMc:
At that size, all I've seen is about $500 per lineal foot (18" dia). A little spendy. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By GregMc:
Originally Posted By guns762:
Originally Posted By Ashraam:
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There you go! Perfect. Now I just need to find a big enough clear strong tube for the base. Yeah, and we will probably need a couple feet. I'll bet someone makes a bucket that might work. |
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Originally Posted By guns762:
I understand what you are saying, but I need to cover the pole, and the Heavy will do that without much extra. View Quote Put a V2 rocket on that pole. |
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since I was "@ed" and in the aerospace industry...in and let me read through this thread for ideas. Donations for certain.
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Originally Posted By guns762:
Yeah, and we will probably need a couple feet. I'll bet someone makes a bucket that might work. View Quote Large, straight sided, clear carboys are common, could get a couple and cut the ends off, easily hide the splice with structural arches. Here's one 11" diameter, with maybe 12" of straight wall after cutting it up, $29: Amazon Run a structural member down the crest of the tube to hide a splice, buy two carboys for every foot of tube and make a round structural element to wrap it around and you increase your diameter. But by that point it probably makes more sense to buy thin plastic sheet and wrap it around structural elements, make the tube from scratch. Plexiglass sheet can be heat molded into all sorts of self-supporting shapes. Blow moulding 1800mmØ acrylic dome. 900mm high hemisphere Acrylic Drape Forming. Moulding Perspex to any shapes. |
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How many art students do you have this year? I may be able to offer something up for you guys, but can’t do the 60-80 total from all the classes. |
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Love these threads.
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Guns, here is a link to a media cast transcript that explains some of the hurdles with growing food in space and Mars. The topic is further down when Dr.Gioia Massa and Ralph Fritsche enter the discussion. Would probably be a good read for you and your class with respect to your project.
https://www.nasa.gov/mediacast/episode-1-mars Every once in a while I get to work with some of the experiments in the ISS APH. |
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Originally Posted By Mal_means_bad:
I've never seen a transparent 5 gallon bucket, just translucent. Large, straight sided, clear carboys are common, could get a couple and cut the ends off, easily hide the splice with structural arches. Here's one 11" diameter, with maybe 12" of straight wall after cutting it up, $29: Amazon Run a structural member down the crest of the tube to hide a splice, buy two carboys for every foot of tube and make a round structural element to wrap it around and you increase your diameter. But by that point it probably makes more sense to buy thin plastic sheet and wrap it around structural elements, make the tube from scratch. Plexiglass sheet can be heat molded into all sorts of self-supporting shapes. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6XNvNH6Z_6w https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0TOW92869cg View Quote I suppose we could form our own. Kids will be so excited when I tell them we get to do it again. . |
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Originally Posted By RiverSwine45:
Guns, here is a link to a media cast transcript that explains some of the hurdles with growing food in space and Mars. The topic is further down when Dr.Gioia Massa and Ralph Fritsche enter the discussion. Would probably be a good read for you and your class with respect to your project. https://www.nasa.gov/mediacast/episode-1-mars Every once in a while I get to work with some of the experiments in the ISS APH. View Quote |
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Originally Posted By raysheen:
@guns762 How many art students do you have this year? I may be able to offer something up for you guys, but can’t do the 60-80 total from all the classes. View Quote |
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Originally Posted By RoccoOnFire:
Love these threads. I have a bunch of surplus electronic components from obsoleted products that I can send some of if you are interested. If not for their intended purpose, just for aesthetics or something. semiconductors, leds, 8 character displays, connectors, naked power supplies, and a bunch of other stuff. PM me when you get into it if you are interested. View Quote |
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Originally Posted By guns762:
Yeah, and we will probably need a couple feet. I'll bet someone makes a bucket that might work. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By guns762:
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Originally Posted By guns762:
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Originally Posted By guns762:
There you go! Perfect. Now I just need to find a big enough clear strong tube for the base. Yeah, and we will probably need a couple feet. I'll bet someone makes a bucket that might work. The cotton lighting effects from the modeling guys along with red, amber, orange, and white LEDs could look awesome. Sweet idea with the plastic fiber optic as well. Remember to get Robotics the outline of the idea before October. |
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