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Posted: 2/16/2018 6:27:44 PM EDT
http://www.guns.com/2018/02/16/sweeping-assault-weapon-ban-floated-in-rhode-island/

Lawmakers in the nation's smallest state are planning a large package of bills in conjunction with gun control activists that could see bans on certain types of semi-automatics and their magazines.

Allied with the Rhode Island Coalition Against Gun Violence, Sen. Joshua Miller, D-Cranston, and Rep. Jason Knight, D-Barrington, are introducing proposals in both chambers of the legislature that would add the same types of firearms restrictions seen in neighboring Connecticut and Massachusetts. Knight argued the move is needed to protect public safety in the aftermath of a high-profile school shooting in Florida this week.

"It will take a multi-pronged strategy that includes banning the sale and ownership of assault weapons," Knight said. "There (sic) purpose goes far beyond defense of self and home. There is no place for them in civil society."

The measures, part of the local gun control group's longstanding legislative agenda, aims to not only go after some types of semi-auto firearms currently legal in the state but also, through a measure sponsored by state Sen. Gayle Goldin, D-Providence, any detachable magazine capable of holding more than 10 rounds.

Goldin's bill has no provision for grandfathering targeted magazines already in circulation, leaving owners to sell them to a gun dealer, hand them over to police, or move them out of the state.

"High-capacity magazines turn already powerful guns into weapons whose sole purpose is to incur multiple deaths and injuries as quickly as possible," said Goldin. "They are illegal for hunting, and they are unnecessary for protection. They are a tool that enables mass shooters to carry out their heinous acts, leaving countless victims dead every year, and there's no valid reason to allow their use and sale here in Rhode Island."

While shootings do occur in the state, especially in some urban areas, according to the FBI rifle use in murders across Rhode Island is rare. As detailed in statistics from the agency, of Rhode Island's 29 homicides in 2016 for which the weapons used were, none were attributed to rifles of any sort although nine were accomplished with knives. Likewise, there were no homicides in the state chalked up to rifles in 2015, 2014, 2013, or 2012, the furthest researched by Guns.com for this piece.

In addition to the bans, the package also includes a measure to put schools in the state off-limits for those who are carrying otherwise legal concealed handguns, with exceptions for law enforcement.

WARNING! If you have something positive to contribute to this HT forum thread, then please do so. We will need all the help we can get. OTOH, if you cannot offer real, sincere help, then  do not post in this thread.  I reserve the right to sanction posters in this thread whose posts are not helpful.  raf

EDIT - Poll here, hit it hard!!!

http://www.providencejournal.com/news/20180215/ri-lawmakers-to-renew-push-for-assault-weapon-ban--poll-video
Link Posted: 2/16/2018 6:33:40 PM EDT
[#1]
Ahh, its for their own good. For they're safety, that changes everything
Link Posted: 2/16/2018 6:36:34 PM EDT
[#2]
When do they get to the Shall not be Infringed part...
Link Posted: 2/16/2018 6:37:04 PM EDT
[#3]
That will accomplish nothing, other than violating the rights of their citizens.
Link Posted: 2/16/2018 6:37:34 PM EDT
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if you think that the anti gun crowd has ever given one single fuck about that you clearly haven't been paying very close attention.
Link Posted: 2/16/2018 6:39:15 PM EDT
[#5]
Idiocracy
Link Posted: 2/16/2018 6:41:15 PM EDT
[#6]
The more states that do this dumb shit, the more of a chance that SCOTUS gets conflicting lower court opinions so they are forced to take it.
Just hope that RBG or one of the other liberal cunts dies soon...
Link Posted: 2/16/2018 6:42:48 PM EDT
[#7]
Sure, it worked great in CT.

Sandy Hook to be more specific.
Link Posted: 2/16/2018 6:46:33 PM EDT
[#8]
I continue to be amazed that the meat between the buns of MA and CT is relatively free of anti-2nd Amendment disease.
Link Posted: 2/16/2018 6:53:43 PM EDT
[#9]
They'll probably get at least one state lever AWB out of this.
Link Posted: 2/16/2018 7:18:01 PM EDT
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http://www.guns.com/2018/02/16/sweeping-assault-weapon-ban-floated-in-rhode-island/

Lawmakers in the nation's smallest state are planning a large package of bills in conjunction with gun control activists that could see bans on certain types of semi-automatics and their magazines.

Allied with the Rhode Island Coalition Against Gun Violence, Sen. Joshua Miller, D-Cranston, and Rep. Jason Knight, D-Barrington, are introducing proposals in both chambers of the legislature that would add the same types of firearms restrictions seen in neighboring Connecticut and Massachusetts. Knight argued the move is needed to protect public safety in the aftermath of a high-profile school shooting in Florida this week.

"It will take a multi-pronged strategy that includes banning the sale and ownership of assault weapons," Knight said. "There (sic) purpose goes far beyond defense of self and home. There is no place for them in civil society."

The measures, part of the local gun control group's longstanding legislative agenda, aims to not only go after some types of semi-auto firearms currently legal in the state but also, through a measure sponsored by state Sen. Gayle Goldin, D-Providence, any detachable magazine capable of holding more than 10 rounds.

Goldin's bill has no provision for grandfathering targeted magazines already in circulation, leaving owners to sell them to a gun dealer, hand them over to police, or move them out of the state.

"High-capacity magazines turn already powerful guns into weapons whose sole purpose is to incur multiple deaths and injuries as quickly as possible," said Goldin. "They are illegal for hunting, and they are unnecessary for protection. They are a tool that enables mass shooters to carry out their heinous acts, leaving countless victims dead every year, and there's no valid reason to allow their use and sale here in Rhode Island."

While shootings do occur in the state, especially in some urban areas, according to the FBI rifle use in murders across Rhode Island is rare. As detailed in statistics from the agency, of Rhode Island's 29 homicides in 2016 for which the weapons used were, none were attributed to rifles of any sort although nine were accomplished with knives. Likewise, there were no homicides in the state chalked up to rifles in 2015, 2014, 2013, or 2012, the furthest researched by Guns.com for this piece.

In addition to the bans, the package also includes a measure to put schools in the state off-limits for those who are carrying otherwise legal concealed handguns, with exceptions for law enforcement.
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So. even though there were no homicides in the state chalked up to rifles in 2015, 2014, 2013, or 2012,
lets ban them anyways. Because the 'feels'.

And lets create some more gun-free victim zones. More 'feels'.
measure to put schools in the state off-limits for those who are carrying otherwise legal concealed handguns,

Fucking politicians.
Link Posted: 2/16/2018 7:23:03 PM EDT
[#11]
Holy fucking shit they are stupid and evil.

BAN LIBERALS!
Link Posted: 2/16/2018 7:29:44 PM EDT
[#12]
You ain’t seen shit yet. Just wait until the left gets control of Washington again. I’m probably a pessimist, but our RKBA days are numbered....
Link Posted: 2/16/2018 7:33:31 PM EDT
[#13]
The radio news is right in line mentioning the bills every half hour and  that AWB expired 14 years ago....

Our first and completely use less female Governor (Gina who actually strongly resembles Adam Lanza/Newton shooter to me) is on the sound bites with the Democrap ban talking points...She got fucked as she was planning to work for Hillary....

Gun owners do pretty good job mobilizing here I can remember seeing Sarah Brady being here in the 90's and we are still AWB free, but need to remain diligent as more "Progressives" are getting elected and they are crazy and should be banned from owning anything dangerous
Link Posted: 2/16/2018 7:33:48 PM EDT
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Actually I was shocked the Republicans made out as good as we did. Just the sheer numbers of the potential voter pool the democrats have bred through entitlement programs is alarming. If they can ever get those numbers out of the house we are fudged.
Link Posted: 2/16/2018 7:36:30 PM EDT
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So. even though there were no homicides in the state chalked up to rifles in 2015, 2014, 2013, or 2012,
lets ban them anyways. Because the 'feels'.

And lets create some more gun-free victim zones. More 'feels'.
measure to put schools in the state off-limits for those who are carrying otherwise legal concealed handguns,

Fucking politicians.
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http://www.guns.com/2018/02/16/sweeping-assault-weapon-ban-floated-in-rhode-island/

Lawmakers in the nation's smallest state are planning a large package of bills in conjunction with gun control activists that could see bans on certain types of semi-automatics and their magazines.

Allied with the Rhode Island Coalition Against Gun Violence, Sen. Joshua Miller, D-Cranston, and Rep. Jason Knight, D-Barrington, are introducing proposals in both chambers of the legislature that would add the same types of firearms restrictions seen in neighboring Connecticut and Massachusetts. Knight argued the move is needed to protect public safety in the aftermath of a high-profile school shooting in Florida this week.

"It will take a multi-pronged strategy that includes banning the sale and ownership of assault weapons," Knight said. "There (sic) purpose goes far beyond defense of self and home. There is no place for them in civil society."

The measures, part of the local gun control group's longstanding legislative agenda, aims to not only go after some types of semi-auto firearms currently legal in the state but also, through a measure sponsored by state Sen. Gayle Goldin, D-Providence, any detachable magazine capable of holding more than 10 rounds.

Goldin's bill has no provision for grandfathering targeted magazines already in circulation, leaving owners to sell them to a gun dealer, hand them over to police, or move them out of the state.

"High-capacity magazines turn already powerful guns into weapons whose sole purpose is to incur multiple deaths and injuries as quickly as possible," said Goldin. "They are illegal for hunting, and they are unnecessary for protection. They are a tool that enables mass shooters to carry out their heinous acts, leaving countless victims dead every year, and there's no valid reason to allow their use and sale here in Rhode Island."

While shootings do occur in the state, especially in some urban areas, according to the FBI rifle use in murders across Rhode Island is rare. As detailed in statistics from the agency, of Rhode Island's 29 homicides in 2016 for which the weapons used were, none were attributed to rifles of any sort although nine were accomplished with knives. Likewise, there were no homicides in the state chalked up to rifles in 2015, 2014, 2013, or 2012, the furthest researched by Guns.com for this piece.

In addition to the bans, the package also includes a measure to put schools in the state off-limits for those who are carrying otherwise legal concealed handguns, with exceptions for law enforcement.
So. even though there were no homicides in the state chalked up to rifles in 2015, 2014, 2013, or 2012,
lets ban them anyways. Because the 'feels'.

And lets create some more gun-free victim zones. More 'feels'.
measure to put schools in the state off-limits for those who are carrying otherwise legal concealed handguns,

Fucking politicians.
Liberals have a mental disorder.

I went round and round with the guy that owns the grocery store in the next town over-said his "No Guns Allowed" sign kept his employees and customers safe.

I gave up and stopped going there.Stupid stupid people out there........
Link Posted: 2/16/2018 7:37:44 PM EDT
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Or maybe the days of getting along in relative peace are numbered............
Link Posted: 2/16/2018 7:42:06 PM EDT
[#17]
F*ck those politicians.
Link Posted: 2/16/2018 7:47:35 PM EDT
[#18]
I bet a few more states will fall in the aftermath of this shooting.

RI I guess is a possibility, WA, OR and maybe CO are going to be in the Bloomberg/Soros/Giffords crosshairs too.

And naturally CA, NY, NJ etc will see additional regulations.
Link Posted: 2/16/2018 7:51:13 PM EDT
[#19]
Here's a Providence Journal poll.  I suggest we hit this, and *hard*.

http://www.providencejournal.com/news/20180215/ri-lawmakers-to-renew-push-for-assault-weapon-ban--poll-video

(Please leave cold. We don't want them to discount results coming from here.)
Link Posted: 2/16/2018 7:52:26 PM EDT
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Sure, it worked great in CT.

Sandy Hook to be more specific.
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See......they just didn't do enough of it
Link Posted: 2/16/2018 8:03:19 PM EDT
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Well the ban in CT did come as a result of Sandy Hook.
Link Posted: 2/16/2018 8:06:33 PM EDT
[#22]
I have liberal relatives in RI who are probably frothing up at this news.............both have stated they don't like guns and think I should have to give mine up for the good of America............and one is thinking of running for office
Link Posted: 2/16/2018 8:12:27 PM EDT
[#23]
The sheer ignorance is staggering.

'Feel good' laws passed by people with absolutely zero knowledge of the Constitution or about what they are legislating against.

Enjoy your tyranny, RI. May you chains rest lightly upon you.
Link Posted: 2/16/2018 8:13:32 PM EDT
[#24]
I don't understand why they aren't banning murder. Seems like that would work, and everyone would vote for.  Just ban the killing of others and this problem is solved.
Link Posted: 2/16/2018 8:16:01 PM EDT
[#25]
RBG can't have that shitting death soon enough.

KEK!
Link Posted: 2/16/2018 8:22:00 PM EDT
[#26]
Obviously the original colonies no longer cherish freedom.  It's an outdated concept now.
Link Posted: 2/16/2018 8:24:40 PM EDT
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RBG can't have that shitting death soon enough.
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Link Posted: 2/16/2018 8:33:32 PM EDT
[#28]
No need to worry.

The NRA will be along soon to prevent such a thing.
Link Posted: 2/16/2018 8:35:16 PM EDT
[#29]
Gun Control has never been about promoting public safety.  It is always about controlling the Citizens.  Gun laws can't protect you.
Link Posted: 2/16/2018 8:37:46 PM EDT
[#30]
We've been getting hit hard over the last bunch of years. Every year the same bills as well a flurry of others meant to strip away our 2nd Amendment get introduced.

There are other, albeit few bills, that get introduced as well. Some that would not only benefit the Citizens of RI, but our neighboring states as well as individuals from other parts of the country who are visiting.

Each year, the vast majority of both good and bad bills get held for further review ... aka, the kiss of death for it until the following session.

Last year, they brought a bill back and rushed it through. This bill removes any and all firearm rights to a selected group of people.

Last year, the confidence was relatively high in that the guberment would not pass any anti bills.

This year they are coming for us with everything they and their rich, out of state, benefactors have.

This year we are going to need a lot of help from you all and I hope you will frequent the RI hometown forum to see the latest and what can be done.

Thank you and for those that ...

TL/DR:
We are going to need a metric shit ton of help this year to beat all the anti-firearm bills.

ETA: This link is to a thread in the RIHTF concerning  a fund raiser for our primary defense team. The NRA needs to take lessons from RI Second Amendment Foundation.
Link Posted: 2/16/2018 8:42:17 PM EDT
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Never

because nothing is ever done about it. Even more so when you get the NRA tripping over themselves to come out and advocate for "reasonable restrictions" after a shooting.
Link Posted: 2/16/2018 8:44:36 PM EDT
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if you think that the anti gun crowd has ever given one single fuck about that you clearly haven't been paying very close attention.
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When do they get to the Shall not be Infringed part...
if you think that the anti gun crowd has ever given one single fuck about that you clearly haven't been paying very close attention.
I'm sure that the game plan is to eliminate the 2A state by state. For the states that refuse to infringe, I'm sure that they will be coerced to doing so by other states that have already crossed that line. Kind of like a "Join us or die" sort of thing.

I'm also drinking, so take that for what it's worth.
Link Posted: 2/16/2018 8:49:20 PM EDT
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'shall not be infringed' is a fantasy and a knee jerk response with these types of laws are enacted at the state level. and thats how this is gonna play out in the short term. states pass laws in what many argue are contrary to the 2nd amendment. my opinion is that the NFA act of 1936 is contrary to the 2nd amendment but its stood the test of time and the supreme court.

states like massachusetts and california have been 'infringing' for some time now.

incidents like the fla shooting will only increase the rate of such laws at the state level.

this pisses a lot of folks off on this board but its how things are playing out and will continue to do so unless incidents like this are somehow stopped.

theres one component of this that is part of the issue. and there is no solution that i can see and that is mass school shootings have picked up a sort of cache for the truly sick folks. nothing gets coverage like the mass slaughter of helpless folks. for the truly demented and evil people, this seems to be something that more than one person is emulating.
Link Posted: 2/16/2018 8:57:09 PM EDT
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Well the ban in CT did come as a result of Sandy Hook.
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Sandy Hook to be more specific.
Well the ban in CT did come as a result of Sandy Hook.
All the laws that were proposed were in effect in CT. Ct kept the Fed awb after 04.
Link Posted: 2/16/2018 8:59:36 PM EDT
[#35]
That's pants on head retarded.
Link Posted: 2/16/2018 8:59:47 PM EDT
[#36]
Thanks, states' rights people.
Link Posted: 2/16/2018 9:00:13 PM EDT
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Fantastic, just what we need more people moving to Texas
Link Posted: 2/16/2018 9:59:22 PM EDT
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Maybe
Link Posted: 2/16/2018 10:07:17 PM EDT
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There's two sides in all abusive relationships, one to abuse and one that allows it.
Link Posted: 2/16/2018 10:08:13 PM EDT
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No need to worry.
The NRA will be along soon to prevent such a thing.
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Link Posted: 2/16/2018 10:09:22 PM EDT
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Sounds like RI shoild look at banning knives. 29 homicides and 9 with knives.
Link Posted: 2/16/2018 10:09:26 PM EDT
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Illegal for hunting?  I use mine for prairie dogs, coyotes and raccoons, legally.
Link Posted: 2/16/2018 10:16:05 PM EDT
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I guess I need to start adding "thank you God for blessing me with residency in a free state" to my daily prayers.
Link Posted: 2/16/2018 10:19:03 PM EDT
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There's 2-3 weeks in September that you can use a center fire rifle on state land. I always do my woodchuck and coyote hunting then.
Link Posted: 2/16/2018 10:21:53 PM EDT
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They learned, and will not allow grandfathering for anything.

Hopefully these assclowns get shut down eventually by the courts based on Heller and common use
Link Posted: 2/16/2018 10:24:18 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 2/16/2018 10:24:58 PM EDT
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Feels. That makes their feels tingle.
Link Posted: 2/16/2018 10:29:48 PM EDT
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They learned, and will not allow grandfathering for anything.

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Every year they propose the same bills. Every year they get knocked down. Half the Democrats in the state of pretty conservative and won't pass shit.

The range I work at pt has a few state reps that shoot.
Link Posted: 2/16/2018 10:38:30 PM EDT
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Every motherfucking year , I have to go to the state house , usually twice. Once in the sweltering heat, and once in the freezing cold, to rally against these same fucking shit bills.

So far, we're keeping them at bay.
So far....

Assholes.

Link Posted: 2/16/2018 10:47:05 PM EDT
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All the laws that were proposed were in effect in CT. Ct kept the Fed awb after 04.
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Well the ban in CT did come as a result of Sandy Hook.
All the laws that were proposed were in effect in CT. Ct kept the Fed awb after 04.
Not exactly accurate. CT guys had plenty of serious firepower before Newtown, and in fact, NFA toys were not beholden to the awb rules.

A couple pix from an Arfcom Ct shoot, a couple years before Newtown.
We had a shit ton of fun.

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