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Posted: 8/22/2017 9:20:22 PM EDT
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Just don't get it with the ugly painted bumpers.
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Posted: 8/22/2017 9:21:35 PM EDT
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What's up with the waxed frame, I'm thinking about them too.
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Posted: 8/22/2017 9:23:03 PM EDT
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I have 15, my only regret is I got a double cab instead of a crew
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Posted: 8/22/2017 9:23:42 PM EDT
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I have an 07' z71 that has 136k. Currently in the shop for a new engine, after having the top end rebuilt last year. Got a new tranny at 120k. Have had a 14' F150 and wife has a 16' Dodge Ram. Before that, she had a 07' Ram that was traded in at 175k. This will be the last Chevy I own. One before it was an 06' Colorado, had many regrets with that one as well.
Good Luck! |
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Posted: 8/22/2017 9:25:51 PM EDT
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Just don't get it with the ugly painted bumpers. |
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Posted: 8/22/2017 9:27:46 PM EDT
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I'm turned off by the GM Active Fuel Management (cylinder deactivation). Dealbreaker for me. I own two GM trucks, neither has an AFM engine.
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Posted: 8/22/2017 9:27:53 PM EDT
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They good to go. I have a 08, 15, 16 and 18. Well kinda have an 18. It's sitting up there waiting on a train ride to SC. They built it in 1 day and it's been sitting for 21 days.
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Posted: 8/22/2017 9:29:22 PM EDT
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I've owned 3; 2007, 2012, 2014 ( current truck).
I've been happy; pretty trouble-free, nice drivers. I rode in a 17 when they came out. It was a Z71, and very nice. |
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Posted: 8/22/2017 9:29:56 PM EDT
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I'm turned off by the GM Active Fuel Management (cylinder deactivation). Dealbreaker for me. I own two GM trucks, neither has an AFM engine. |
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Posted: 8/22/2017 9:32:11 PM EDT
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My dad has a 15. GM family forever, but mylink/cue or whatever they call their infotainment system is terrible enough I'd get a Ford over it.
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Posted: 8/22/2017 9:32:16 PM EDT
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I asked the salesman if it had the cylinder displacement and he said it did not. Wtf . So they go drop cylinders depending on demand?
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Posted: 8/22/2017 9:34:18 PM EDT
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I've kind of started looking at the Chevys too. I like that they seem a little more compact than the Fords.
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Posted: 8/22/2017 9:34:46 PM EDT
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I purchased a 16 crew cab last year. Overall it has been a good truck. The ground clearance sucks though. It has about 8" of real world clearance. My tundra I had previously was about 12.5" . I have had a hard time adjusting to the loss. A lift kit is definitely in the future. Also the transmission has full retard programming. It is overly setup to attempt to get better gas mileage at the expense of throttle response. A programmer and different tune will probably be in the future for me also. The awd/4wd works really well. Gas mileage is way better than the tundra I had. Ride quality is pretty good for a truck.
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Posted: 8/22/2017 9:37:22 PM EDT
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I asked the salesman if it had the cylinder displacement and he said it did not. Wtf . So they go drop cylinders depending on demand? Unless you are getting a 6 litre gasser 3/4 ton he lied to you. Or are you looking at a V-6 ? |
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Posted: 8/22/2017 9:39:29 PM EDT
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Unless you are getting a 6 litre gasser 3/4 ton he lied to you. Or are you looking at a V-6 ? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I asked the salesman if it had the cylinder displacement and he said it did not. Wtf . So they go drop cylinders depending on demand? Or are you looking at a V-6 ? And I did think I felt it quiver one time like it was doing something silly. That's when i asked him |
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Posted: 8/22/2017 9:39:43 PM EDT
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Had 2 up until recently. One was a 15' Z71 Crew that I traded in at 65k miles. Bought it new June of 15. The other one that I still have is a 15 Crew 1500 2wd, other than Z71 package optioned identically to the other, and it has 80k miles as of today. Bought it new in November of 15. GM makes a reliable powertrain, and drivetrain. They do make an electrical nightmare though. AC went out on the one I still have at 62k miles. Right out of warranty. I wouldn't have had the work done under warranty regardless though. It's a 2-3 month backlog on the parts through warranty, and I need this truck now. I had it in and out of the local AC shop in 4 hours and at a tune of $380. The owner of my company and our field coordinator both have identical trucks to the one I just traded. One was at 74k miles and the other was at 35k miles, and both had the exact same issue.
I've had 4 Chevy Crew 2500 4x4s since 2012, and all have been extremely reliable beside for little shitty electrical gremlins. Power locks, window regulators, 12v power, etc. I've put roughly 450-500 miles on those trucks of solid abuse. I only miled one out at 200k. The rest I got out of within 75-150 miles due to relocation, job change, etc. |
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Posted: 8/22/2017 9:40:32 PM EDT
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That AFM is what killed mine both times. |
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Posted: 8/22/2017 9:40:57 PM EDT
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Who owns one? Regrets? Issues? Bout to spring for a 2017 crew cab. Should I? Also, no I don't want a Ford. Yes I looked. Just curious, why not the Ford? What didn't you like? |
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Posted: 8/22/2017 9:42:18 PM EDT
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No. It was a 5.3 V8 And I did think I felt it quiver one time like it was doing something silly. That's when i asked him Cylinder shut downs are seemless in the DI 5.3's. You will not know they are getting shut down unless you have the icon showing in the DIC. |
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Posted: 8/22/2017 9:43:11 PM EDT
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Just curious, why not the Ford? What didn't you like? |
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Posted: 8/22/2017 9:43:20 PM EDT
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No. It was a 5.3 V8 And I did think I felt it quiver one time like it was doing something silly. That's when i asked him Unless something has changed, which I don't believe to be true, hens either misinformed or lying to you. My bet is lying. |
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Posted: 8/22/2017 9:44:14 PM EDT
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Is there a bad year range, or is AFM still the ultimate killer of these engines. One day I will have to replace my beater '00. 2007-2010 seemed to be the problem years. Dirty oil is what causes most of the issues. They were warrantied up to 100,000 miles and most were fixed under warranty. |
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Posted: 8/22/2017 9:44:40 PM EDT
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Cylinder shut downs are seemless in the DI 5.3's. You will not know they are getting shut down unless you have the icon showing in the DIC. |
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Posted: 8/22/2017 9:45:42 PM EDT
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I cross shopped them with my F150 in 2015. Allllllll the V8 1500s had AFM that turned down to 4 cyl. Wasn't an option and you couldn't turn it off. Unless something has changed, which I don't believe to be true, hens either misinformed or lying to you. My bet is lying. Guarantee he was lying his face off. I would have fired him for pulling that shit. |
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Posted: 8/22/2017 9:46:37 PM EDT
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Never noticed any icons switching on or off. They are usually noticeable. You can select whether the icon is showing or not. |
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Posted: 8/22/2017 9:46:42 PM EDT
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Had a 2012 LTZ 5.3 4x4 Love the sound of the LS! The interior, given the sticker price, was absolute shit. Seems to be a common theme in GMs. Truck ran great, just wanted something sportier and didn't care for the value received.
ETA you can turn off the AFM by using tow/haul mode or better yet by getting a tune. 
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Posted: 8/22/2017 9:46:52 PM EDT
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last ford my dad had was in 1990 and he's hated them ever since
i bought a '17 power stroke and he promptly followed me, dumping his high country 6.2 for a lariat powerstroke in chevy's defense, most of his reasoning was that he didn't want a bitch half ton anymore however, since the switch he's said that ford has gm whipped on everything in-cab |
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Posted: 8/22/2017 9:50:57 PM EDT
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I have a 2015 z71 with the 5.3. 30,000 miles on it. It's been great. Getting 22 to 23 mpg on highway
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Posted: 8/22/2017 9:52:43 PM EDT
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I love my '16....except the waxed frame. I will never buy a truck with a waxed frame ever again. If you do any amount of off-roading, it's a bitch to maintain. No big deal for the guys who trade up every 2-5 years but I drive mine until they die.
That being said, I'd make the same purchase over again compared to the other offerings currently. Can't wait to see the new generation. |
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Posted: 8/22/2017 9:53:45 PM EDT
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Had a 2012 LTZ 5.3 4x4 Love the sound of the LS! The interior, given the sticker price, was absolute shit. Seems to be a common theme in GMs. Truck ran great, just wanted something sportier and didn't care for the value received. ETA you can turn off the AFM by using tow/haul mode or better yet by getting a tune. |
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Posted: 8/22/2017 9:55:11 PM EDT
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I'm sure they would love finding that tune that took out the AFM. Especially under a warranty claim. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Had a 2012 LTZ 5.3 4x4 Love the sound of the LS! The interior, given the sticker price, was absolute shit. Seems to be a common theme in GMs. Truck ran great, just wanted something sportier and didn't care for the value received. ETA you can turn off the AFM by using tow/haul mode or better yet by getting a tune. 
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Posted: 8/22/2017 9:55:23 PM EDT
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Just don't get it with the ugly painted bumpers. |
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Posted: 8/22/2017 9:56:54 PM EDT
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I have a '15 Double Cab. Sometimes i wonder if I should have went with the Crew Cab? But I do like the full size bed.
I really like the "Auto" 4 wheel drive. When driving in the snowy Ohio winters, it really comes in handy. I don't have to worry about whether I should be in 4x4 or not, it's just automatic. I've not had any issues with my truck to this point in time. Very solid thus far. I had an '08 prior to this one. Good trucks. |
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Posted: 8/22/2017 9:57:06 PM EDT
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Cylinder shut downs are seemless in the DI 5.3's. You will not know they are getting shut down unless you have the icon showing in the DIC. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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No. It was a 5.3 V8 And I did think I felt it quiver one time like it was doing something silly. That's when i asked him You will not know they are getting shut down unless you have the icon showing in the DIC. |
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Posted: 8/22/2017 9:58:41 PM EDT
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I have a '15 Double Cab. Sometimes i wonder if I should have went with the Crew Cab? But I do like the full size bed. I really like the "Auto" 4 wheel drive. When driving in the snowy Ohio winters, it really comes in handy. I don't have to worry about whether I should be in 4x4 or not, it's just automatic. I've not had any issues with my truck to this point in time. Very solid thus far. I had an '08 prior to this one. Good trucks. |
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Posted: 8/22/2017 10:01:38 PM EDT
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Chrome sucks. Let me guess, you also like two-tone paint jobs, pin striping, and caps on the bed? It's 2017... 
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Posted: 8/22/2017 10:03:28 PM EDT
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Chrome sucks. Let me guess, you also like two-tone paint jobs, pin striping, and caps on the bed? It's 2017... chip and then look like shit |
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Posted: 8/22/2017 10:03:53 PM EDT
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I love my '16....except the waxed frame. I will never buy a truck with a waxed frame ever again. If you do any amount of off-roading, it's a bitch to maintain. No big deal for the guys who trade up every 2-5 years but I drive mine until they die. That being said, I'd make the same purchase over again compared to the other offerings currently. Can't wait to see the new generation. |
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Posted: 8/22/2017 10:05:01 PM EDT
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I have a 15 crew cab. Love it.
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Posted: 8/22/2017 10:05:31 PM EDT
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I bought a 16 Silverado Z71 LTZ package in October of last year. It's almost hedonistically outfitted with accessories.
The ONLY thing I dislike over the first year of ownership and 11,000 miles is the 8 speed transmission. The 8 speeds is flawless when I'm pulling a loaded trailer, but it's a PITA otherwise. It has clunky downshifts, slips/shimmies when upshifting, and is always shifting into a higher gear which makes the engine feel boggy. Now if you put your foot into it the rear tires will break loose effortlessly. I bought a tuner and altered the shifts which improved it some. |
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Posted: 8/22/2017 10:05:44 PM EDT
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know what painted bumpers do? chip and then look like shit |
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Posted: 8/22/2017 10:06:27 PM EDT
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I was wondering how they did in the snow. Pretty good I guess? |
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Posted: 8/22/2017 10:07:15 PM EDT
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The AFM cylinder deactivation is very noticeable. The tow/haul mode does not disable the afm. I put the range afm plugin device on mine. It runs on all 8 cylinders all the time now.
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Posted: 8/22/2017 10:08:21 PM EDT
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All current GM 6 and 8s have it. You barely notice it. In the truck at least if you put it in manual mode and set it to top out in 5th gear it will never go into 4-cylinder mode. So around town leave it in 5th, then drop it to 6th when you hit the highway. AFM really helps with your fuel economy on the highway I've made trips where I've averaged 27 miles per gallon in a full size crew cab pickup
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Posted: 8/22/2017 10:09:23 PM EDT
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Yes. I have regular factory 20" road tires on mine still. That "auto" 4x4 (which of course one can switch to both 2hi & 2lo electricly) is very nice. Let's face it, you're not always in the snow when driving on the freeway or back roads. Automatically switches to 4x4 when it feels any tire slippage. |
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Posted: 8/22/2017 10:09:44 PM EDT
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last ford my dad had was in 1990 and he's hated them ever since i bought a '17 power stroke and he promptly followed me, dumping his high country 6.2 for a lariat powerstroke in chevy's defense, most of his reasoning was that he didn't want a bitch half ton anymore however, since the switch he's said that ford has gm whipped on everything in-cab |
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Posted: 8/22/2017 10:11:09 PM EDT
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All current GM 6 and 8s have it. You barely notice it. In the truck at least if you put it in manual mode and set it to top out in 5th gear it will never go into 4-cylinder mode. So around town leave it in 5th, then drop it to 6th when you hit the highway. AFM really helps with your fuel economy on the highway I've made trips where I've averaged 27 miles per gallon in a full size crew cab pickup |
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Posted: 8/22/2017 10:11:18 PM EDT
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Chrome sucks. Let me guess, you also like two-tone paint jobs, pin striping, and caps on the bed? It's 2017... |
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Posted: 8/22/2017 10:11:31 PM EDT
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I also like the "hill assest" feature. It keeps your truck from rolling back when you're at a stop on a somewhat steep hill. Automatically locks the brakes until you hit the gas.
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Posted: 8/22/2017 10:13:53 PM EDT
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I'm sure they would love finding that tune that took out the AFM. Especially under a warranty claim. |
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