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Posted: 8/21/2017 1:28:45 PM EDT
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I have a photo of a first degree murder defendant holding my 1 year old during a break in her trial.  
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Posted: 8/21/2017 1:32:08 PM EDT
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I know nothing about this particular situation beyond the news, but I'm shocked judges don't end up killed more often.
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Posted: 8/21/2017 1:32:20 PM EDT
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Local news says both suspects were felons, and the one in custody is a black man. For what it's worth.
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Posted: 8/21/2017 1:45:07 PM EDT
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Local news says both suspects were felons, and the one in custody is a black man. For what it's worth. Quote HistoryQuoted:
Local news says both suspects were felons, and the one in custody is a black man. For what it's worth. and STEUBENVILLE, Ohio (AP) — The Latest on the shooting of a judge outside an Ohio courthouse (all times local):
1:15 p.m. An Ohio sheriff says a judge fired back at a man who shot him outside a courthouse, killing him. Jefferson County Sheriff Fred Abdalla (ab-DAL’-uh) says courthouse video shows Judge Joseph Bruzzese (bruh-ZEEZ’) Jr. firing about five shots at the gunman, who also fired about five shots. Link |
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Posted: 8/21/2017 5:05:52 PM EDT
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Looks like the earlier rumors about the shooter were accurate.
Father of convicted player shoots judge |
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Posted: 8/21/2017 5:10:42 PM EDT
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POs here are usually social worker types, never heard of a police officer going into it. Interesting. |
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Posted: 8/21/2017 6:44:42 PM EDT
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We're taking a very dim view of the whole thing here. I've been saying for years that this was the way to get a Judge if you really wanted one. Looks like this Judge had situational awareness and a buddy in tow. No amount of shooting at Judges will get your kid out of prison. Quite the contrary. |
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Posted: 8/21/2017 6:51:20 PM EDT
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Looks like the earlier rumors about the shooter were accurate. Father of convicted player shoots judge
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Posted: 8/21/2017 6:59:51 PM EDT
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I know nothing about Ohio, but in NY probation officers get marginal, at best, training, like sometimes a day at the range. That PO brought it though, good on him/her. |
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Posted: 8/21/2017 7:04:11 PM EDT
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he shot at a judge because his kid did ten months in juvie on a rape charge? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Looks like the earlier rumors about the shooter were accurate. Father of convicted player shoots judge The judge that was shot today appears to be a general division common pleas judge, not a juvenile court judge. Was he a juvenile judge previously? I have no idea. |
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Posted: 8/21/2017 7:06:13 PM EDT
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Ours aren't even armed. State law at one point required that they be weapon trained, so they supposedly bought them guns, trained them as per state law, then sold the guns and tried to get the state law changed to make firearms training optional for POs |
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Posted: 8/21/2017 7:06:39 PM EDT
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Per the article linked above, the judge was assigned to a wrongful death case filed by the shooter. The rape case filed against the shooter's son was handled in juvenile court by a visiting judge from Cincinnati. The judge that was shot today appears to be a general division common pleas judge, not a juvenile court judge. Was he a juvenile judge previously? I have no idea.
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Posted: 8/21/2017 7:12:03 PM EDT
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From the first link, "A Facebook page in Nathaniel Richmond’s name attributed to him by CBS Pittsburgh says as its intro “Mamir abdull muhumad” and indicates he was in a “civil union” and from Chicago, Illinois."
http://heavy.com/news/2017/08/nathaniel-richmond-steubenville-rape-malik-ohio-judge-shot-joseph-bruzzese/ https://www.facebook.com/nathaniel.richmond |
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Posted: 8/21/2017 7:38:43 PM EDT
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For a small city Steubenville sure has a lot of shootings. Still alert for them there cannibals though
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Posted: 8/21/2017 9:44:56 PM EDT
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I know nothing about Ohio, but in NY probation officers get marginal, at best, training, like sometimes a day at the range. That PO brought it though, good on him/her. But our state court and our criminal code allows us to carry on duty but they allow the judges to ignore it and decide if we carry or not in their circuit. Its frustrating. EVERY person we deal with is a convicted criminal usually felon but we are largely unarmed. |
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Posted: 8/21/2017 9:49:02 PM EDT
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POs here are usually social worker types, never heard of a police officer going into it. Interesting. Its a mixed bag in our state. |
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Posted: 8/21/2017 9:51:28 PM EDT
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I have a photo of a first degree murder defendant holding my 1 year old during a break in her trial. |
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Posted: 8/21/2017 9:52:18 PM EDT
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... You know it's odd how often angry people blame their own lawyer, not the other lawyer or judge. When i was clerking in law school a former public defender said he was pretty scared of his former clients and thought they were often more mad at him than anyone else ie "you didn't get me off the hook." I had a hearing a few months ago where a guy I was questioning went batshit, swore and left the building. You could hear him in the parking lot screaming about how much he hated his lawyer, not me or the judge. 
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Posted: 8/22/2017 6:38:59 AM EDT
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Poor shot or quick reactions? https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=9tkMYoOLAhk  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9tkMYoOLAhk |
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Posted: 8/22/2017 7:33:41 AM EDT
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That just sounds like bad parenting Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I have a photo of a first degree murder defendant holding my 1 year old during a break in her trial. |
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Posted: 8/22/2017 10:25:08 AM EDT
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That dude was an idiot. But I am surprised judges don't end up dead on a regular basis, especially family court judges. |
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Posted: 8/22/2017 10:30:20 AM EDT
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The news account's witness's statement is very Steubenville: "My alarm went off at 8 a.m., and I snoozed it, and a minute or two later, I heard approximately 7 or 8 gunshots, and I went to look out the window and I seen somebody in a white shirt, probably a detective, kneeling down firing at something, and that’s when I knew something happened down here," witness Cody Allison said. Interesting. |
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Posted: 8/22/2017 10:36:33 AM EDT
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That's the right kind of activist judge.
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Posted: 8/22/2017 10:57:17 AM EDT
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It's a "side" thing, in my experience. Most folks I deal with see the police, the judges, and the D.A.s as being the other side, and their own lawyer(s) as being on their side. The other side is always out to get you, so whatever, but if your side fails you it smacks of betrayal. |
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Posted: 8/22/2017 12:00:45 PM EDT
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The judge was presiding over a civil wrongful death case the shooter filed.
"Court records indicate that in April of 2017, Richmond filed a wrongful death lawsuit against the Jefferson Metropolitan Housing Authority on behalf of the estate of Mae Etta Richmond. Attorneys from a Cleveland firm were representing him. Also listed as plaintiffs in the case are Latasha Birden, Tony Dillard and two minors on behalf of the estate for Te'On Dillard. " http://wtov9.com/news/local/judge-was-presiding-over-shooters-civil-litigation-against-housing-authority |
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Posted: 8/22/2017 12:02:56 PM EDT
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I'm just shocked their isn't more kinetic targeting of prosecutors, judges and certain police personnel. I can think of some federal prosecutors that have been killed under mysterious circumstances, but far fewer judges or cops. |
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Posted: 8/22/2017 12:10:53 PM EDT
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Gotta love people of that caliber......that when they shoot a judge, it takes a shitload of digging to figure out which court case the shooter was involved in that also involved that particular judge!
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Posted: 8/22/2017 12:26:56 PM EDT
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I'm just shocked their isn't more kinetic targeting of prosecutors, judges and certain police personnel. I can think of some federal prosecutors that have been killed under mysterious circumstances, but far fewer judges or cops. |
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Posted: 8/22/2017 1:11:32 PM EDT
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I've been lucky. Never had a problem with a criminal client. i represented a murderer (well "manslaughterer") on appeal. I drove out to the prison and met with him. Very pleasant, he had an odd sing songey voice. Appeal went okay, forgot about it. years later I stop at the grocery store late at night and hear "Hi there!" In that same odd voice and almost screamed. I spun around and there he was. He was pretty cool, staying out of trouble and getting on with life, but God damn I almost shit myself. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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It's a "side" thing, in my experience. Most folks I deal with see the police, the judges, and the D.A.s as being the other side, and their own lawyer(s) as being on their side. The other side is always out to get you, so whatever, but if your side fails you it smacks of betrayal. i represented a murderer (well "manslaughterer") on appeal. I drove out to the prison and met with him. Very pleasant, he had an odd sing songey voice. Appeal went okay, forgot about it. years later I stop at the grocery store late at night and hear "Hi there!" In that same odd voice and almost screamed. I spun around and there he was. He was pretty cool, staying out of trouble and getting on with life, but God damn I almost shit myself. Kharn |
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