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Posted: 6/12/2017 6:53:07 PM EDT
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........McCain handily won his last election,so we are stuck with him for another 5 1/2 years.And the healthcare they receive is the best in the world,so don't get your hopes up of the reaper coming............ |
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Posted: 6/12/2017 6:55:47 PM EDT
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Bill number? How can legislators be exempt from laws and it NOT violate the 14th Amendment? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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This must stand a chance. California is clearing LEOs (and legislators) from the state level prohibition on suppressors. The little people will still be put under the jail if caught with one. IIRC the state penalty matches the fed one (10 year mandatory minimum). How can legislators be exempt from laws and it NOT violate the 14th Amendment? |
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Posted: 6/12/2017 6:56:23 PM EDT
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Let us know when you fire up the lathe. You're going to be rich undercutting the market! |
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Posted: 6/12/2017 6:58:38 PM EDT
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But the prices will still be $800 or more because a tube with caps on the end is damn near impossible to manufacture.  |
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Posted: 6/12/2017 6:59:25 PM EDT
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Yep,there's only a handful of people in the US that could possibly make suppressors............. |
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Posted: 6/12/2017 7:00:42 PM EDT
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I'll be calling my representative tomorrow. That said, it is scheduled for a hearing within a subcommittee of a committee. So take that for what its worth. |
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Posted: 6/12/2017 7:01:04 PM EDT
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"Compromise"  |
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Posted: 6/12/2017 7:02:59 PM EDT
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Just fired off an email to my representative Comstock. Here's to hoping us gun owners get a nice bone thrown our way.
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Posted: 6/12/2017 7:04:56 PM EDT
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You can get any number of disposable suppressors from AutoZone. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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But the prices will still be $800 or more because a tube with caps on the end is damn near impossible to manufacture. Read an article on them a few years back. Guys bitching about suppressor prices and excited about a disposable plastic can that costs $2 per round. I've got several thousand rounds through my surefire. Including the stamp I'm probably at $0.25 per round cost on it and it doesn't just fit one gun. More proof that a large segment of GD is unable to do 4th grade division homework. |
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Posted: 6/12/2017 7:05:55 PM EDT
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Does that mean Harbor Freight will be getting their FFL and slinging Norinco goodies by the container ship load? |
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Posted: 6/12/2017 7:07:08 PM EDT
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You are more than welcome to come up and use mine. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Let us know when you fire up the lathe. You're going to be rich undercutting the market! |
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Posted: 6/12/2017 7:07:36 PM EDT
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How many committees need to hear this thing before it can go to the House floor? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I'll be calling my representative tomorrow. That said, it is scheduled for a hearing within a subcommittee of a committee. So take that for what its worth. |
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Posted: 6/12/2017 7:08:54 PM EDT
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Hilarious. Guys bitching about suppressor prices and excited about a disposable plastic can that costs $2 per round. I've got several thousand rounds through my surefire. Including the stamp I'm probably at $0.25 per round cost on it and it doesn't just fit one gun. More proof that a large segment of GD is unable to do 4th grade division homework. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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But the prices will still be $800 or more because a tube with caps on the end is damn near impossible to manufacture. Read an article on them a few years back. Guys bitching about suppressor prices and excited about a disposable plastic can that costs $2 per round. I've got several thousand rounds through my surefire. Including the stamp I'm probably at $0.25 per round cost on it and it doesn't just fit one gun. More proof that a large segment of GD is unable to do 4th grade division homework. |
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Posted: 6/12/2017 7:10:02 PM EDT
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Which congressperson do we need to contact?
It is time to burn the phone lines into DC. Get this out of committee, to the floor and to the other house. |
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Posted: 6/12/2017 7:11:20 PM EDT
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Lol, too bad those "republicans" are limp-dicked fuckups afraid of their own shadow. I want to believe but with McCain's, Graham's and Ryan's running the show, I don't. |
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Posted: 6/12/2017 7:12:15 PM EDT
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over the counter suppressors, cheap Chinese ak-47's, sks's, svd's, ak mags and Chinese ammo..... I want to believe ..I.want a PE57 with a can. |
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Posted: 6/12/2017 7:12:46 PM EDT
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They took a very long walk around all those practical shooting sports to reach that very bizarre conclusion. Here's to hoping the bullshit is over with. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Currently you are only allowed to temporarily loan a firearm to a resident of another state for a "sporting purpose". ATF has interpreted sporting purpose as traditional hunting and sport shooting (trap & skeet) purposes. They don't consider self protection, IDPA, 3gun, etc as a "sporting purpose" Here's to hoping the bullshit is over with. |
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Posted: 6/12/2017 7:13:29 PM EDT
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Lol, too bad those "republicans" are limp-dicked fuckups afraid of their own shadow. I want to believe but with McCain's, Graham's and Ryan's running the show, I don't. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Hillary lost-get over it. The Republicans control all 3 branches.Fasten your seatbelt........... I want to believe but with McCain's, Graham's and Ryan's running the show, I don't. |
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Posted: 6/12/2017 7:15:25 PM EDT
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Still requires support to pass - although this sounds a little more mainstream appealing, than the HPA alone.
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Posted: 6/12/2017 7:16:11 PM EDT
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IN for the disappointment |
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Posted: 6/12/2017 7:17:52 PM EDT
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This, but it's probably better to look at there are 3 parties involved... democrats, rinos, and Republican. Too many democrats and rinos that will stand in the way. |
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Posted: 6/12/2017 7:22:55 PM EDT
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Read it again. Suppressors will be over the counter like a firearm.The manufacturer will pay the 10% tax. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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No NFA or suppressor shit though.  Suppressors will be over the counter like a firearm.The manufacturer will pay the 10% tax. |
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Posted: 6/12/2017 7:23:59 PM EDT
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Nice, but still won't pass. |
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Posted: 6/12/2017 7:34:23 PM EDT
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So we have to wait until 2018 for Trump to go apeshit on the Establishment?? McCain handily won his last election,so we are stuck with him for another 5 1/2 years.And the healthcare they receive is the best in the world,so don't get your hopes up of the reaper coming............ The Reaper comes for all and do the voters in AZ are sick of him, he only won the primary because Trump helped (maybe do not quote me on that) |
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Posted: 6/12/2017 7:40:22 PM EDT
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ATF has long held that the legislative intent was for sporting purposes as existed in 1968. IDPA wasn't around yet. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Currently you are only allowed to temporarily loan a firearm to a resident of another state for a "sporting purpose". ATF has interpreted sporting purpose as traditional hunting and sport shooting (trap & skeet) purposes. They don't consider self protection, IDPA, 3gun, etc as a "sporting purpose" Here's to hoping the bullshit is over with. |
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Posted: 6/12/2017 7:41:03 PM EDT
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which committee and who is on it? I will call their offices until they know me by the sound of my voice
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Posted: 6/12/2017 7:43:57 PM EDT
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In for the surprise ass fucking. 
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Posted: 6/12/2017 7:46:12 PM EDT
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But the prices will still be $800 or more because a tube with caps on the end is damn near impossible to manufacture.
If something HPA-like passes, then current commercially off the shelf cans will be unobtanium and/or ridiculously expensive for a period until manufacturing and distribution catches up with demand. |
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Posted: 6/12/2017 7:51:29 PM EDT
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In for the surprise ass fucking.
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Posted: 6/12/2017 7:52:19 PM EDT
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Posted: 6/12/2017 7:53:56 PM EDT
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Its going to be like 86 all over again.. |
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Posted: 6/12/2017 7:54:30 PM EDT
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My bank account hopes it doesn't pass. 
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Posted: 6/12/2017 7:56:01 PM EDT
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Sportsmen's Heritage and Recreational Enhancement Act SHARE The names always make it good-Patriot Act,Affordable Care Act.......... |
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Posted: 6/12/2017 8:00:00 PM EDT
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But the prices will still be $800 or more because a tube with caps on the end is damn near impossible to manufacture. |
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Posted: 6/12/2017 8:00:52 PM EDT
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Just fired off an email to my representative Comstock. Here's to hoping us gun owners get a nice bone thrown our way. |
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Posted: 6/12/2017 8:01:27 PM EDT
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Seeing how they donate exclusively to Democrats, I would be surprised, if they don't run a multi-million-dollar, underground arms scheme already. |
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Posted: 6/12/2017 8:02:17 PM EDT
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This. There is a PA RINO calling for UBCs. We have a RINO in OR supporting secret court confiscations and indefinite purchase delays. TX RINOs kill open carry. FL RINOs do the same. On federal level, Republicans are even worse when it comes to 2A rights. Only better than commies for now. |
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Posted: 6/12/2017 8:05:59 PM EDT
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IN!
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Posted: 6/12/2017 8:14:45 PM EDT
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If you think .22 was hard to find, imagine trying to find a suppressor for sale if this passes. Prices will skyrocket and there will be a two year wait due to supply shortages.
<-- bought 3 suppressors last week (SDN-6, Ti-Rant 9M, Halcyon). Thanks Hansohn Brothers ! |
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Posted: 6/12/2017 8:29:17 PM EDT
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But the prices will still be $800 or more because a tube with caps on the end is damn near impossible to manufacture. PSA will sell a house brand, Glock will sell one, SAA will sell one, BCM will sell 6, Larue will sell a few, Ruger will sell um screwed on at the factory on 10/22s... Suppressors will be a dime a dozen in 8 months after the bill passes. I would bet a number of companies already have them prototyped out and ready to go into production. |
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Posted: 6/12/2017 8:33:51 PM EDT
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Posted: 6/12/2017 8:34:15 PM EDT
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If it means 7.62x25 comes back, I'll be a happy camper. The Ppsh will live again. Also, does it mean WW2 german rifles G43, G41 will start being importable from Russia again? |
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Posted: 6/12/2017 8:35:58 PM EDT
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with preemption, forbidding states and local governments from imposing taxes and registration. Which I don't remember being in the original. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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And with the HPA addition, reclassification of suppressors as Title I firearms. |
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Posted: 6/12/2017 8:41:19 PM EDT
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Go build something with high grade stainless, inconel and/or stellite, to extremely tight tolerances which will result in death or injury if you screw it up... and offer a lifetime warranty... with the ATF looking over your shoulder for audits all the time... and get back to us about how cheap and easy that is.
If something HPA-like passes, then current commercially off the shelf cans will be unobtanium and/or ridiculously expensive for a period until manufacturing and distribution catches up with demand. Thank you. |
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Posted: 6/12/2017 8:43:22 PM EDT
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You won't though...Economies of scale much? The sheer number of suppressors that will flood the market and the innovation involved with new brands finding their market niche will make the floor fall out of the suppressor market. Should the HPA pass we will see the market flooded with Radical Firearms-esque silencers. No thanks, I'll stick to high quality, durable, full auto rated cans with proven QA/QD systems. |
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Posted: 6/12/2017 8:44:06 PM EDT
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I believe it when i see it.
There is a full scale war on against anything like this. Never gonna happen, never...
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Posted: 6/12/2017 8:48:02 PM EDT
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Don't want to step on the HPA thread but there's a section in the SHARE Act called Title XVIII. Summary of that section: TITLE XVIII—LAWFUL PURPOSE AND SELF-DEFENSE
Sec. 1801. Short title. Sec. 1802. Elimination of authority to reclassify popular rifle ammunition as ‘‘armor piercing ammunition’’. Sec. 1803. Elimination of restrictions on importation of non-National Firearms Act firearm or ammunition that may otherwise be lawfully possessed and sold in the United States. Sec. 1804. Protection of shotguns, shotgun shells, and large caliber rifles from arbitrary classification as ‘‘destructive devices’’. Sec. 1805. Broadening of the temporary interstate transfer provision to allow temporary transfers for all lawful purposes rather than just for ‘‘sporting purposes’’. ETA: Here's a direct link to the bill (thanks jmhal) 
OH MY GOD, OH MY GOD, OH MY GOD, OH MY GOD.... CALLING THE FUCK OUT OF REPS AND SENATORS TOMORROW. |
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Posted: 6/12/2017 8:49:41 PM EDT
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And if you roll your own?? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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No NFA or suppressor shit though. Suppressors will be over the counter like a firearm.The manufacturer will pay the 10% tax. 
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Posted: 6/12/2017 8:50:57 PM EDT
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Go build something with high grade stainless, inconel and/or stellite, to extremely tight tolerances which will result in death or injury if you screw it up... and offer a lifetime warranty... with the ATF looking over your shoulder for audits all the time... and get back to us about how cheap and easy that is.
If something HPA-like passes, then current commercially off the shelf cans will be unobtanium and/or ridiculously expensive for a period until manufacturing and distribution catches up with demand. |
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Posted: 6/12/2017 8:52:58 PM EDT
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He is doing so now, 2018 will be the end result, both the primaries and elections the cucks who stood against him will be fucked, no lube and then sodomized with a cactus. The Reaper comes for all and do the voters in AZ are sick of him, he only won the primary because Trump helped (maybe do not quote me on that) Quote HistoryQuoted:
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So we have to wait until 2018 for Trump to go apeshit on the Establishment?? McCain handily won his last election,so we are stuck with him for another 5 1/2 years.And the healthcare they receive is the best in the world,so don't get your hopes up of the reaper coming............ The Reaper comes for all and do the voters in AZ are sick of him, he only won the primary because Trump helped (maybe do not quote me on that) Seems to me,that if the people of Arizona were sick of him,he would have gotten the boot,rather than a 6th term. I hope you are right on 2018,but I have serious doubts............ |
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