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Posted: 7/2/2003 7:03:05 PM EDT
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Damn. I didn't know we have a lot of comedians in ARFCOM.[:D] Way too funny. |
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Posted: 7/2/2003 7:34:30 PM EDT
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Quoted: Have you read any of his other posts lately?? This goober needs some serious mental help!! I've been on some heavy pain meds alot longer than he has & I've never felt the need to post the kinds of bullshit he's been posting. ____________________________________ The only hope you have is to accept the fact that you are already dead. And the sooner you accept that, the sooner you will be able to function as a soldier is supposed to function, without mercy, without compassion, without remorse. I too have been following this guy. Give him a break. do a search and find out what happened to him on 9/11 and the royal fucking he has been getting since. then come back and say this stuff. |
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Posted: 7/2/2003 7:37:49 PM EDT
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Quoted: [url]http://w3.gorge.net/jasong/temp/bsmeter.gif[/url] Sincerly, CH [lolabove] |
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Posted: 7/2/2003 7:45:58 PM EDT
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Quoted: Have you read any of his other posts lately?? This goober needs some serious mental help!! I've been on some heavy pain meds alot longer than he has & I've never felt the need to post the kinds of bullshit he's been posting. As a matter of fact, Marc is undergoing psychological help. I talked to him several times a week, sometimes about 9-11 and sometimes about nothing more than the weather. The next time World Trade Center Building #7 falls on you, I'll question your mental state. |
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Posted: 7/2/2003 7:55:13 PM EDT
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The only extensive long range shooting I have ever done was with an M1A off a bipod at a steel water tank on the ranch. Distance measured by the truck odometer worked out to a little over 1400 yards.
Now. We're talking a square steel tank that came off of a old deuce and a half, maybe 10'x5'x8' with a steady 5mph mph crosswind and a minor mirage. Of the 5 guys shooting (iron sights) I won with 4 hits out of 80 rounds. One other guy had three, no one else hit it at all. Once you really get out there you are going to be surprised where that bullet can go. |
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Posted: 7/2/2003 8:10:33 PM EDT
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might be a AR10t rail gun
or he was shooting on the moon |
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Posted: 7/2/2003 8:26:51 PM EDT
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I confess...
I can keep all my shots on the bullseye, around the space of a 50-cent piece with my Bushy Dissipator. At 50 yards. Indoors. With no crosswind. And taking plenty of time on the benchrest to breathe and line up and wait until everything is picture perfect before I squeeze off. That's it. Anything past that and I suck. There ya go. Panz [bounce] |
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Posted: 7/2/2003 8:36:23 PM EDT
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25 yards indoors with my 10/22
[img]http://photos.ar15.com/ImageGallery/Attachments/DownloadAttach.asp?iImageUnq=8110[/img] |
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Posted: 7/2/2003 8:49:04 PM EDT
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100 yards, 4X scope, Frankengun A1/A2 mix with 20" Bushmaster NM barrel, 10 shot groups average 3/8 across, with my pet handload. 5 shot groups are often one ragged hole. With a stronger scope, I expect this group to shrink as the crosshair intersection on the current scope is bigger than the resulting group.
CJ |
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Posted: 7/2/2003 9:09:57 PM EDT
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Quoted: Whoops, you're right. a 1 inch group at 100 yards is 1 MOA, right? Wrong. |
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Posted: 7/2/2003 9:14:50 PM EDT
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Quoted: Quoted: Whoops, you're right. a 1 inch group at 100 yards is 1 MOA, right? Wrong. The correct answer is 1.0472 inches. A circle is divided into 360 degrees, each degree is divided into 60 evenly spaced marks called minutes, and each minute is divided into 60 evenly spaced marks called seconds. To get the total minutes in a circle multiply 360 by 60 and that gives us 21600 minutes. Now divide the circumference of the circle in inches (22619.4671058465) by the minutes of a circle (21600) and we get the inches in each minute of angle at a distance of 100 yards and it is 1.0471975511966 or rounding off 1.0472 inches. |
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Posted: 7/2/2003 11:35:28 PM EDT
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Study the ballistics of a 308 before you post.
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Posted: 7/3/2003 12:04:19 AM EDT
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Perhaps this might shed a bit of light on why so many have called BS on this post....
[b][blue]OFFICIAL 1000 YARD WORLD RECORDS[/blue][/b] [b]HEAVY GUN[/b] Record Group/Score Name Date Smallest 10 Shot Group 3.151 John Voneida 1995 Highest 10 Shot Score 100 (3.151) John Voneida 1995 Smallest 6 Match Group Agg. 6.451 Wayne Linsenbach 1998 Smallest 10 Match Group Agg. 7.295 Wayne Linsenbach 1998 Highest 6 Match Score Agg. 6.667 Richard Lauver 1999 Highest 10 Match Score Agg. 94.000 Richard Lauver 1999 LIGHT GUN Record Group/Score Name Date Smallest 10 Shot Group 4.534 Joe Lesley 9/12/99 Highest 10 Shot Score 100 (5.377) John Buhay 6/23/01 Smallest 6 Match Group Agg. 7.671 Mark King 1999 Smallest 10 Match Group Agg. 9.207 Mark King 1999 Highest 6 Match Score Agg. 95.500 Rich Dillon 2002 Highest 10 Match Score Agg. 92.200 Rich Dillon 2002 From here: [url]http://www.pa1000yard.com/records.html[/url] And from here more info on recent record 1000 yards groups: [url]http://www.nc1000ydshooters.com/03m7.htm[/url] Lots of fine 1000 yard groups here at this web-site, [url]http://www.nc1000ydshooters.com/Frm_main.htm[/url], quite a few in the sub-4" range for 10 rounds, but [b]NONE[/b] in the "quarter" size, unfortunately for "edpmedic". Mike |
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Posted: 7/3/2003 12:17:19 AM EDT
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haha I didn't even think a .223 would reach out to 1600 yards
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Posted: 7/3/2003 4:26:31 AM EDT
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Quoted: I too have been following this guy. Give him a break. do a search and find out what happened to him on 9/11 and the royal fucking he has been getting since. then come back and say this stuff. ... I cannot believe this crap! (1) I don't see anywhere in this post that it identifies [u]who[/u] wrote the original "story". (2) Even if it was a decorated war hero, water walking, fireman/policeman/volunteer nurse/free USGI magazine giver/ nice guy; what the hell does that have to do with calling a tall tale teller out? (3) If this guy/gal really is one of our own, WTF are you suggesting we do? Dance around their posts like an unstable time-bomb ready to go off at any critical replies to his public posts with hurt feeling. Careful, we wouldn't want to post anything uncomfortable you know. I don't think he or she want that either. ... Am I the only one here that think this whole "give Jesus Jr. a break" crap is just wrong? A lot of people get a "Royal Fucking" in life; for the most part we learn how to deal with it and move on to the next crisis. How is this guy/gal any different from us? |
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Posted: 7/3/2003 4:53:25 AM EDT
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Winston
If you have an opinion don't hold it in. |
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Posted: 7/3/2003 4:57:46 AM EDT
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Follow the link posted and you see identification of who made it, another "one" who posts and don't know anything about the topic in question. [b]And I agree with --- we all have had bad shit to deal with in life, it gives no one a special permit to act like a asshole and get away with it.[/b]
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Posted: 7/3/2003 5:17:27 AM EDT
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Read this link for a little more insight into edp's trade center encounter...
[url]http://www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=1&f=5&t=184207&page=1[/url] Oh and by the way, when I was shooting with edp he never once complained about his back while firing off those 50 BMG rounds last year.. :) Also, it's my understanding that he'd been trying to get a medical pension due to his back long before 9/11/01, what's that tell you? |
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Posted: 7/3/2003 6:08:33 AM EDT
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Bullet, what are you saying brother? Are you calling
[bs] [bs2] [bs] |
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Posted: 7/3/2003 6:22:19 AM EDT
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coo coo for cocoa puffs
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Posted: 7/3/2003 6:53:16 AM EDT
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Quoted: Quoted: I too have been following this guy. Give him a break. do a search and find out what happened to him on 9/11 and the royal fucking he has been getting since. then come back and say this stuff. ... I cannot believe this crap! (1) I don't see anywhere in this post that it identifies [u]who[/u] wrote the original "story". (2) Even if it was a decorated war hero, water walking, fireman/policeman/volunteer nurse/free USGI magazine giver/ nice guy; what the hell does that have to do with calling a tall tale teller out? (3) If this guy/gal really is one of our own, WTF are you suggesting we do? Dance around their posts like an unstable time-bomb ready to go off at any critical replies to his public posts with hurt feeling. Careful, we wouldn't want to post anything uncomfortable you know. I don't think he or she want that either. ... Am I the only one here that think this whole "give Jesus Jr. a break" crap is just wrong? A lot of people get a "Royal Fucking" in life; for the most part we learn how to deal with it and move on to the next crisis. How is this guy/gal any different from us? How about ask him to clarify. All to often I see on this board someone post something outlandish, and everyone jumps his shit. You know, if you were to IM Epi, I bet he would not know this post was going on. If you check the original post, he has not posted anything there since then. Embellishing stories has been around since the beginning of time. The hunters and fishermen on this board can attest to it. Ask anyone what the biggest that got away and you get some sort of embellishment. I do not know why he said what he said. All I know is we got people slamming this guy and he is not even here. There are people posting here who are doing what other hunters and so forth do when one embellishes. That's fine. then there are those here who are slamming this guy and making derogatory remarks about him, what good does that do, fulfill some sort of personal satisfaction, look at me I can attack a person on the internet, who I do not know, and who is not present to respond. Winston, if you said something on this board or any other, I would say the same thing about you. We have met, I think you are a stand up guy. So all I am really saying is get all the facts before condemning. |
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Posted: 7/3/2003 6:56:45 AM EDT
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Quoted: Read this link for a little more insight into edp's trade center encounter... [url]http://www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=1&f=5&t=184207&page=1[/url] Oh and by the way, when I was shooting with edp he never once complained about his back while firing off those 50 BMG rounds last year.. :) Just because you do not notice something, does not mean it is not there. After my knee surgery, when i wnet back to work, still had a lot of pain, I did not complain. Also, it's my understanding that he'd been trying to get a medical pension due to his back long before 9/11/01, what's that tell you? Source please? |
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Posted: 7/3/2003 7:07:58 AM EDT
[#23]
Maybe he meant feet not yards...[:D]
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Posted: 7/3/2003 7:22:07 AM EDT
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BS
- Anyway 308 Match Molly Coated ammo 168gr Black hills. I was on the paper and once dialed in. A 186gr. .308 at 1000 yards is tubling, subsonic, and will keyhole if it hits the target. |
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Posted: 7/3/2003 7:49:10 AM EDT
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Quoted: Just because you do not notice something, does not mean it is not there. After my knee surgery, when i wnet back to work, still had a lot of pain, I did not complain. Source please? Heh, the source would be edp himself, he likes to talk.. :) Umm.. do you know how disability pensions work for uniformed services in NYC? I do, it's a long drawn out game and edp's been playing it long before 9/11/01. I suggest you read that link I posted. You see edp's been shooting with us for a long time. When he had appointments to see the EMS surgeons regarding his disability pension or when things weren't going well he'd break out and wear the back brace. Elsewise there was never any sign of discomfort or pain, or for that matter the back brace! |
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Posted: 7/3/2003 7:55:48 AM EDT
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Quoted: You see edp's been shooting with us for a long time. When he had appointments to see the EMS surgeons regarding his disability pension or when things weren't going well he'd break out and wear the back brace. Elsewise there was never any sign of discomfort or pain, or for that matter the back brace! DOH, that's a pretty strong statement... If what you say is true, you could be talking about a major fraud case. I know the NYC Office of the Ispector General frowns on this a great deal. |
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Posted: 7/3/2003 8:03:56 AM EDT
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Not buying that story? Well, I do have a couple bridges for sale...
Has anyone pondered that he actually did do this? He's been known to create some VERY powerful hand loads. I'm betting in the general area of 4000fps with a 168gr bullet. Anyone contact him to get his side, maybe it was a couple of typos? |
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Posted: 7/3/2003 8:13:53 AM EDT
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[b]OK guys,edpmedic's health issue is very interesting, but it is not what the thread is about.[/b]
If you feel this needs to be discussed in an open forum, open another thread. The person in the spotlight is on heavy duty painkillers and could be confused on his facts because of the effects of the prescribed medications. Nobody is saying you have to buy this most unbelievable story (shooting part),only that you have the background in mind. I don't know what to advice you about this thread, other than what I have just said. |
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Posted: 7/3/2003 8:16:03 AM EDT
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Quoted: Not buying that story? Well, I do have a couple bridges for sale... Has anyone pondered that he actually did do this? He's been known to create some VERY powerful hand loads. I'm betting in the general area of 4000fps with a 168gr bullet. Anyone contact him to get his side, maybe it was a couple of typos? |
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Posted: 7/3/2003 8:21:00 AM EDT
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4000fps out of a .308, huh? I'm thinking that getting a 168gr .30 to 4000fps would involve something like 85-90gr of powder and a 28"-30" barrel.
Hay-sus. |
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Posted: 7/3/2003 8:25:41 AM EDT
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I don't know, I really think that a 4000fps bullet out of a 16" barrel can handle a 1200 yard shot, don't you?
I guess he got his Hero Rifle back after it exploded from one of those overloaded rounds. It must be like the 6 Billion Dollar Man.....better than before! |
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Posted: 7/3/2003 8:26:11 AM EDT
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[img]http://www.tombrodowski.com/images/bs6.jpg[/img]
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Posted: 7/3/2003 9:01:27 AM EDT
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Quoted: The person in the spotlight is on heavy duty painkillers and could be confused on his facts because of the effects of the prescribed medications. Heavy-duty painkillers, confused, and...well-armed. What could possibly go wrong. |
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Posted: 7/3/2003 9:13:01 AM EDT
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Quoted: Quarter-sized groups? That's 1 MOA, isn't it? At 1200 yards? [bs2] No! 1 MOA at 1200 yds would be a little over 12 inch groups. 1 MOA is approximately 1 inch groups for every 100 yards. So he is saying he has a 1/12 MOA shooter. Right. [BS2] |
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Posted: 7/3/2003 9:19:41 AM EDT
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I want some of those drugs...
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Posted: 7/3/2003 9:44:38 AM EDT
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AND he did this while Shania Twain was sitting on his face? [bs]
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Posted: 7/3/2003 9:48:18 AM EDT
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Quoted: [b]OK guys,edpmedic's health issue is very interesting, but it is not what the thread is about.[/b] If you feel this needs to be discussed in an open forum, open another thread. The person in the spotlight is on heavy duty painkillers and could be confused on his facts because of the effects of the prescribed medications. Nobody is saying you have to buy this most unbelievable story (shooting part),only that you have the background in mind. I don't know what to advice you about this thread, other than what I have just said. You heard the boss... nothing to see here, move along... move along... |
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Posted: 7/3/2003 10:08:15 AM EDT
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Quoted: [b]OK guys,edpmedic's health issue is very interesting, but it is not what the thread is about.[/b] If you feel this needs to be discussed in an open forum, open another thread. *snip* Ed, are you confused a little, this *is* a new theard and about his stories... This ain't the SEBR thread.. :) *shrug* |
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Posted: 7/3/2003 1:44:49 PM EDT
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Jesus guys, when is it going to be enough? We all know that he is exaggerating the shot groups (greatly), and we all know he has problems....Its painfully obvious. Maybe 9/11 was just too much for him, how about that for an explanation of his behavior? Different people have different threshholds and maybe he was pushed past his.
Whether he was inside the building or 5 blocks away, I think that just being there might have been enough. Ever think of that? I am 31 years old and I havent cried since I was 12, but whenever I see video of September 11th, it reminds me of the things that I saw in the following days and weeks and I cry. I cry because it scares the shit out of me. I cry because that never should have happened. I cry for all the poor people who died just for showing up to work that day, and I cry because I am afraid that any day now, we are going to get kicked in the nuts again, maybe worse this time. Enough already, leave the fucking guy alone. Steven |
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Posted: 7/3/2003 2:15:26 PM EDT
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Quoted: Ed, are you confused a little, this *is* a new theard and about his stories... *shrug* [:)] No,I am not confused a little.This thread is about the shooting groups and that is what I am saying we should go back to. [b]This is NOT about edpmedics health condition,or when or how he got injured![/b] I am sorry if I did not communicate my thoughts well. My apologies if I got you confused! [:)] |
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Posted: 7/3/2003 2:24:36 PM EDT
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You heard the boss, back to calling
[bs] [bs2] [bs] on the the shot groups claimed... |
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Posted: 7/3/2003 2:59:20 PM EDT
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Quoted: ... All I know is we got people slamming this guy and he is not even here ... ... Why are you quoting my thread [b]eagle1911[/b]? I wasn't slamming any particular guy (or girl, doesn't make a difference to me). All I'm stating is that "if" there is a guy (or girl, kid, grandma, adolescent, wacko or sensitive individual) we need to extend "special care" to, then identify him. Hell, I don't know who to "steer clear of" on ARFCOM. ... and yeah, after nearly 5000 posts, here is my absolutely first IBTL. |
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Posted: 7/3/2003 3:04:13 PM EDT
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I talked to this guys doctor and he stated a few more of those "shock treatments" and he'll be as good as new.
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Posted: 7/4/2003 12:57:00 PM EDT
[#44]
OK OK that’s what I get for not looking at my posts for a couple of days.....4 pages not bad...
First off I AM NO FUCKEN HERO....Thanks for standing up Hi Ram anyway...Yes still on the heavy Narc...NO not LSD TYPES. to the A_HOLE who printed that. Now PASA Park...The long range with the 8 spots and the Table on the first line. I am sure it is 1,200yds to the end. I know it is past 800 at least thats what I was told. You guys could argue back and fort all you want say I am full of BS and impossible to do this or that. My advice to you is KEEP PRACTICING. I made the shots I made. I don't care what you think or don't believe. A 16" AR10T on a Bipod with a Tasco SuperSniper Scope will make it out to 1,000 or 1,200yds. Even YOU could put 3 or 5 shots within a Quarter circle. A Bushmaster 24" Varminter will make it out to 800 yds without a problem. I suggest instead of putting my abilities down. To get out there and Practice. Maybe you will also be able to do the same. Could I do it again. Maybe, I don't know since I am NOT a WORLD CLASS Shooter. Some days I hit the mark others I don't. But I try and go practice almost every day after Physical Therapy. 4 hrs a day at a 50 yd range. I shoot at little dots on paper. I figure that is what you see at 1,000 yds. True the accuracy is better and there is no having to figure Major bullet Drop or worry about Wind drift. Unless it is very windy before or when it is raining. I am trying to get out to Calverton to shoot at some real distance, but I make do with what we have. Bottom line I practice or should I say I shoot because I love to shoot instead of sit and argue about someone being able to make a shot on a computer. Well first time for everything I guess. HAVE A NICE DAY... |
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Posted: 7/4/2003 1:21:15 PM EDT
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Quoted: I made the shots I made. I don't care what you think or don't believe. A 16" AR10T on a Bipod with a Tasco SuperSniper Scope will make it out to 1,000 or 1,200yds. Even YOU could put 3 or 5 shots within a Quarter circle. Ok, 3 or 5 shots into a Quarter circle, (Assuming a Standard US Quarter, here)... Is this the closest 3-5 out of a string of 500 rounds? |
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Posted: 7/4/2003 1:24:31 PM EDT
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You should have copped out with a keyholing story.
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Posted: 7/4/2003 1:30:14 PM EDT
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Ugh.
Ugly. Ugh. |
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Posted: 7/4/2003 1:34:45 PM EDT
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Quoted: OK OK that’s what I get for not looking at my posts for a couple of days.....4 pages not bad... First off I AM NO FUCKEN HERO....Thanks for standing up Hi Ram anyway...Yes still on the heavy Narc...NO not LSD TYPES. to the A_HOLE who printed that. Now PASA Park...The long range with the 8 spots and the Table on the first line. I am sure it is 1,200yds to the end. I know it is past 800 at least thats what I was told. You guys could argue back and fort all you want say I am full of BS and impossible to do this or that. My advice to you is KEEP PRACTICING. I made the shots I made. I don't care what you think or don't believe. A 16" AR10T on a Bipod with a Tasco SuperSniper Scope will make it out to 1,000 or 1,200yds. Even YOU could put 3 or 5 shots within a Quarter circle. A Bushmaster 24" Varminter will make it out to 800 yds without a problem. I suggest instead of putting my abilities down. To get out there and Practice. Maybe you will also be able to do the same. Could I do it again. Maybe, I don't know since I am NOT a WORLD CLASS Shooter. Some days I hit the mark others I don't. But I try and go practice almost every day after Physical Therapy. 4 hrs a day at a 50 yd range. I shoot at little dots on paper. I figure that is what you see at 1,000 yds. True the accuracy is better and there is no having to figure Major bullet Drop or worry about Wind drift. Unless it is very windy before or when it is raining. I am trying to get out to Calverton to shoot at some real distance, but I make do with what we have. Bottom line I practice or should I say I shoot because I love to shoot instead of sit and argue about someone being able to make a shot on a computer. Well first time for everything I guess. HAVE A NICE DAY... Man,PLEASE quit.The BS is WAY to deep.I have had the PRIVILIGE of meeting some of the finest shooters in MY area,shot WITH them,and NONE of them are grouping like that.(and they have a better rig than yours) |
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Posted: 7/4/2003 1:47:13 PM EDT
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Quoted: OK OK that’s what I get for not looking at my posts for a couple of days.....4 pages not bad... First off I AM NO FUCKEN HERO....Thanks for standing up Hi Ram anyway...Yes still on the heavy Narc...NO not LSD TYPES. to the A_HOLE who printed that. Now PASA Park...The long range with the 8 spots and the Table on the first line. I am sure it is 1,200yds to the end. I know it is past 800 at least thats what I was told. You guys could argue back and fort all you want say I am full of BS and impossible to do this or that. My advice to you is KEEP PRACTICING. I made the shots I made. I don't care what you think or don't believe. A 16" AR10T on a Bipod with a Tasco SuperSniper Scope will make it out to 1,000 or 1,200yds. Even YOU could put 3 or 5 shots within a Quarter circle. A Bushmaster 24" Varminter will make it out to 800 yds without a problem. I suggest instead of putting my abilities down. To get out there and Practice. Maybe you will also be able to do the same. Could I do it again. Maybe, I don't know since I am NOT a WORLD CLASS Shooter. Some days I hit the mark others I don't. But I try and go practice almost every day after Physical Therapy. 4 hrs a day at a 50 yd range. I shoot at little dots on paper. I figure that is what you see at 1,000 yds. True the accuracy is better and there is no having to figure Major bullet Drop or worry about Wind drift. Unless it is very windy before or when it is raining. I am trying to get out to Calverton to shoot at some real distance, but I make do with what we have. Bottom line I practice or should I say I shoot because I love to shoot instead of sit and argue about someone being able to make a shot on a computer. Well first time for everything I guess. HAVE A NICE DAY... Here's you some .308 ballistics out to 1000 yds for you to ck skippy. [url]http://www.snipercentral.com/308.htm[/url] See how it's falling like a bowlingball after 800 yards? Do some research next time. That way the Bullshit you spewing won't be so unfrigginbelievable. And I ain't buying the "heavy meds" excuse either. I been on some type or other for 3 years up to and including morphine, Never caused me to be delusional. You're not the only one with problems. Hell, you ain't even close to the worst that can happen. |
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Posted: 7/4/2003 1:53:03 PM EDT
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i think i used to work with this guy. once killed a rattler here in NC with 144 buttons on it. True! Really! [toilet]
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