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The second guy that crashed had a come to jesus moment when he jumped out of the way of the semi truck.
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To be fair, the white supermoto rider behind the impact vehicle didn't have many good options. Swerve right and hit his buddy who is tumbling on the ground, swerve left and possibly hit a semi cab, go straight and right into the back of the sliding motorcycle. They both lived so it was a good choice but damn he bailed on the bike and threw himself off in the path of the semi... maybe not what I would have done .
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He made a ruff landing ZING !!!! |
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That dog wasn't big enough to cause that. The second guy didn't hit anything and he flipped. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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they both grabbed a shit ton of front brake and crashed. Yeah! It can't possibly be because the bike hit the dog at all! That dog wasn't big enough to cause that. The second guy didn't hit anything and he flipped. The second guy didn't flip or swerve. Looked to me like he felt there was no where to go so he laid his bike down and took his chances on the slide. |
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from the pics above... dog turned the front wheel for him
no saving that surprised second guy didn't die of a heart attack looking face first at that 18 wheeler |
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The second guy didn't flip or swerve. He felt he had no where to go so he laid his bike down and took his chances on the slide. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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they both grabbed a shit ton of front brake and crashed. Yeah! It can't possibly be because the bike hit the dog at all! That dog wasn't big enough to cause that. The second guy didn't hit anything and he flipped. The second guy didn't flip or swerve. He felt he had no where to go so he laid his bike down and took his chances on the slide. Given the coefficient of friction of rubber vs nylon, I don't care if it's static or kinetic, I'm going to place my bets on rubber. |
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The second guy didn't flip or swerve. He felt he had no where to go so he laid his bike down and took his chances on the slide. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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they both grabbed a shit ton of front brake and crashed. Yeah! It can't possibly be because the bike hit the dog at all! That dog wasn't big enough to cause that. The second guy didn't hit anything and he flipped. The second guy didn't flip or swerve. He felt he had no where to go so he laid his bike down and took his chances on the slide. Didn't work out so well, he slid straight in the path of the semi. He moved outta the way real fast. |
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To be fair, the white supermoto rider behind the impact vehicle didn't have many good options. Swerve right and hit his buddy who is tumbling on the ground, swerve left and possibly hit a semi cab, go straight and right into the back of the sliding motorcycle. They both lived so it was a good choice but damn he bailed on the bike and threw himself off in the path of the semi... maybe not what I would have done . Not a fun scenario to find yourself in. View Quote Another reason why riding all bunched up in "packs" like that is dumb. |
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The guy leaping out of the way of the oncoming semi tractor was good. http://s3.postimg.org/xp0744po3/Capture.jpg View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
The guy leaping out of the way of the oncoming semi tractor was good. http://s3.postimg.org/xp0744po3/Capture.jpg Very much so, especially when you review the recording and see the braking skid marks from said truck straddle the bike he was on. He is lucky. Observe how in the aftermath said truck is nowhere apparent. You would think he would stop. |
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^This. And these guys weren't speeding, stunting, etc. Riding bunched up is foolish. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Another reason why riding all bunched up in "packs" like that is dumb. ^This. And these guys weren't speeding, stunting, etc. Riding bunched up is foolish. Hell, if I liked socializing, I wouldn't have bought a motorcycle in the first place. |
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One of the many reasons that I don't ride anymore. Too many reasons for you to go down. Last summer a buddy of mine lent me one of his bikes. We drove around the country for a little over an hour. I spent at least 45 minutes of that ride looking for animals, cars, etc. Only really enjoyed about 15 minutes of the ride. Don't need to do that any time soon again.
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Bad deal but appears most of them seem I'll equipped to deal with a stressful situation. Clam the fuck down...
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they both grabbed a shit ton of front brake and crashed. Exactly. A LOT of people don't use their rear brakes properly because the front is so effective. Those rear brakes keep you from going over like these guys. Is that true? Can you explain how your rear brake helps you here? Serious question? |
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Stupid dog should learn to use the crosswalk! Who's dog is that!~! Ain't they supposed to ride staggered for just this kinda reason? |
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Is that guy wearing a full face Lord of the Rings goblin battle helmet or what? Looks like the breed of peace almost got two more Icon Alliance, very nice helmet |
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they both grabbed a shit ton of front brake and crashed. Exactly. A LOT of people don't use their rear brakes properly because the front is so effective. Those rear brakes keep you from going over like these guys. Is that true? Can you explain how your rear brake helps you here? Serious question? Very serious. I assume your incredulity means you have a response. I'm listening if you do. |
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another video from one of the motorcycles in the back http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=96f_1460904727 View Quote I may have to retract what I said about them not speeding. The guy on the supermoto who nearly got the worst of it looked to be going noticeably faster than the rest, and found out why braking on paint sucks. |
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another video from one of the motorcycles in the back http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=96f_1460904727 View Quote 2nd guy's reflexes were pretty solid after his mary lou retton moment. |
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they both grabbed a shit ton of front brake and crashed. Exactly. A LOT of people don't use their rear brakes properly because the front is so effective. Those rear brakes keep you from going over like these guys. Is that true? Can you explain how your rear brake helps you here? Serious question? Very serious. I assume your incredulity means you have a response. I'm listening if you do. A supermoto bike is very light, and the rider's mass is a greater part of the breaking dynamics. You have to be more careful in balancing your braking to ensure the most effective stop possible than on a heavier bike. And, max breaking on paint is a very bad idea. This rider had a step change in friction coefficients going from paint to asphalt, and it caused an amazing high side. This was a set up for failure. |
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2nd guy's reflexes were pretty solid after his mary lou retton moment. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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another video from one of the motorcycles in the back http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=96f_1460904727 2nd guy's reflexes were pretty solid after his mary lou retton moment. Astounding reflexes. |
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another video from one of the motorcycles in the back http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=96f_1460904727 View Quote I want to see that guy's helmet cam! |
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And don't give it back for 6 months Good holster though.. stayed secure View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Wonder if the rider is a member. He's packing. What's the procedure for when emt's come and he's packing? How is his pistol secured? And don't give it back for 6 months Good holster though.. stayed secure Its a Fobus |
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they both grabbed a shit ton of front brake and crashed. Exactly. A LOT of people don't use their rear brakes properly because the front is so effective. Those rear brakes keep you from going over like these guys. Is that true? Can you explain how your rear brake helps you here? Serious question? Very serious. I assume your incredulity means you have a response. I'm listening if you do. Just making sure I don't give a serious response to a comment meant as a joke. The front brake is a magnificent device, great stopping power. But on a motorcycle there a point at which you can apply too much front brake and this brings the rear wheel off the ground. When this happens a few things could go down; Flip over the handlebars similar to the video, loose control because the gyroscopic force of both wheels are now janky as hell, or you do a graceful "stoppie". Applying the rear brake puts down force on the rear. You can also apply to much rear brake and slide. There's a finesse to stopping quickly to say the least. |
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another video from one of the motorcycles in the back http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=96f_1460904727 I want to see that guy's helmet cam! https://j.gifs.com/J6KOWy.gif |
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Wonder if the rider is a member. He's packing. What's the procedure for when emt's come and he's packing? How is his pistol secured? If I show up and you're definitely going to the hospital or on a helicopter ride, I'll take it off, safe direction and secure it (slide locked back or cylinder out, mag out) and turn it over to Sheriff/PD/HP (whoever is working the wreck). If it's legal (guy with a permit, decent holster, clues to tell me it's legally carried) they usually tell me they have it and it's not a big deal, the thugs and dope dealers don't say anything, I find it and they either immediately get hooked up or get charges added. In the latter case, it's not unusual to find dope, pipes, and or knots of cash along with it. If you're wearing an ankle bracelet I'm taking your gun and you ain't getting it back, I don't care how many times you call me a white motherfucker. If you're not injured or refuse service I cannot legally disarm you if youre permitted to carry unless you want in my truck.(I can disarm people who aren't supposed to be carrying, do it alot believe it or not). |
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R6 guy never had a chance, he couldn't avoid the dog.
Supermoto guy panic braked himself into a wreck, but it's impossible to know if he could have avoided crashing even if he hadn't. |
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Couple of years ago I was behind a motorcycle on the highway. He ran over a coyote and stayed up. I stopped to see if he was okay, he was and bike wasn't damaged. However, he was freaking out.. shaking and such. He had just gotten his motorcycle endorsement and was scared shitless. We were both heading to the same town so we loaded his bike in the back of my truck.
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R6 guy never had a chance, he couldn't avoid the dog. Supermoto guy panic braked himself into a wreck, but it's impossible to know if he could have avoided crashing even if he hadn't. View Quote If I was in that situation all I would've seen was my buddy and his bike laid out on the road in front of me. Run over your buddy, t-bone his bike or take a slide. I would've took the slide as well. That's why I have frame sliders. |
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If I was in that situation all I would've seen was my buddy and his bike laid out on the road in front of me. Run over your buddy, t-bone his bike or take a slide. I would've took the slide as well. That's why I have frame sliders. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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R6 guy never had a chance, he couldn't avoid the dog. Supermoto guy panic braked himself into a wreck, but it's impossible to know if he could have avoided crashing even if he hadn't. If I was in that situation all I would've seen was my buddy and his bike laid out on the road in front of me. Run over your buddy, t-bone his bike or take a slide. I would've took the slide as well. That's why I have frame sliders. There were no real good choices to take. |
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R6 guy never had a chance, he couldn't avoid the dog. Supermoto guy panic braked himself into a wreck, but it's impossible to know if he could have avoided crashing even if he hadn't. If I was in that situation all I would've seen was my buddy and his bike laid out on the road in front of me. Run over your buddy, t-bone his bike or take a slide. I would've took the slide as well. That's why I have frame sliders. There were no real good choices to take. True, lesser of two evils. I can critique the video till the cows come home but at the end of the day I am just glad it wasn't me and that no one was a speed bump for that semi. |
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Is it wrong that I think the most interesting part is the COE?
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yes. if your animal is in the road, and it causes a accident, your libel for it. just as car driver is NOT libel for running over your animal. i had a thread about running over my neighbors dog. a arfcommer who is a insurance adjuster, said he had a client who hit a dog on a new harley, fucked the rider and passenger up really bad... dog owner comes out and is screaming about his dead dog... motorcycle rider had to call 911 on his own for a ambulance. dog owner called insurance wanting them to buy him a new dog..... insurance adjuster ended up making home owners insurance buy new motorcycle, and pay medical injuries. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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"Who's dog is that?" Can you sue a dog owner for that in the country? yes. if your animal is in the road, and it causes a accident, your libel for it. just as car driver is NOT libel for running over your animal. i had a thread about running over my neighbors dog. a arfcommer who is a insurance adjuster, said he had a client who hit a dog on a new harley, fucked the rider and passenger up really bad... dog owner comes out and is screaming about his dead dog... motorcycle rider had to call 911 on his own for a ambulance. dog owner called insurance wanting them to buy him a new dog..... insurance adjuster ended up making home owners insurance buy new motorcycle, and pay medical injuries. I love a happy ending |
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Just making sure I don't give a serious response to a comment meant as a joke. The front brake is a magnificent device, great stopping power. But on a motorcycle there a point at which you can apply too much front brake and this brings the rear wheel off the ground. When this happens a few things could go down; Flip over the handlebars similar to the video, loose control because the gyroscopic force of both wheels are now janky as hell, or you do a graceful "stoppie". Applying the rear brake puts down force on the rear. You can also apply to much rear brake and slide. There's a finesse to stopping quickly to say the least. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Exactly. A LOT of people don't use their rear brakes properly because the front is so effective. Those rear brakes keep you from going over like these guys. Is that true? Can you explain how your rear brake helps you here? Serious question? Very serious. I assume your incredulity means you have a response. I'm listening if you do. Just making sure I don't give a serious response to a comment meant as a joke. The front brake is a magnificent device, great stopping power. But on a motorcycle there a point at which you can apply too much front brake and this brings the rear wheel off the ground. When this happens a few things could go down; Flip over the handlebars similar to the video, loose control because the gyroscopic force of both wheels are now janky as hell, or you do a graceful "stoppie". Applying the rear brake puts down force on the rear. You can also apply to much rear brake and slide. There's a finesse to stopping quickly to say the least. Here's the way it was explained to me, in a few different instances. If you're putting enough into the front brake, the corresponding drastic change in weight distribution to the front, and the resulting significantly reduced weight on the rear means no significant braking or control from that tire. The best you can do is quickly squeeze as much front brake as the conditions and your skill will allow. This is a panic stop on public roads. Any rider in this situation will serve his interests best by forgetting about the rear brake and correctly use as much front as you can. Honestly, looking at the vid again, the rider that hit the dog was toast no matter what. No time to do much at all before impact. |
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they both grabbed a shit ton of front brake and crashed. Exactly. A LOT of people don't use their rear brakes properly because the front is so effective. Those rear brakes keep you from going over like these guys. Is that true? Can you explain how your rear brake helps you here? Front brake, uplift on rear wheel. Rear brake, downthrust on front wheel. Simple dymanics. Works on bicycles, too. I used to practice panic stops by hitting my rear brake a lite quicker than my front. |
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