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Posted: 4/17/2016 6:40:25 PM EDT
Who's more hardcore?
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How the hell would I know? They've always have come across as pretty hard core
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Fpni.
Mr. Benavides probably had the biggest set of balls, though. |
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All are badasses. Modern guys have better training and logistics, but Vietnam era gets a slight edge because they lack those things and need to be more independent.
Of course, I know nothing. Just my opinion. . |
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I got tip my hat to the Vietnam era. Those guys pioneered everything that is being done today without GPS and other high tech gadgetry.
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Didn't you just ask me that? Given your location and pic, I'm gonna guess you're associated with them in someway. Sorry if I offend, It's just a question. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Are you either OP? Didn't you just ask me that? Given your location and pic, I'm gonna guess you're associated with them in someway. Sorry if I offend, It's just a question. No offense, just wondering. |
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As far as I know, none of the current crop have released hit records. Advantage: Vietnam vintage.
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High school level wannabe thread.
Green Berets don't really do the things. They mostly teach the things to indigenous "freedom fighters." You are probably confusing them with Delta. |
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High school level wannabe thread. Green Berets don't really do the things. They mostly teach the things to indigenous "freedom fighters." You are probably confusing them with Delta. What if it is OJT? Shhhhhh |
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High school level wannabe thread. Green Berets don't really do the things. They mostly teach the things to indigenous "freedom fighters." You are probably confusing them with Delta. View Quote Yeah all those green berets that have been killed in Afghanistan died happily in their sleep, content after a long day of teaching in the classroom. I'm pretty sure it was the same in Vietnam. |
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How the hell would I know? They've always have come across as pretty hard core . View Quote 6th Infantry Unity is Strength. I hate to say it but VN just slightly in my opinion. However both are top of the line. Oh by the way the Chopper pilot who brought MSG Benavidez team in is a close friend of mine. Warrant Officer Radke. Our son's were team mates in H S. |
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I would say old school sog guys, since they had a far less retarded roe and weren't in the spotlight all of the time. Granted the gwot sog guys have cooler tech and the benefit of lessons learned from the Vietnam guys I would go with the older ones since they didn't depend on tech as much.
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While both were badasses modern ones would kick the shit out of the old guys.
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Modern-day Special Forces soldiers are forged in the fires which are EO and SHARP classes.
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Quoted: Direct Action is one of SF's primary missions. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: High school level wannabe thread. Green Berets don't really do the things. They mostly teach the things to indigenous "freedom fighters." You are probably confusing them with Delta. Direct Action is one of SF's primary missions. I have a good friend who is retired Green Beret. That doesn't make me an expert but based on what he has said both of these things are true. He was definitely trained in direct action however from what he has said they were trained to infiltrate and train/equip locals hostile to our enemy. |
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Equal equipment I'm not surel. Amphetamines and morphine vs NOXplode is a tough call. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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While both were badasses modern ones would kick the shit out of the old guys. Equal equipment I'm not surel. Amphetamines and morphine vs NOXplode is a tough call. Modern operators fueled by ripits, C4, and Jacked3D will crush those guys |
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I have a good friend who is retired Green Beret. That doesn't make me an expert but based on what he has said both of these things are true. He was definitely trained in direct action however from what he has said they were trained to infiltrate and train/equip locals hostile to our enemy. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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High school level wannabe thread. Green Berets don't really do the things. They mostly teach the things to indigenous "freedom fighters." You are probably confusing them with Delta. Direct Action is one of SF's primary missions. I have a good friend who is retired Green Beret. That doesn't make me an expert but based on what he has said both of these things are true. He was definitely trained in direct action however from what he has said they were trained to infiltrate and train/equip locals hostile to our enemy. Yeah, UW is one them too. Ain't really a secret |
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I always thought of Green Berets as the men that teach people that shit in their drinking water how to use a sand table.
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I am sure that there are differences in trained tactics and technology, but in both cases they are not normal soldiers. They are and have always been hand picked from the best of the best, and of those picked, most don't make the grade. The training process is designed, and has always been designed to root out weaknesses and failings that would be troublesome in the field.
My old man was a VN era Greent Beret, back then they had the selection process that was similar to what they use today, but then they required language skills for most potential recruits prior to being selected, for my dad two years of Spanish in high school, and the ability to pass a DLAB was good enough, barely. I think they have reduced the foreign language requirement, but I doubt that has had a huge impact as they have improved their ability to teach languages. |
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Quoted: It's funny, because it's true. Wait until we have women's Green Berets, then they'll really be badass. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Modern-day Special Forces soldiers are forged in the fires which are EO and SHARP classes. It's funny, because it's true. Wait until we have women's Green Berets, then they'll really be badass. |
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Green Berets, 5 years from now, when they are mostly women. diversity is our strength
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High school level wannabe thread. Green Berets don't really do the things. They mostly teach the things to indigenous "freedom fighters." You are probably confusing them with Delta. Direct Action is one of SF's primary missions. Now it is, and in doing so they traded away more of their core competency, which was FID. Only so much time in the day... |
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Quoted: While both were badasses modern ones would kick the shit out of the old guys. View Quote |
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Read the MACV/SOG book written by John Plaster. Some of the most hardcore soldiers ever to walk the earth. They walked into certain death, did incredible things and kicked some serious ass. They pretty much pioneered SF as we know it. Straight bad MFers.
Modern SF are some of the best fighters in the world, and I have the utmost respect for these warriors. I wouldn't say one group is better than the other. All are heroes. |
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Yep. Just wait until an ODA is being lead by a Female and she is having to deal with her local counter-part who just so happens to be a moslem man. Thats when their training will really kick in. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Modern-day Special Forces soldiers are forged in the fires which are EO and SHARP classes. It's funny, because it's true. Wait until we have women's Green Berets, then they'll really be badass. Part of the pre-deployment checklist will include a few surgeries to fix that silly gender problem. |
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Fighting in desert is very different from fighting in canopy jungle.
This is not a worthy adversary. |
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Until you have talked to (at length) one who was there in VN,,,STFU. My father served with a group of em for a year in the jungle, shit he has told me made my spine tingle. To be fair I did not myself have the honor to serve in Iraq/AFG as I was already out..(Cold Warrior) So I also should STFU as I don't know what those guys went through either....but to say one would easily outdo the other is asinine.
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