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Posted: 1/22/2021 9:30:08 PM EDT
[Last Edit: WIC]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Justabulletaway: I have that Cruwear Shaman too. I guess Cruwear is similar to 3V or 4V. Somewhere in the middle maybe. Which one?  Yeah, Cruwear is right there with 4V. Though IIRC, tougher and harder to sharpen. Cruwear should be more well rounded like Elmax. Which is still most superior. Elmax all the things! |
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Posted: 1/22/2021 9:31:02 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MaxxII: I've never seen you as a fan boi of one manufacturer or another. You've been pretty consistent and even in your viewpoints regarding things as long as I've been in this thread. You're pretty on point with this post too. By way of comparison, here is my 21 year old Commander.EDC'd while bartending and working EMS. It was used to cut all sorts of stuff. Now relegated to the ZTbagOknives. I really need to clean it and send it into Emerson. I'm not so good with sharpening recurved blades, and it could use it. It's been used hard over the years, and no chipping and the label is still visible. Granted I never wiped it down with a scotch brite pad, but it's been worn by use. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/199644/Commander_3-1791426.jpg I wonder if they turn up the etching due to the coating. Recurves can be a pain in the ass to sharpen depending OK on the curves size compared to the size of the abrasive |
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Posted: 1/22/2021 9:36:22 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By WICOUNSEL: Why nervous? Daughter nearby ready to finish the job? Blue liners? Lets see a spine shot of that one. She’s probably waiting to finish the job as soon as she’s a teen.  Attached File |
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Posted: 1/22/2021 9:37:21 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By it20: Reinforced "fiberglass" friday🤣 https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/333476/20210122_105256_jpg-1791449.JPG Haha. There was a thread elswhere a while where a guy was trying to get recommendations on those as well as ideas on where to hide multiple of them on his body to go to the airport because he's worried about the flight plus drive to the hotel where he's mailing a bunch of knives ahead of time. I'm not sure if it was trolling but it was hilarious. He was pondering paying a security guard to frisk him after he positions his tools in various places. |
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Posted: 1/22/2021 9:41:34 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By GnarlyDood: She’s probably waiting to finish the job as soon as she’s a teen. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/486084/99775AC0-62BC-4DDA-B55F-DC4FA6FE3F4C_jpe-1792184.JPG ooohhh, and red. I like! |
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Posted: 1/22/2021 9:46:18 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Star_Scream: I wonder if they turn up the etching due to the coating. Recurves can be a pain in the ass to sharpen depending OK on the curves size compared to the size of the abrasive Actually quite the opposite. It takes way more power to mark a bare steel than it does to remove a coating on a black blade. What Emerson is doing on their bare steels is using a marking compound to make up for using a lower wattage laser. My guess is they have a "trophy shop" engraver instead of a high end laser. The two best laser markings I've seen is from Hinderer and Lionsteel. These two makers are using top notch lasers. We have an Epilog CO2 and a Teleis Fiber laser at work. We use them to mark anodized parts. Neither of them can do bare steel without the marking compound either. So I know a little about laser marking. That's one reason I get a little miffed about my Emerson. |
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Posted: 1/22/2021 9:49:46 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By WICOUNSEL: ooohhh, and red. I like! Agreed. I keep trying to figure out which one I like more and it’s always the one that’s in my hand. |
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Posted: 1/22/2021 9:51:54 PM EDT
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Posted: 1/22/2021 9:52:25 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Justabulletaway: Yes, my 4V PM2 is one of my favorites. It has held up well so far. Matter of fact, I have two of them. Ones still NIB. I'm not ready to proclaim it champion just yet, but so far, 4V is holding its own for toughness and edge retention. That something you give up is corrosion resistance, which doesn't matter so much with DLC blades. I have been looking at some of the Bradford fixed blades in 3V. Might be worth a try. The Bradford Guardians are something I've been looking at forever just never bought one. |
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Posted: 1/22/2021 9:54:11 PM EDT
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Posted: 1/22/2021 9:55:53 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By it20: I am fine with that. Amazing concert!!!!!!! Edit: RIP Lemmy Lemmy was a hellraiser for sure but seemed like a cool guy. I was listening to the Motorhead cover album the other day on my ride a lot of fun and helped me not think about being cold |
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Posted: 1/22/2021 9:56:10 PM EDT
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Anyone know where I can find an all black Microtech LUDT? Out of stock everywhere.
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Posted: 1/22/2021 9:57:28 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SecretSquirell: Fuck yeah Friday. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/204916/ogetvzb7-1791672.jpg I love all the work pics. My work is lame and doesn't allow pictures or knives. |
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Posted: 1/22/2021 9:58:27 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Justabulletaway: OK. 4V Friday it is. https://i.imgur.com/itiwSZh.jpg I keep forgetting I have a 4V Manix still sitting in the box as well as another one of these for backup. St. Nick's needs to hurry up and do a Military. I need some 4v in my life. |
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Posted: 1/22/2021 10:00:39 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By evo7011: Anyone know where I can find an all black Microtech LUDT? Out of stock everywhere. Probably have to go to the secondary or wait for a new batch to come around. |
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Posted: 1/22/2021 10:01:30 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Justabulletaway: Probably have to go to the secondary or wait for a new batch to come around.  (sad stabby noises)
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Posted: 1/22/2021 10:02:11 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By WICOUNSEL: Which one? https://i.imgur.com/ZYCTY4f.jpg Yeah, Cruwear is right there with 4V. Though IIRC, tougher and harder to sharpen. Cruwear should be more well rounded like Elmax. Which is still most superior. Elmax all the things! Supposedly he's going to update the chart soon with some new steels. |
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Posted: 1/22/2021 10:04:51 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By GnarlyDood: Agreed. I keep trying to figure out which one I like more and it’s always the one that’s in my hand. Well, except that one time. |
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Posted: 1/22/2021 10:07:32 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By rbb2: Well, except that one time. True...
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Posted: 1/22/2021 10:10:36 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By GnarlyDood: She’s probably waiting to finish the job as soon as she’s a teen. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/486084/99775AC0-62BC-4DDA-B55F-DC4FA6FE3F4C_jpe-1792184.JPG I like the liner choices |
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Posted: 1/22/2021 10:10:48 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By GnarlyDood: True... Glad to hear it's healing up well. Lots of nerves and ligaments right up by the surface in the hands. |
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Posted: 1/22/2021 10:15:19 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Star_Scream: I love all the work pics. My work is lame and doesn't allow pictures or knives. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Star_Scream: Originally Posted By SecretSquirell: Fuck yeah Friday. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/204916/ogetvzb7-1791672.jpg I love all the work pics. My work is lame and doesn't allow pictures or knives. As long we're not fucking off and not getting things done, no one cares. |
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Posted: 1/22/2021 10:23:51 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Star_Scream: I like the liner choices Gotta give those props to Kuraki. I let him have the reigns but he done good. |
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Posted: 1/22/2021 10:25:34 PM EDT
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Posted: 1/22/2021 10:25:44 PM EDT
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I am a metal head but never did much with motorhead, then awhile back I went to a show. Damn damn damn I had been missing out. Those three men made some noise. After the three opening acts were done they came out. Smaller venue, I was in back by the soundboard, not really a mosh pit guy. They played a couple of songs and really surprised me. Then they introduced themselves and said they play Rock N Roll and didn't think it was loud enough and to turn it up. My clothes were moving and I feel that was the turning point in my deafness 🤪
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Posted: 1/22/2021 10:26:16 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By rbb2: Glad to hear it's healing up well. Lots of nerves and ligaments right up by the surface in the hands. Yep. That poor little pinky. I closed a pocket knife on it years ago on the top side and got it stitched up as well. There’s just not a lot of meat between the outside world and bone on fingers. |
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Posted: 1/22/2021 10:27:15 PM EDT
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Posted: 1/22/2021 10:27:45 PM EDT
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Posted: 1/22/2021 10:32:57 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By it20: I am a metal head but never did much with motorhead, then awhile back I went to a show. Damn damn damn I had been missing out. Those three men made some noise. After the three opening acts were done they came out. Smaller venue, I was in back by the soundboard, not really a mosh pit guy. They played a couple of songs and really surprised me. Then they introduced themselves and said they play Rock N Roll and didn't think it was loud enough and to turn it up. My clothes were moving and I feel that was the turning point in my deafness 🤪 I never saw Motorhead but I was at this Metallica concert when he came onstage and did a couple of songs with them. It was pretty awesome.  Lemmy & Metallica in Nashville 2009 |
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Posted: 1/22/2021 10:43:32 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By it20: I am a metal head but never did much with motorhead, then awhile back I went to a show. Damn damn damn I had been missing out. Those three men made some noise. After the three opening acts were done they came out. Smaller venue, I was in back by the soundboard, not really a mosh pit guy. They played a couple of songs and really surprised me. Then they introduced themselves and said they play Rock N Roll and didn't think it was loud enough and to turn it up. My clothes were moving and I feel that was the turning point in my deafness 🤪 Ace Of Spades will never not get cranked when it comes on. 
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Posted: 1/22/2021 10:45:15 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By GnarlyDood: Yep. That poor little pinky. I closed a pocket knife on it years ago on the top side and got it stitched up as well. There’s just not a lot of meat between the outside world and bone on fingers. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By GnarlyDood: Originally Posted By rbb2: Glad to hear it's healing up well. Lots of nerves and ligaments right up by the surface in the hands. Yep. That poor little pinky. I closed a pocket knife on it years ago on the top side and got it stitched up as well. There’s just not a lot of meat between the outside world and bone on fingers. I ran a butter knife (yes, you read that right) through my thumb that nearly hit the bone and stopped on the nail. 
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Posted: 1/22/2021 10:52:02 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SecretSquirell: Ace Of Spades will never not get cranked when it comes on. I'm more of an Overkill fan. That double bass though...  Overkill - Motorhead |
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Posted: 1/22/2021 10:55:24 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By it20: Meager fixed blade contribution and dinner https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/333476/20210122_200011_jpg-1792281.JPG what happened here? |
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Posted: 1/22/2021 10:55:45 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By cubie: https://i.imgur.com/hO3vD9Q.jpg we don't usually allow recycling |
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Posted: 1/22/2021 10:56:28 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By rbb2: https://i.imgur.com/KaKoCGy.jpg I thought I was getting Chinese tonight
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Posted: 1/22/2021 10:57:22 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Justabulletaway: Actually quite the opposite. It takes way more power to mark a bare steel than it does to remove a coating on a black blade. What Emerson is doing on their bare steels is using a marking compound to make up for using a lower wattage laser. My guess is they have a "trophy shop" engraver instead of a high end laser. The two best laser markings I've seen is from Hinderer and Lionsteel. These two makers are using top notch lasers. We have an Epilog CO2 and a Teleis Fiber laser at work. We use them to mark anodized parts. Neither of them can do bare steel without the marking compound either. So I know a little about laser marking. That's one reason I get a little miffed about my Emerson. Ohh. I was assuming they'd mark the blade through the coating. Oof. |
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Posted: 1/22/2021 10:57:54 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By WICOUNSEL: Yeah, we haven't heard enough about that one. In theory, 4V should be pretty ideal for a hard use folder, aside from maybe more difficult sharpening. Though with diamonds nothing is too terrible. Even without the DLC, if it is like 3V, the higher vanadium content should go a long way to staving off corrosion. I have seen some meat patina on a few of my 3V knives, but no corrosion, at least until I got my most recent CPK. It had been with a collector, so unused, but it had picked up some minor rust under the scales along the edge. Came off with baking soda. Same with the meat patina, came right off with baking soda, but I kinda liked the meat patina. Cool colors. But other than that, never seen rust on any of my 3V unlike other tool steels which seem to rust magnets for me. (Seriously M4, why'd you have to do me like that? I wanted to love you so badly.) Do you know if Spyderco does any uncoated 4V? Now I am wondering how it holds up corrosion wise. Don't think I have heard anything yet. Don't know anyone else using it. I've looked at the Bradford Guardian 3 before myself. Great size and Steel (M390) for that price. The Ranier Fastpak looks sweet too. Still haven't grabbed either for the same reason; they wouldn't displace my Gulsos for carry and not really display items for my case. But I appreciate a lot about them. Don't think I knew Bradford was doing 3V now. Didn't that Gulso guy say he was going to do his Forester knife in 4V? Actually, didn't he already make a prototype in 4V last year? We should get him in here. 3V and 4V I haven't played with but for incredible toughness they fit the bill. Being able to use a thinner edge and still use it hard in a way offsets edge retention. 4V sounds to be close to ideal with higher edge retention vs lower toughness and corrosion resistance vs 3V. But the elephant in the room is 10V, which has the edge retention of s90v and the toughness of Elmax 
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Posted: 1/22/2021 10:59:18 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By evo7011: (sad stabby noises)You do a lot of taking. Have you posted any pics to give back? Microtech runs them in batches. Follow them on IG or FB, maybe they will announce. Sign up for notice on all the websites that carry them and have a notice feature. |
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Posted: 1/22/2021 10:59:55 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Star_Scream: Supposedly he's going to update the chart soon with some new steels. What more can there possibly be? |
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Posted: 1/22/2021 11:01:17 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By GnarlyDood: And then immediately spent my money on it’s bigger brother https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/486084/AF71BAAE-E19C-47C8-88AB-EE3E12E46CD4_jpe-1792225.JPG regular size ultratech is the only one worth a damn |
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Posted: 1/22/2021 11:05:19 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By WICOUNSEL: what happened here? Chopped ham, Muenster, bread with Parmigiano cheese, scalloped potatoes. Got home from work wanted to nap, girlfriend had a cousin pass, and the kids wanted food. Again I love the blade style, haven't really worked the knife much. |
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Posted: 1/22/2021 11:06:05 PM EDT
[Last Edit: ChicagoFoodie]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By WICOUNSEL: You do a lot of taking. Have you posted any pics to give back? Microtech runs them in batches. Follow them on IG or FB, maybe they will announce. Sign up for notice on all the websites that carry them and have a notice feature. Fair enough. I only have a few knives currently, an old Benchmade from 2006, Microtech ultratech, and a Red Meat Steel rib tickler. I'll start posting pics in the near future, promise. 
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Posted: 1/22/2021 11:06:29 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SecretSquirell: I ran a butter knife (yes, you read that right) through my thumb that nearly hit the bone and stopped on the nail. That would take some real effort. |
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Posted: 1/22/2021 11:09:26 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By sywagon: I've been looking at the Bradfords ancillary to trying to find a nice wharncliffe blank to make a knife for my dad. Not a lot of options coming up there (1095, Alabama Damascus, little Brisa in one of the Scandi steels). Anyways, the Bradfords look nice and I don't have a single acid wash type finish in spite of thinking it looks awesome. 3V and 4V I haven't played with but for incredible toughness they fit the bill. Being able to use a thinner edge and still use it hard in a way offsets edge retention. 4V sounds to be close to ideal with higher edge retention vs lower toughness and corrosion resistance vs 3V. But the elephant in the room is 10V, which has the edge retention of s90v and the toughness of Elmax Will your dad be able to sharpen any of those? |
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Posted: 1/22/2021 11:10:25 PM EDT
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How about some carbide edged
 
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Posted: 1/22/2021 11:10:32 PM EDT
[Last Edit: it20]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By WICOUNSEL: what happened here? Whisky....Bison Ridge CRKT Dragon.. .I love the blade style and it feels good in the hand. I haven't used it much. Edit.....kind of a double post |
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Posted: 1/22/2021 11:11:24 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By evo7011: Fair enough. I only have a few knives currently, an old Benchmade from 2006, Microtech ultratech, and a Red Meat Steel rib tickler. I'll start posting pics in the near future, promise. https://i.imgur.com/QixQMPt.jpg?1 Nice. Don't bother with the Bitchmade though. |
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Posted: 1/22/2021 11:12:28 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By GnarlyDood: I spent my Christmas money on a new letter opener. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/486084/4E610AAB-494B-49DF-BD38-6B22BFCC91CC_jpe-1792220.JPG I think the translucent scales look pretty neat. Especially on an auto |
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Posted: 1/22/2021 11:12:45 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By GnarlyDood: And then immediately spent my money on it’s bigger brother https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/486084/AF71BAAE-E19C-47C8-88AB-EE3E12E46CD4_jpe-1792225.JPG Uh oh. |
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Posted: 1/22/2021 11:13:16 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By WICOUNSEL: regular size ultratech is the only one worth a damn I just got mine and it's much smaller than I expected. I don't see ever wanting one of the even smaller ones. I am probably going to try to trade it for a tanto, though. But I REALLY like the blue. 
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