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Posted: 3/18/2016 12:29:27 PM EDT
If you've seen Soaked In Bleach, you would know that his death was actually a murder. Just looking at this rifle is a joke. No way he could've even reached the trigger on that thing. Not to mention he had 3x the fatal dose that would kill the heaviest of heroin addicts. He would've been dead before he could've even gotten the rifle. Seattle PD botched that death investigation so bad. Never seen such inept work. Edit. He was wearing shoes. Couldn't have used toe to pull trigger on "rifle" shotgun.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=33&v=LBBqoA2e-kM 
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Posted: 3/18/2016 12:31:01 PM EDT
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Best thing he ever released was the safety on that shotgun.
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Posted: 3/18/2016 12:31:29 PM EDT
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He used the shotgun to kill himself. Just like every other shotgun suicide out there. Get over it.
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Posted: 3/18/2016 12:31:46 PM EDT
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I thought it was a Remington youth 20ga.
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Posted: 3/18/2016 12:32:08 PM EDT
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My father killed himself with a long gun like that....it's not impossible.
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Posted: 3/18/2016 12:32:16 PM EDT
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If you've seen Soaked In Bleach, you would know that his death was actually a murder. Just looking at this rifle is a joke. No way he could've even reached the trigger on that thing. Not to mention he had 3x the fatal dose that would kill the heaviest of heroin addicts. He would've been dead before he could've even gotten the rifle. Seattle PD botched that death investigation so bad. Never seen such inept work. https://cbsmiami.files.wordpress.com/2016/03/kurt-cobain-gun-31.jpg?w=420&h=747 What rifle? |
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Posted: 3/18/2016 12:32:25 PM EDT
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Someone needs to clean that poor gun.
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Posted: 3/18/2016 12:32:28 PM EDT
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No way he could've even reached the trigger on that thing. that is arguable |
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Posted: 3/18/2016 12:32:29 PM EDT
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Was he barefoot?
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Posted: 3/18/2016 12:32:37 PM EDT
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He used the shotgun to kill himself. Just like every other shotgun suicide out there. Get over it. I thought that too till I watched soaked in bleach. Good watch. Courtney Love is an evil dirty bitch. |
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Posted: 3/18/2016 12:33:04 PM EDT
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Posted: 3/18/2016 12:33:15 PM EDT
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Best thing he ever released was the safety on that shotgun.
FPNI |
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Posted: 3/18/2016 12:33:24 PM EDT
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I thought it was a Remington youth 20ga. Its a 20 gauge sportsman model I think. Its a Remington model 11 but its marketed toward bird hunters and only hold 2 in the magazine and 1 in the chamber. |
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Posted: 3/18/2016 12:33:36 PM EDT
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He used the shotgun to kill himself. Just like every other shotgun suicide out there. Get over it. He may not have been able to reach the trigger with his hand, so he used a toe. What's the big deal? Adapt improvise overcome and die trying. |
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Posted: 3/18/2016 12:33:38 PM EDT
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Shotty in mouth. Toe in trigger guard. Worked for the Japanese in WWII.
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Posted: 3/18/2016 12:33:45 PM EDT
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is that a Browning A5?
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Posted: 3/18/2016 12:34:07 PM EDT
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Just looking at this rifle is a joke.
You have been here long enough to realize that is not a rifle, right? |
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Posted: 3/18/2016 12:34:07 PM EDT
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Was he barefoot? This. Japs used to kill themselves with rifles and use their toe to pull the trigger. |
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Posted: 3/18/2016 12:34:30 PM EDT
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Soaked in Bleach was unwatchable.
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Posted: 3/18/2016 12:34:40 PM EDT
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While there are many arguments against his death being a suicide, length of gun isn't one of them.
He had toes. |
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Posted: 3/18/2016 12:35:05 PM EDT
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FPNI Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Best thing he ever released was the safety on that shotgun.
FPNI both of you drop and give me 10,000. 
btw, when do they release the scene photos? |
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Posted: 3/18/2016 12:35:11 PM EDT
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is that a Browning A5? Model 11 Sportsman |
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Posted: 3/18/2016 12:35:18 PM EDT
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Posted: 3/18/2016 12:35:28 PM EDT
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That Cutts Compensator (screw in choke system) added some length for sure.
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Posted: 3/18/2016 12:35:35 PM EDT
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edit - nvmd.
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Posted: 3/18/2016 12:36:10 PM EDT
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While there are many arguments against his death being a suicide, length of gun isn't one of them. He had toes. He had Converse One Stars on in the photo of his body taken through the window. |
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Posted: 3/18/2016 12:36:23 PM EDT
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is that a Browning A5? Model 11 Sportsman Which is a licensed copy of the Auto-5. . |
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Posted: 3/18/2016 12:36:26 PM EDT
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is that a Browning A5? Wondered that myself |
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Posted: 3/18/2016 12:36:29 PM EDT
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Was he barefoot? No he wasn't. They also found the shotgun shell on the opposite side of him where it would've ejected. That combined with the 3 x fatal dose of heroin in his system. He put his needle away. Then got the shotgun. No way. Seattle PD determined it was a suicide the Same day finding him. Didn't treat it as a proper death investigation. Watch the documentary. It's from the private Investigator that was hired by Courtney three days before his death because he was "missing". He knew something was wrong right away n recorded hundreds of audio tapes of their convos. She's guilty as sin and is behind his death 100%. |
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Posted: 3/18/2016 12:36:46 PM EDT
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Best thing he ever released was the safety on that shotgun.
high five! |
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Posted: 3/18/2016 12:37:35 PM EDT
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.....and he liked to shoot his gun.....
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Posted: 3/18/2016 12:37:55 PM EDT
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Which is a licensed copy of the Auto-5. . Quote HistoryQuoted:
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is that a Browning A5? Model 11 Sportsman Which is a licensed copy of the Auto-5. . The precursor of the Model 11, The Remington Autoloading Shotgun came first. |
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Posted: 3/18/2016 12:38:10 PM EDT
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He also had at least 10 times the amount of heroin in him that would result in an OD.
Even a normal dose of heroin will cause a person to nod off pretty hard, and the last thing they would be thinking about is offing themselves. Even if they wanted to, in their state of inexplicable bliss, they wouldn't be able to manage the shotgun. Now up their dose to even 5x what a normal hit is, and they are catatonic. He had an insane level of heroin in his system. It was simply impossible for him to do anything after receiving an excessively lethal dose. He was murdered, from a strictly investigative perspective. |
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Posted: 3/18/2016 12:39:35 PM EDT
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He also had at least 10 times the amount of heroin in him that would result in an OD. Even a normal dose of heroin will cause a person to nod off pretty hard, and the last thing they would be thinking about is offing themselves. Even if they wanted to, in their state of inexplicable bliss, they wouldn't be able to manage the shotgun. Now up their dose to even 5x what a normal hit is, and they are catatonic. He had an insane level of heroin in his system. It was simply impossible for him to do anything after receiving an excessively lethal dose. He was murdered, from a strictly investigative perspective. This. Even the Seattle police chief at the time admits they fucked up the investigation or lack there of. |
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Posted: 3/18/2016 12:40:44 PM EDT
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Best thing he ever released was the safety on that shotgun.
I hope you're joking. Nirvana changed music forever and helped killed hair metal. Also, re: he can't reach the trigger, yes you can. Watch FMJ if you don't think you can pull the trigger on a long barreled gun. Alternatively (get it, cuz it was alternative rock) one can use their foot. |
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Posted: 3/18/2016 12:40:45 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: No he wasn't. They also found the shotgun shell on the opposite side of him where it would've ejected. That combined with the 3 x fatal dose of heroin in his system. He put his needle away. Then got the shotgun. No way. Seattle PD determined it was a suicide the Same day finding him. Didn't treat it as a proper death investigation. Watch the documentary. It's from the private and never gator that was hired by Courtney three days before his death because he was "missing". He knew something was wrong right away n recorded hundreds of audio tapes of their convos. She's guilty as sin and is behind his death 100%. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Was he barefoot? No he wasn't. They also found the shotgun shell on the opposite side of him where it would've ejected. That combined with the 3 x fatal dose of heroin in his system. He put his needle away. Then got the shotgun. No way. Seattle PD determined it was a suicide the Same day finding him. Didn't treat it as a proper death investigation. Watch the documentary. It's from the private and never gator that was hired by Courtney three days before his death because he was "missing". He knew something was wrong right away n recorded hundreds of audio tapes of their convos. She's guilty as sin and is behind his death 100%. I'll buy that. |
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Posted: 3/18/2016 12:41:37 PM EDT
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He also had at least 10 times the amount of heroin in him that would result in an OD. Even a normal dose of heroin will cause a person to nod off pretty hard, and the last thing they would be thinking about is offing themselves. Even if they wanted to, in their state of inexplicable bliss, they wouldn't be able to manage the shotgun. Now up their dose to even 5x what a normal hit is, and they are catatonic. He had an insane level of heroin in his system. It was simply impossible for him to do anything after receiving an excessively lethal dose. He was murdered, from a strictly investigative perspective. Well, one thing I know for sure the Seattle P.D. conducted a thorough investigation 
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Posted: 3/18/2016 12:41:40 PM EDT
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One of them was bound to go off.
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Posted: 3/18/2016 12:41:56 PM EDT
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Mag capacity limits would have prevented everything.
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Posted: 3/18/2016 12:42:09 PM EDT
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He may not have been able to reach the trigger with his hand, so he used a toe. What's the big deal? Adapt improvise overcome and die trying. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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He used the shotgun to kill himself. Just like every other shotgun suicide out there. Get over it. He may not have been able to reach the trigger with his hand, so he used a toe. What's the big deal? Adapt improvise overcome and die trying. I guess he put his shoes back on after he killed himself then! |
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Posted: 3/18/2016 12:42:12 PM EDT
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He may not have been able to reach the trigger with his hand, so he used a toe. What's the big deal? Adapt improvise overcome and die trying. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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He used the shotgun to kill himself. Just like every other shotgun suicide out there. Get over it. He may not have been able to reach the trigger with his hand, so he used a toe. What's the big deal? Adapt improvise overcome and die trying. Both of his shoes were on |
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Posted: 3/18/2016 12:42:39 PM EDT
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He could've used his toe to pull the trigger
Edit: already covered. |
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Posted: 3/18/2016 12:43:21 PM EDT
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Both of his shoes were on Quote HistoryQuoted:
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He used the shotgun to kill himself. Just like every other shotgun suicide out there. Get over it. He may not have been able to reach the trigger with his hand, so he used a toe. What's the big deal? Adapt improvise overcome and die trying. Both of his shoes were on That complicates things. |
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Posted: 3/18/2016 12:43:35 PM EDT
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Curt Cobain Truthers. Who'da thunk it?
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Posted: 3/18/2016 12:43:36 PM EDT
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Like anyone on the planet with a leg couldn't stick a toe in there and pull the trigger. Did he have shoes on when they found him?
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Posted: 3/18/2016 12:44:13 PM EDT
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Well, one thing I know for sure the Seattle P.D. conducted a thorough investigation
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He also had at least 10 times the amount of heroin in him that would result in an OD. Even a normal dose of heroin will cause a person to nod off pretty hard, and the last thing they would be thinking about is offing themselves. Even if they wanted to, in their state of inexplicable bliss, they wouldn't be able to manage the shotgun. Now up their dose to even 5x what a normal hit is, and they are catatonic. He had an insane level of heroin in his system. It was simply impossible for him to do anything after receiving an excessively lethal dose. He was murdered, from a strictly investigative perspective. Well, one thing I know for sure the Seattle P.D. conducted a thorough investigation
No they didn't. The police chief at the time says they fucked it up and if they had the chance to do it again they would do it right. |
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Posted: 3/18/2016 12:44:40 PM EDT
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If you've seen Soaked In Bleach, you would know that his death was actually a murder. Just looking at this rifle is a joke. No way he could've even reached the trigger on that thing. Not to mention he had 3x the fatal dose that would kill the heaviest of heroin addicts. He would've been dead before he could've even gotten the rifle. Seattle PD botched that death investigation so bad. Never seen such inept work. https://cbsmiami.files.wordpress.com/2016/03/kurt-cobain-gun-31.jpg?w=420&h=747 It's a shotgun, not a rifle. |
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Posted: 3/18/2016 12:44:43 PM EDT
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This. Even the Seattle police chief at the time admits they fucked up the investigation or lack there of. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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He also had at least 10 times the amount of heroin in him that would result in an OD. Even a normal dose of heroin will cause a person to nod off pretty hard, and the last thing they would be thinking about is offing themselves. Even if they wanted to, in their state of inexplicable bliss, they wouldn't be able to manage the shotgun. Now up their dose to even 5x what a normal hit is, and they are catatonic. He had an insane level of heroin in his system. It was simply impossible for him to do anything after receiving an excessively lethal dose. He was murdered, from a strictly investigative perspective. This. Even the Seattle police chief at the time admits they fucked up the investigation or lack there of. It's not about what you know it is about what you can prove. Where was the evidence that it wasn't a suicide? Who would they prosecute? Motive is nice and all...but without evidence it wouldn't even make it to trial. |
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Posted: 3/18/2016 12:45:06 PM EDT
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He was wearing shoes people. Couldn't have used his toe!!
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Posted: 3/18/2016 12:45:11 PM EDT
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Like anyone on the planet with a leg couldn't stick a toe in there and pull the trigger. Did he have shoes on when they found him? Yup 
ETA 
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Posted: 3/18/2016 12:45:11 PM EDT
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is that a Browning A5? Model 11 Sportsman In 20ga. Remember that the barrel reciprocates too. The ejection pattern, death grip on the barrel, and the way the shotgun was oriented when the body was found are what makes the suicide questionable. Also the fact that Cobain already had a lethal dose of heroin in his system before the shotgun was used.. |
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