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Posted: 2/21/2016 2:29:58 PM EDT
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Yes they can catch stuff on fire, but pretty much all rounds will. All the belt feds have tracers in the linked ammo. Some guys carried a mag of tracers, some didn't. Normally it would just be squad leaders or team leaders if anybody did. I don't know of anybody that put them in mags near the bottom as a sign that it was time to reload.
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Posted: 2/21/2016 2:35:55 PM EDT
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My first deployment I'd been given 20 tracers for my loadout.
I topped off my loaded mag with 5 tracers mostly for when we did VCP's. All my mags had 2-3 tracers as the last rounds to let me know I needed to reload. |
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Posted: 2/21/2016 2:38:05 PM EDT
[#3]
thats genius!thanks guys!sounds like a solid game plan!
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Posted: 2/21/2016 2:39:09 PM EDT
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Carried a 20 round magazine that was all tracer. Used to orient fires. The triangle shape on my PEQ15 was used for the same.
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Posted: 2/21/2016 2:40:33 PM EDT
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We issue them because we have to, some units won't use them because they work both ways
Not all belt fed ammo have tracers in them. They do catch dry grass on fire In deployed environments we issue alot of Dim Tracer ammo for use with night vision |
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Posted: 2/21/2016 2:43:26 PM EDT
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The last three rounds in all my mags were tracers so I knew when it was time to reload.
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Posted: 2/21/2016 2:53:46 PM EDT
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a friend of mine gave me a few boxs of them and i wasnt really sure what to do with them.so..i will load them in the bottom of my shtf mags!..again thanks guys!
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Posted: 2/21/2016 9:22:31 PM EDT
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REMEMBER a few things:
They burn HOT......so if you are having a Zombie apocolypse in your house or a dry area---you may be fooked...... The older they are, the more trouble they have igniting...We were using up some Korean War era stuff "found in the back"--they all went Bang, but not all lit. A smart guy said the chemicals break down over time. I have also been told they really dislike being stored in damp environments--may or may be an issue in a go bag or something similar. Also have been told they are TERRIBLE for barrels as they jack up the temp. I have personal experience with 1 and 2 above, 3 is just hearsay.......Just remember, they are not Black Kats or snap caps, they can and will ruin some stuff. |
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Posted: 2/21/2016 9:34:00 PM EDT
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The will set stuff on fire for sure. I've set ranges on fire at Benning, Stewart, and Bragg. It sucks having to de-link tracer from SAW ammo by hand though.
They do not hurt your barrel. They light at ten to fifteen meters out to help conceal the person firing. |
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Posted: 2/21/2016 9:35:50 PM EDT
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My first deployment I'd been given 20 tracers for my loadout. I topped off my loaded mag with 5 tracers mostly for when we did VCP's. All my mags had 2-3 tracers as the last rounds to let me know I needed to reload. this +1 |
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Posted: 2/21/2016 9:40:10 PM EDT
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The will set stuff on fire for sure. I've set ranges on fire at Benning, Stewart, and Bragg. It sucks having to de-link tracer from SAW ammo by hand though. They do not hurt your barrel. They light at ten to fifteen meters out to help conceal the person firing. This. They typically start burning the tracer element 0.87 seconds after being ignited by the gunpowder. |
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Posted: 2/21/2016 9:41:30 PM EDT
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Last three rounds of each mag and one mag full of tracers for many purposes
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Posted: 2/23/2016 2:25:17 PM EDT
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First mag in the gun was a 20 rd mag of all tracers
If we were planning on being in and out of the vehicles I always preferred using a 20 rd mag in the gun because of the size convenience |
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Posted: 2/23/2016 2:27:37 PM EDT
[#14]
Since the PEQ 15's and other IR lasers have been available and in use, are tracers even necessary?
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Posted: 2/23/2016 2:28:53 PM EDT
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I have been issued 20 tracers on every deployment. I always kept them at the bottom of a mag to I would know when I was about to run dry, unless I was a gunner for a mission.
If I was a gunner in a vehicle I kept a mag or two with the tracers at the top of the mag for Escalation of Force reasons. Yes they do catch stuff on fire. |
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Posted: 2/23/2016 2:33:20 PM EDT
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I think we did every 4th round was a tracer for the M4 in 2007, I was security forces AF. Makes sense for dudes going out to do the last few rounds as tracers
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Posted: 2/23/2016 2:33:21 PM EDT
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I usually did 1 every 3-4 rounds and the last few all tracers.
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Posted: 2/23/2016 2:42:54 PM EDT
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Since the PEQ 15's and other IR lasers have been available and in use, are tracers even necessary? daytime? |
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Posted: 2/23/2016 2:46:45 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: REMEMBER a few things: They burn HOT......so if you are having a Zombie apocolypse in your house or a dry area---you may be fooked...... The older they are, the more trouble they have igniting...We were using up some Korean War era stuff "found in the back"--they all went Bang, but not all lit. A smart guy said the chemicals break down over time. I have also been told they really dislike being stored in damp environments--may or may be an issue in a go bag or something similar. Also have been told they are TERRIBLE for barrels as they jack up the temp. I have personal experience with 1 and 2 above, 3 is just hearsay.......Just remember, they are not Black Kats or snap caps, they can and will ruin some stuff. |
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Posted: 2/23/2016 2:52:09 PM EDT
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Sometimes.
Almost always carried a full mag of them, though...to mark targets if need be. Not that the fucking pilots could see them apparently...called in support one night so they could scan some rooftops for us...so was trying to point them down the right road...we had given them a grid, direction, how many buildings in, etc...finally told them I'd put some tracers down the road I wanted them to scan. What happened? I fired around 10 rounds down the road, at night, as the choppers were coming up from behind me. Didn't see a goddamned thing.  After that I usually just carried 855...fuck it. |
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Posted: 2/23/2016 2:57:13 PM EDT
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I was a Zoomie and we carried a 4:1 ratio of ball to tracers. On my Iraq deployment the turret gunners had a full mag of tracers in their M4s.
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Posted: 2/23/2016 3:07:56 PM EDT
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Since the PEQ 15's and other IR lasers have been available and in use, are tracers even necessary? daytime? So they are as effective in daylight as night? |
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Posted: 2/23/2016 3:10:46 PM EDT
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So they are as effective in daylight as night? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Since the PEQ 15's and other IR lasers have been available and in use, are tracers even necessary? daytime? So they are as effective in daylight as night? For EOF stuff, tracers and visible lasers are less effective in the daytime because there is less contrast in the light compared to using either at night. |
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Posted: 2/23/2016 3:12:02 PM EDT
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Yes Tracers will cause fires,
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Posted: 2/23/2016 3:13:39 PM EDT
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First mag in the gun was a 20 rd mag of all tracers If we were planning on being in and out of the vehicles I always preferred using a 20 rd mag in the gun because of the size convenience This. Once I did more dismounted operations, I went to a 30 round mag with 100% tracer as my up mag. I had 2 additional tracer mags and 4 mags with ball only. I didn't mix them and didn't put tracer in the bottom of my ball mags. |
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Posted: 2/23/2016 3:16:55 PM EDT
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Did the last few rounds in the mag to let you know you're about to go dry thing actually work?
I've read some books where people said they did that and never noticed the tracers anyway, and some people who were concerned about it letting the enemy know they were going dry (although I'd think some folks would be to busy to notice that either). |
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Posted: 2/23/2016 3:20:24 PM EDT
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Did the last few rounds in the mag to let you know you're about to go dry thing actually work? I've read some books where people said they did that and never noticed the tracers anyway, and some people who were concerned about it letting the enemy know they were going dry (although I'd think some folks would be to busy to notice that either). I don't know anybody who did. 5.56 tracers during the day you can hardly see as a shooter anyway. I used tracers to scare bad guys in a react to contact. |
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Posted: 2/23/2016 3:24:13 PM EDT
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Yup. Mag O' tracers for orientation of fires. I know Vehicle apolstery will catch on fire from tracers.
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Posted: 2/23/2016 3:24:41 PM EDT
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For EOF stuff, tracers and visible lasers are less effective in the daytime because there is less contrast in the light compared to using either at night. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Since the PEQ 15's and other IR lasers have been available and in use, are tracers even necessary? daytime? So they are as effective in daylight as night? For EOF stuff, tracers and visible lasers are less effective in the daytime because there is less contrast in the light compared to using either at night. Where is was going with my question about the PEQ's is that at least at night time, wouldn't not using tracers and only using NODs and PEQs not advertise the shooters location to the enemy? Provided of course the enemy does not have their own NODs. |
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Posted: 2/23/2016 3:31:25 PM EDT
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Since the PEQ 15's and other IR lasers have been available and in use, are tracers even necessary? I think yes. The PEQ15 tells me which way I'm aiming, the tracers tell me if i'm hitting. Tracers were part of the escalation of force. You would fire a tracer round in the direction of a vehicle that would not stop. |
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Posted: 2/23/2016 5:21:28 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Did the last few rounds in the mag to let you know you're about to go dry thing actually work? I've read some books where people said they did that and never noticed the tracers anyway, and some people who were concerned about it letting the enemy know they were going dry (although I'd think some folks would be to busy to notice that either). It works better with the M196 red tracers which ignite almost immediately than with the M856 orange tracers which ignite a short distance downrange. I doubt M196 is still issued, though, since it was for the M16/M16A1, not the heavier bullets in the A2. |
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Posted: 2/23/2016 5:23:42 PM EDT
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do you guys carry tracer rounds in your load outs?if so,how many and also..will they catch stuff on fire?...sounds dumb i know! My first deployment..we did a lot of missions at night... IR lasers are nice...and tracers work both ways....so we didn't use them. But we did make a giant red metal laser one night..with all the 5.56 tracer we didn't use.... |
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Posted: 2/23/2016 5:24:54 PM EDT
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I think yes. The PEQ15 tells me which way I'm aiming, the tracers tell me if i'm hitting. Tracers were part of the escalation of force. You would fire a tracer round in the direction of a vehicle that would not stop. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Since the PEQ 15's and other IR lasers have been available and in use, are tracers even necessary? I think yes. The PEQ15 tells me which way I'm aiming, the tracers tell me if i'm hitting. Tracers were part of the escalation of force. You would fire a tracer round in the direction of a vehicle that would not stop. Tracers...or a flare pen... |
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