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Posted: 10/14/2015 3:01:21 PM EDT
Saw this at Big 3 East last week.
Here's a nice write up by Tim Yan on the new Hi-Lux 1-8x http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2015/10/08/hi-lux-cmr8-1-8x26mm-tactical-scope-preview/ note how frakken short it is 
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Posted: 10/14/2015 3:15:06 PM EDT
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Very interesting. That is short as shit. 34mm tube.
Thanks OP. |
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Posted: 10/14/2015 3:50:33 PM EDT
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30% cheaper, 25% lighter, and 10% shorter than PA's new 1-8x.
You have my attention. |
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Posted: 10/14/2015 3:59:43 PM EDT
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Very interesting. I'm looking for the perfect scope for a 12.5" Grendel, this might be it.
I have no experience with that manufacturer. Are they a decent quality scope? |
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Posted: 10/14/2015 4:03:21 PM EDT
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How good are hi-lux scopes I have very little experience with them...
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Posted: 10/14/2015 4:04:54 PM EDT
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30% cheaper, 25% lighter, and 10% shorter than PA's new 1-8x. You have my attention. I like the way you think. |
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Posted: 10/14/2015 4:06:30 PM EDT
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Very interesting. I'm looking for the perfect scope for a 12.5" Grendel, this might be it. I have no experience with that manufacturer. Are they a decent quality scope? I have one of their 2X7 scout scopes on my Ruger GSR and it has worked so far. |
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Posted: 10/14/2015 4:13:39 PM EDT
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Needs to be illuminated
See post below |
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Posted: 10/14/2015 4:15:03 PM EDT
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Needs to be illuminated It is. |
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Posted: 10/14/2015 4:15:09 PM EDT
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Needs to be illuminated Did you read the article? It is illuminated with an off setting between every brightness setting. Perfect. |
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Posted: 10/14/2015 4:15:13 PM EDT
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Needs to be illuminated eta i need to learn how to read. yes i'm interested in this |
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Posted: 10/14/2015 4:18:46 PM EDT
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I really liked my Hi_Lux CMR, might have to pick one of these up.
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Posted: 10/14/2015 4:20:17 PM EDT
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How good are hi-lux scopes I have very little experience with them... I have one of their Leatherwood CMRs... It's a keeper. If this 1-8 is as good I could be in the market for one. |
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Posted: 10/14/2015 5:51:27 PM EDT
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eta i need to learn how to read. yes i'm interested in this Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Needs to be illuminated eta i need to learn how to read. yes i'm interested in this In before everyone quotes your first response |
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Posted: 10/14/2015 5:56:25 PM EDT
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Its $1000
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Posted: 10/14/2015 5:58:41 PM EDT
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Its $1000 First paragraph...Jesus.... "...will be under $1000 US dollars." |
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Posted: 10/14/2015 5:59:02 PM EDT
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Its $1000 Did you read the article? It said it'll be under $1000. Show me any decent quality 1-8x that is under $1000. |
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Posted: 10/14/2015 5:59:51 PM EDT
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Its $1000 1-8x? Short? Durable? Clear? I'll take two. |
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Posted: 10/14/2015 6:02:58 PM EDT
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I have one of their 2X7 scout scopes on my Ruger GSR and it has worked so far. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Very interesting. I'm looking for the perfect scope for a 12.5" Grendel, this might be it. I have no experience with that manufacturer. Are they a decent quality scope? I have one of their 2X7 scout scopes on my Ruger GSR and it has worked so far. Same here. I like their 2x7 Scout scope. I have one on my M1A Scout. This new one has me intrigued. Been looking to scope one of my ARs. |
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Posted: 10/14/2015 6:05:46 PM EDT
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Hopefully it's good quality glass. If it is, I'll probably buy one.
Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile |
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Posted: 10/14/2015 6:08:24 PM EDT
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what's the exterior finish? looks shiny and ugly.
But ya, it should be kick ass |
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Posted: 10/14/2015 6:12:11 PM EDT
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How good are they?
Before they released the CMR 1-4x it underwent endurance testing on PKMs, AKs and SVDs. This included 200 round bursts of 7.62x54R. The European military unit which performed the testing gave them very high marks with zero issues encountered. When they brought out their Micro B-Dot red dot sight they sent some off to Alexander Arms for endurance testing. They were baked and frozen and shot on .338 Lapua semi-autos and performed without issue. I have been very impressed with Hi-Lux. They have tried very hard to put out a quality product and a great price. They made a name for themselves with the CMR 1-4x and followed it up with their B-Dot red dot sight. This 1-8x could really be something....... Their target price is LESS than $899 |
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Posted: 10/14/2015 6:16:19 PM EDT
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Here's a review of the Hi-Lux Micro B-Dot red dot sight to give you guys an idea on Hi-Lux quality
and the endurance testing Alexander Arms did independently http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2015/04/21/hi-lux-optics-micromax-b-dot-mini-red-dot-sight/ Here two are mounted on an AA semi-auto .338 Lapua 
they survived temps which killed a T-1 during testing 
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Posted: 10/14/2015 6:18:01 PM EDT
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why are 1-8s so expensive.
you can get a viper pst for 6-24 for $800 |
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Posted: 10/14/2015 6:18:35 PM EDT
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Country of origin?
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Posted: 10/14/2015 6:19:29 PM EDT
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Oh yeah, didn't Recoil do a write up on these last week?
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Posted: 10/14/2015 6:21:45 PM EDT
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Posted: 10/14/2015 6:22:07 PM EDT
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Country of origin? I hate to say this but there are some decent quality scopes that are made in China. |
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Posted: 10/14/2015 6:23:11 PM EDT
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Oh yeah, didn't Recoil do a write up on these last week? LOL..... How you doing bro? Great seeing you last week at Big 3 East. |
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Posted: 10/14/2015 6:24:13 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I hate to say this but there are some decent quality scopes that are made in China. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Country of origin? I hate to say this but there are some decent quality scopes that are made in China. |
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Posted: 10/14/2015 6:25:59 PM EDT
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why are 1-8s so expensive. you can get a viper pst for 6-24 for $800 good question! a 6-24x scope has a very old school 4 fold magnification increase 6x4=24 A 1-8x has a 8 fold magnification increase......or twice as much. This is A LOT and requires a great deal of design work, head scratching additional lenses, more head scratching.....and more design work. Basically there is a lot more going on inside a 1-8x than a 6-24x |
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Posted: 10/14/2015 6:27:43 PM EDT
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For about $200 more I think I would stick to all Japanese at minimum. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Country of origin? I hate to say this but there are some decent quality scopes that are made in China. Normally I would avoid Chinese optics but Hi-Lux has proven to be the exception to the rule. They really are trying to put out good stuff and it shows. |
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Posted: 10/14/2015 6:27:57 PM EDT
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good question! a 6-24x scope has a very old school 4 fold magnification increase 6x4=24 A 1-8x has a 8 fold magnification increase......or twice as much. This is A LOT and requires a great deal of design work, head scratching additional lenses, more head scratching.....and more design work. Basically there is a lot more going on inside a 1-8x than a 6-24x Quote HistoryQuoted:
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why are 1-8s so expensive. you can get a viper pst for 6-24 for $800 good question! a 6-24x scope has a very old school 4 fold magnification increase 6x4=24 A 1-8x has a 8 fold magnification increase......or twice as much. This is A LOT and requires a great deal of design work, head scratching additional lenses, more head scratching.....and more design work. Basically there is a lot more going on inside a 1-8x than a 6-24x thanks now i know. 
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Posted: 10/14/2015 6:29:23 PM EDT
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Yes and if it's anything like their "micro" it'll have something stupid (like a non changeable auto power off) which makes the scope useless and they may or may not fix it with a later revision
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Posted: 10/14/2015 6:30:26 PM EDT
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why are 1-8s so expensive. you can get a viper pst for 6-24 for $800 Same reason shitty (by 2015 standards)millet DMS scopes went for 350 bucks when they first came out. the first guys to tool up gets the cream, and by the time the tech catches up across the market they have made a good chunk of money and can afford to lower prices to compete and bring out the next thingymajig. And I want to help them bring out that next thingy. by 2018 8x scopes will be a thing of the past a 100x zoom no eye relief HUD digital optics will be the in thing. dont get me wrong this is the bees knees, just saying. |
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Posted: 10/14/2015 6:31:48 PM EDT
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Yes and if it's anything like their "micro" it'll have something stupid (like a non changeable auto power off) which makes the scope useless and they may or may not fix it with a later revision Hmmm, customers said they didn't like the auto-off battery saver feature on the B-Dot and they eliminated it on their second production run. Pretty common knowledge. Seemed like they listened to what their customers wanted...... |
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Posted: 10/14/2015 6:33:47 PM EDT
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Yes and those of us that bought first gen just got screwed
nowhere was that feature disclosed to the public before shipping |
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Posted: 10/14/2015 6:47:07 PM EDT
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I dont think I have ever heard of a CMR breaking or failing.
If this optic is as good as the 4 zoom model, it will be tits. |
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Posted: 10/14/2015 6:51:58 PM EDT
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Yes and those of us that bought first gen just got screwed nowhere was that feature disclosed to the public before shipping LOL....are you serious? I think MAC wrote the first article on it, which was before its release and even he talks about it........ http://www.thebangswitch.com/first-look-hi-lux-micro-max-b-dot-rds/ |
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Posted: 10/14/2015 6:54:03 PM EDT
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I can't say I read that prior to buying the one I own
I can say it wasn't on CMR's website |
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Posted: 10/14/2015 6:55:31 PM EDT
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Did you read the article? It said it'll be under $1000. Show me any decent quality 1-8x that is under $1000. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Its $1000 Did you read the article? It said it'll be under $1000. Show me any decent quality 1-8x that is under $1000. What are we, made out of money? I spent $400 on my Ptac, that only leaves me with $37 for optics. 
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Posted: 10/14/2015 8:03:34 PM EDT
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For about $200 more I think I would stick to all Japanese at minimum. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Country of origin? I hate to say this but there are some decent quality scopes that are made in China. With the exception of SWFA's SS, which all Japanese scopes are you referring too? |
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Posted: 10/14/2015 8:10:04 PM EDT
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why are 1-8s so expensive. you can get a viper pst for 6-24 for $800 24/6 = 4. 8/1 = 8. It wasn't all that long ago that any optic with a magnification range of more than 3x was much more expensive and it's only recently that 8x is even available. |
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Posted: 10/14/2015 8:26:32 PM EDT
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Nice...
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Posted: 10/14/2015 8:37:46 PM EDT
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Do want, but I'm a poor bastard as of late.
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Posted: 10/14/2015 8:42:52 PM EDT
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it sure would be nice if it had a acog type reticle..or evemn pa acss!all them other lines and dots are cornfusing!
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Posted: 10/14/2015 8:54:45 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: With the exception of SWFA's SS, which all Japanese scopes are you referring too? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Country of origin? I hate to say this but there are some decent quality scopes that are made in China. With the exception of SWFA's SS, which all Japanese scopes are you referring too? |
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Posted: 10/14/2015 8:57:49 PM EDT
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Whats the reticle style??
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Posted: 10/14/2015 9:18:19 PM EDT
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I hate to say this but there are some decent quality scopes that are made in China. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Country of origin? I hate to say this but there are some decent quality scopes that are made in China. Lots of things are made extremely well in China. Unfortunately, once production starts to ramp up to meet demand (based on first units) quality often begins to ramp down. |
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Posted: 10/14/2015 9:35:02 PM EDT
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Looks like a good choice for my glassless SCAR 17.
How is their warranty? |
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Posted: 10/14/2015 9:39:01 PM EDT
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Looks like a good choice for my glassless SCAR 17. How is their warranty? Not that good! |
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