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Posted: 9/12/2015 4:04:37 PM EDT
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The LAV will not be pleased...he promotes this stuff pretty often
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Posted: 9/12/2015 4:05:55 PM EDT
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Surprised no one else has bothered to run it through a gas chromatograph ( or whatever chemists use)
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Posted: 9/12/2015 4:06:31 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The LAV will not be pleased...he promotes this stuff pretty often |
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Posted: 9/12/2015 4:10:18 PM EDT
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The LAV will not be pleased...he promotes this stuff pretty often Things like this is usually why I don't listen to LAV very often. |
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Posted: 9/12/2015 4:11:25 PM EDT
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Snake oil no matter what they call it. Why people pay for this flavor of the month stuff is beyond me.
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Posted: 9/12/2015 4:11:49 PM EDT
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Honestly, I never heard of Fire Clean until I read this thread...
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Posted: 9/12/2015 4:13:49 PM EDT
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Ruh-Roh. i have some Firecean.
 15$ for some ounces of cooking oil lol.
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Posted: 9/12/2015 4:15:09 PM EDT
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lol
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Posted: 9/12/2015 4:17:22 PM EDT
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But guys LAV did a video with hard evidence of its superiority. Didn't you see it? The gun with Fireclean had more smoke which was proof that it pulled fouling out of the rifle.
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Posted: 9/12/2015 4:17:38 PM EDT
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Maybe he puts it on his salads, oh weight.... Heh heh Quote HistoryQuoted:
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The LAV will not be pleased...he promotes this stuff pretty often 
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Posted: 9/12/2015 4:20:49 PM EDT
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George Fennell.. There's a name I haven't heard in a while. That article mentions that he's had bad things to say about FP-10, funny cuz he was supposed to have invented it and sure did think it was the best thing since mother's milk on his old FP-10 forum. He was a nice guy back then but certainly not shy with his opinions. He was a good part of the anti-militec movement back in the day, he does seem to enjoy taking the piss out of competitors, but he was right about militec in my experience, and I've got fifteen year old guns with a lot of rounds through 'em that have had a steady diet of FP-10 that look better than they should IMO.
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Posted: 9/12/2015 4:20:50 PM EDT
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What's wrong with some plain old motor oil? Cheap and not wanting in most climates.
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Posted: 9/12/2015 4:22:34 PM EDT
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Maybe he puts it on his salads, oh weight.... Heh heh Quote HistoryQuoted:
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The LAV will not be pleased...he promotes this stuff pretty often How dare you. He was Delta which is why he's fat. The nerve. |
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Posted: 9/12/2015 4:26:57 PM EDT
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What's wrong with some plain old oil? Cheap and not wanting in most climates. You ever seen BITOG? Oil in general is this weird topic that draws hype and superstition. Military gun cleaning standards and habits learned in the days of corrosive ammo have turned gun cleaning into a similar minefield of insanity. Nothing is ever good enough, anything less than perfect is unacceptable and tantamount to firearm rape. It's exactly the kind of market where you could sell crisco at a hundred bucks a tub if you got the right mouthpieces blabbing the right buzzwords. |
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Posted: 9/12/2015 4:32:17 PM EDT
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Maybe he puts it on his salads, oh weight.... Heh heh Quote HistoryQuoted:
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The LAV will not be pleased...he promotes this stuff pretty often 
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Posted: 9/12/2015 4:39:51 PM EDT
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I may be just a printer repairman but at least I'm not a fat shill for cooking oil.
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Posted: 9/12/2015 5:07:12 PM EDT
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What a fraud!!!
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Posted: 9/12/2015 5:28:22 PM EDT
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Posted: 9/12/2015 6:16:38 PM EDT
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Science bitches..... How does that work..
Amazing how even with the power of the internet, folks can still be convinced to buy expensive shit like Fire clean, or frog lube or gun better or some other such nonsense... One $5 quart of Mobil 1 and you have enough lubricant to last you for many years.... |
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Posted: 9/12/2015 6:21:32 PM EDT
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Science bitches..... How does that work.. Amazing how even with the power of the internet, folks can still be convinced to buy expensive shit like Fire clean, or frog lube or gun better or some other such nonsense... One $5 quart of Mobil 1 and you have enough lubricant to last you for many years.... I feel so unfashionable and not with it. I don't even use Mobil 1, I just use the Walmart equivalent. 
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Posted: 9/12/2015 6:24:28 PM EDT
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Lol
I would joke about LAV's credibility, if he had any |
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Posted: 9/12/2015 6:29:47 PM EDT
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Grease FTW. (I like my boutique CherryBalmz grease, it smells like cherries.
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Posted: 9/12/2015 6:31:48 PM EDT
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Science bitches..... How does that work.. Amazing how even with the power of the internet, folks can still be convinced to buy expensive shit like Fire clean, or frog lube or gun better or some other such nonsense... One $5 quart of Mobil 1 and you have enough lubricant to last you for many years.... LOL. Why buy Mobil1 then? Buy a quart of Walmart Brand oil. |
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Posted: 9/12/2015 6:34:32 PM EDT
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Another product based on marketing alone bites the dust. Good.
There's a vast variety of lubricants available, that feature real testing. Here's a nice example: http://www.exxonmobil.com/USA-English/Aviation/PDS/GLXXENAVIEMMobilgrease_28.aspx That's Mobil 28, an aviation grease recommended for use on AR triggers by some random dude named Geissele. Look at all those tests they put the stuff through, versus celebrity endorsements and questionable marketing speak which sells most lubes. |
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Posted: 9/12/2015 6:36:03 PM EDT
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George Fennell.. There's a name I haven't heard in a while. That article mentions that he's had bad things to say about FP-10, funny cuz he was supposed to have invented it and sure did think it was the best thing since mother's milk on his old FP-10 forum. He was a nice guy back then but certainly not shy with his opinions. He was a good part of the anti-militec movement back in the day, he does seem to enjoy taking the piss out of competitors, but he was right about militec in my experience, and I've got fifteen year old guns with a lot of rounds through 'em that have had a steady diet of FP-10 that look better than they should IMO. I think he criticized FP10 whenever they (supposedly) changed the formula after he left. Also, since Weapon Shield is his current offering, he claims that it has more or different or newer AW/EP additives. |
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Posted: 9/12/2015 6:45:26 PM EDT
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This is why I use Mobile 1
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Posted: 9/12/2015 6:48:06 PM EDT
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A shame the author of that blog stepped on his dick in the EE. He was a decent poster here.
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Posted: 9/12/2015 6:48:13 PM EDT
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I was banned from the LAV's facebook when I pointed out that FireClean turns to a hard waxy mess below freezing and can jam up the BCG of an AR, as a Cajun chef and frymaster, I also commented that it has the smell and consistency of used fry oil.
LAV even made a statement that "Fireclean isn't for safe queens, but rifles that you shoot all day" almost to mitigate that shit turns to wax if left cold. FWIW I have used it in 1911s and on AR's in normal temperatures and the guns LOOK cleaner than with thicker lubes like SLIP 2000 and Wilson Ultimate, but that's also because that shit is burning off when you shoot it. I have not had any stoppages, but I'm not a huge fan. My go to's: AR platform (and any gas operated rifle): EWL 1911: Wilson pink "ultimate" lube and Mobil 1 Bolt guns: Mobil 1 |
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Posted: 9/12/2015 6:55:19 PM EDT
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I literally have 20 different cleaners/Protectants/lube on my bench. And though I don't use fire clean for a lubricant, it works wonders for removing carbon. It's the only thing that can keep my Pistons clean on my suppressor, now I can easily change from one piston to another.
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Posted: 9/12/2015 6:57:10 PM EDT
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It's a shame 87GN isn't around anymore.
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Posted: 9/12/2015 6:57:13 PM EDT
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A shame the author of that blog stepped on his dick in the EE. He was a decent poster here. What happened? |
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Posted: 9/12/2015 6:58:36 PM EDT
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I literally have 20 different cleaners/Protectants/lube on my bench. And though I don't use fire clean for a lubricant, it works wonders for removing carbon. It's the only thing that can keep my Pistons clean on my suppressor, now I can easily change from one piston to another. Buying and using crisco would save you a lot. |
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Posted: 9/12/2015 6:59:08 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: What's wrong with some plain old motor oil? Cheap and not wanting in most climates. |
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Posted: 9/12/2015 6:59:10 PM EDT
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I literally have 20 different cleaners/Protectants/lube on my bench. And though I don't use fire clean for a lubricant, it works wonders for removing carbon. It's the only thing that can keep my Pistons clean on my suppressor, now I can easily change from one piston to another. Well, now you can save money and just use grocery store cooking oil for the same result. |
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Posted: 9/12/2015 7:00:55 PM EDT
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I literally have 20 different cleaners/Protectants/lube on my bench. And though I don't use fire clean for a lubricant, it works wonders for removing carbon. It's the only thing that can keep my Pistons clean on my suppressor, now I can easily change from one piston to another. Ever tried brake cleaner/carb cleaner? Eating carbon is what it's designed for. |
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Posted: 9/12/2015 7:02:46 PM EDT
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Ever tried brake cleaner/carb cleaner? Eating carbon is what it's designed for. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I literally have 20 different cleaners/Protectants/lube on my bench. And though I don't use fire clean for a lubricant, it works wonders for removing carbon. It's the only thing that can keep my Pistons clean on my suppressor, now I can easily change from one piston to another. Ever tried brake cleaner/carb cleaner? Eating carbon is what it's designed for. Use the non-chlorinated kind and keep it away from anything plastic. |
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Posted: 9/12/2015 7:03:52 PM EDT
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A shame the author of that blog stepped on his dick in the EE. He was a decent poster here. What happened? http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_7_109/832239_.html |
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Posted: 9/12/2015 7:08:38 PM EDT
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Use the non-chlorinated kind and keep it away from anything plastic. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I literally have 20 different cleaners/Protectants/lube on my bench. And though I don't use fire clean for a lubricant, it works wonders for removing carbon. It's the only thing that can keep my Pistons clean on my suppressor, now I can easily change from one piston to another. Ever tried brake cleaner/carb cleaner? Eating carbon is what it's designed for. Use the non-chlorinated kind and keep it away from anything plastic. And far away from your eyes. It's my favorite cleaner (as it blasts away carbon and old lube equally well) but use with care. |
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Posted: 9/12/2015 7:09:08 PM EDT
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I'm wait in for Haley's dragonfly lube.
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Posted: 9/12/2015 7:10:02 PM EDT
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Ever tried brake cleaner/carb cleaner? Eating carbon is what it's designed for. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I literally have 20 different cleaners/Protectants/lube on my bench. And though I don't use fire clean for a lubricant, it works wonders for removing carbon. It's the only thing that can keep my Pistons clean on my suppressor, now I can easily change from one piston to another. Ever tried brake cleaner/carb cleaner? Eating carbon is what it's designed for. I haven't found carb cleaner to work very well at all on suppressors. |
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Posted: 9/12/2015 7:12:19 PM EDT
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A shame the author of that blog stepped on his dick in the EE. He was a decent poster here. What happened? http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_7_109/832239_.html Thanks |
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Posted: 9/12/2015 7:20:02 PM EDT
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I think he criticized FP10 whenever they (supposedly) changed the formula after he left. Also, since Weapon Shield is his current offering, he claims that it has more or different or newer AW/EP additives. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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George Fennell.. There's a name I haven't heard in a while. That article mentions that he's had bad things to say about FP-10, funny cuz he was supposed to have invented it and sure did think it was the best thing since mother's milk on his old FP-10 forum. He was a nice guy back then but certainly not shy with his opinions. He was a good part of the anti-militec movement back in the day, he does seem to enjoy taking the piss out of competitors, but he was right about militec in my experience, and I've got fifteen year old guns with a lot of rounds through 'em that have had a steady diet of FP-10 that look better than they should IMO. I think he criticized FP10 whenever they (supposedly) changed the formula after he left. Also, since Weapon Shield is his current offering, he claims that it has more or different or newer AW/EP additives. Aaahhh... I've still got some pre-changeover FP-10 I bought back in '02 or so. He's a loud dude but I absolutely CANNOT complain about his product. If Weapon Shield is comparable to the old FP-10 that's what I'll stock up on next. Might be a few more years, I stacked deep.
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Posted: 9/12/2015 7:39:50 PM EDT
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Ever tried brake cleaner/carb cleaner? Eating carbon is what it's designed for. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I literally have 20 different cleaners/Protectants/lube on my bench. And though I don't use fire clean for a lubricant, it works wonders for removing carbon. It's the only thing that can keep my Pistons clean on my suppressor, now I can easily change from one piston to another. Ever tried brake cleaner/carb cleaner? Eating carbon is what it's designed for. I haven't used carb cleaner, used brake parts cleaner though. I'll give the crisco a try though to see if it's the same as fireclean, Bc literally a couple drops is all it takes, and it takes off carbon without effort. For the suppressed guys, I can't recommend it enough. |
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Posted: 9/12/2015 7:51:35 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Use the non-chlorinated kind and keep it away from anything plastic. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: I literally have 20 different cleaners/Protectants/lube on my bench. And though I don't use fire clean for a lubricant, it works wonders for removing carbon. It's the only thing that can keep my Pistons clean on my suppressor, now I can easily change from one piston to another. Ever tried brake cleaner/carb cleaner? Eating carbon is what it's designed for. Use the non-chlorinated kind and keep it away from anything plastic. |
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Posted: 9/12/2015 7:56:31 PM EDT
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Maybe he puts it on his salads, oh weight.... Heh heh Quote HistoryQuoted:
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The LAV will not be pleased...he promotes this stuff pretty often You leave the LAV alone!
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Posted: 9/12/2015 8:00:09 PM EDT
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Science bitches..... How does that work.. Amazing how even with the power of the internet, folks can still be convinced to buy expensive shit like Fire clean, or frog lube or gun better or some other such nonsense... One $5 quart of Mobil 1 and you have enough lubricant to last you for many years.... Mobil 1 gets it done. |
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Posted: 9/12/2015 8:07:02 PM EDT
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Gun scrubber strips a gun down quickly
It's probably carb or brake cleaner in a more expensive can |
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Posted: 9/12/2015 8:09:58 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Surprised no one else has bothered to run it through a gas chromatograph ( or whatever chemists use) |
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Posted: 9/12/2015 8:10:47 PM EDT
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I still have a can of g96 from like 1996.
Works good, smells good. |
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Posted: 9/12/2015 8:16:51 PM EDT
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Heh, was hosing down my AK gas port with non-chlorinated brake cleaner and it started taking the lacquer off the wooden furniture. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I literally have 20 different cleaners/Protectants/lube on my bench. And though I don't use fire clean for a lubricant, it works wonders for removing carbon. It's the only thing that can keep my Pistons clean on my suppressor, now I can easily change from one piston to another. Ever tried brake cleaner/carb cleaner? Eating carbon is what it's designed for. Use the non-chlorinated kind and keep it away from anything plastic. That's why you take the handguard off first. |
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