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Posted: 12/4/2015 1:23:52 AM EDT
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Posted: 12/4/2015 2:16:29 AM EDT
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The officiating this year has been atrocious.
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Posted: 12/4/2015 2:35:09 AM EDT
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Jim Daopoulos ?@RefereeJimD
Just looked at that face mask call....there was no grab nor any twist. Just an incorrect call! #1 According to the rule, a grab is not required. #2 there was clearly a twist, and Rodgers chin strap ended up over his nose. |
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Posted: 12/4/2015 3:09:22 AM EDT
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And why was he falling? And his chin strap up on his nose? 
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Bullshit face mask call. Thumb hit the face mask, it turned Rogers head...technically the correct call.  Yeah, Rogers falling has nothing to do with his head turning. And why was he falling? And his chin strap up on his nose?
His chin strap is on his nose because he uses a shitty old school one that doesn't secure his helmet properly? |
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Posted: 12/4/2015 3:16:32 AM EDT
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His chin strap is on his nose because he uses a shitty old school one that doesn't secure his helmet properly? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Bullshit face mask call. Thumb hit the face mask, it turned Rogers head...technically the correct call. Yeah, Rogers falling has nothing to do with his head turning. And why was he falling? And his chin strap up on his nose?
His chin strap is on his nose because he uses a shitty old school one that doesn't secure his helmet properly? So the old school ones don't work? The ones they used before there were all the rules protecting the QB and they got hit on every play? |
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Posted: 12/4/2015 4:09:06 AM EDT
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#1 According to the rule, a grab is not required. #2 there was clearly a twist, and Rodgers chin strap ended up over his nose. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Jim Daopoulos ?@RefereeJimD
Just looked at that face mask call....there was no grab nor any twist. Just an incorrect call! #1 According to the rule, a grab is not required. #2 there was clearly a twist, and Rodgers chin strap ended up over his nose. 
Article 5 No player shall twist, turn, or pull the facemask of an opponent in any direction.
A.R. 12.12 Third-and-10 on A30. Runner A1 runs to the A33, where he is tackled by B1, who incidentally grasps A1’s facemask on the tackle, but it is not a twist, turn, or pull. Ruling: A’s ball, fourth-and-seven, on A33. No Foul. How does a grabless "twist, turn or pull" work exactly? |
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Posted: 12/4/2015 4:17:48 AM EDT
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Posted: 12/4/2015 4:25:35 AM EDT
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Looked like a facemask at full speed.
Im laughing at you guys who see the ultra slow mo, see it wasnt quite actually a facemask (more like a facemask brush then shoulder pad throwdown) and cry refball. I see this all the time. We (and the refs) see the action at full speed. Then when the flags get thrown and the TV viewers and fans at the stadium get to see it at 1000fps, people shit bricks if the ref was actually wrong. Do people think refs see in bullet-time? Not everything is reviewable in ghe NFL. Look how even plays that go to replay can have one side still screaming refball when it doesnt go their way. |
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Posted: 12/4/2015 4:26:40 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryImagine seeing that in real time from 10 yards away. |
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Posted: 12/4/2015 5:01:42 AM EDT
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Looked like a facemask at full speed. Im laughing at you guys who see the ultra slow mo, see it wasnt quite actually a facemask (more like a facemask brush then shoulder pad throwdown) and cry refball. I see this all the time. We (and the refs) see the action at full speed. Then when the flags get thrown and the TV viewers and fans at the stadium get to see it at 1000fps, people shit bricks if the ref was actually wrong. Do people think refs see in bullet-time? Not everything is reviewable in ghe NFL. Look how even plays that go to replay can have one side still screaming refball when it doesnt go their way. Which is why I think they need to have an automatic review of penalty calls after the final 2 min warning. If there was a dedicated booth judge immediately reviewing plays after the flags come out, it would be quick and easy. It's not like the officials don't already have the comms in place to do it. |
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Posted: 12/4/2015 5:14:10 AM EDT
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The officiating this year has been atrocious. i feel like that is said every year, but this year seems pretty damn bad |
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Posted: 12/4/2015 5:15:03 AM EDT
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Imagine seeing that in real time from 10 yards away. Quote HistoryQuoted:
Imagine seeing that in real time from 10 yards away. isn't it non reviewable? still a bullshit call |
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Posted: 12/4/2015 6:23:28 AM EDT
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did they do away with the 'touching the facemask' rule? old rule was any hand to the facemask at all was 15 yards. this was revised a few years ago to grasping = personal foul, and touching = 5 yards. Did they do away with the touching rule completely?
yay! i caught this before submitting. apparently they did. hard to say whether the mask was grasped and pulled--rodgers' head snapped around pretty hard. this is one of those calls that wouldn't have created such controversy if the overall officiating had been better this season. the officials are now determining games on a regular basis, which is exactly what the league tried so hard to avoid. |
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Posted: 12/4/2015 9:45:13 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I feel bad for you Lion fans. Playing against Rogers is a real bitch. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Same ol lions I feel bad for you Lion fans. Playing against Rogers is a real bitch. Ah shit man, it's what I've grown up getting used to. Before the season started there was a ton of chatter in this State that the Lions were EXPECTED to be a playoff team. I just wanted to strangle them and yell in their ear that this is the Detroit Lions.... it doesn't matter how good their roster is. They'll ALWAYS SUCK.  |
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Posted: 12/4/2015 9:54:35 AM EDT
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I'm a Bears fan that was hardcore rooting for the Lions.
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Posted: 12/4/2015 9:55:45 AM EDT
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Which is why I think they need to have an automatic review of penalty calls after the final 2 min warning. If there was a dedicated booth judge immediately reviewing plays after the flags come out, it would be quick and easy. It's not like the officials don't already have the comms in place to do it. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Looked like a facemask at full speed. Im laughing at you guys who see the ultra slow mo, see it wasnt quite actually a facemask (more like a facemask brush then shoulder pad throwdown) and cry refball. I see this all the time. We (and the refs) see the action at full speed. Then when the flags get thrown and the TV viewers and fans at the stadium get to see it at 1000fps, people shit bricks if the ref was actually wrong. Do people think refs see in bullet-time? Not everything is reviewable in ghe NFL. Look how even plays that go to replay can have one side still screaming refball when it doesnt go their way. Which is why I think they need to have an automatic review of penalty calls after the final 2 min warning. If there was a dedicated booth judge immediately reviewing plays after the flags come out, it would be quick and easy. It's not like the officials don't already have the comms in place to do it. I cannot support mandatory clock stoppages in the final 2 minutes. It would change clock management strategy. |
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Posted: 12/4/2015 9:59:11 AM EDT
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Imagine seeing that in real time from 10 yards away. Quote HistoryQuoted:
Imagine seeing that in real time from 10 yards away. If that was my job, I would have to thing they should make the correct call. |
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Posted: 12/4/2015 10:20:52 AM EDT
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The officiating this year has been atrocious. Yes it has. |
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Posted: 12/4/2015 10:47:27 AM EDT
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Atrocious officiating. Atrocious Lions Hail Mary "defense". Lions running Joique Bell 4 times for -4 yards when trying to run out the clock gets honorable mention.
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Posted: 12/4/2015 10:57:12 AM EDT
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Posted: 12/4/2015 9:52:12 PM EDT
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According to Pro Football Focus, Luke Kuechly is allowing a passer rating of 44.1 this season. The average for inside linebackers is 103.0. |
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Posted: 12/4/2015 9:58:07 PM EDT
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Atrocious officiating. Atrocious Lions Hail Mary "defense". How the fuck they were all BEHIND the Packers is amusing. and yeah, the zebras have struggled in quite a few games this year. |
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Posted: 12/4/2015 10:15:02 PM EDT
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I didn't catch the game until the end. How did they blow a 20 point lead?
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Posted: 12/4/2015 10:24:54 PM EDT
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I didn't catch the game until the end. How did they blow a 20 point lead? They're the lions. |
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Posted: 12/4/2015 10:25:31 PM EDT
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DT.
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Posted: 12/4/2015 10:28:20 PM EDT
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According to Pro Football Focus, Luke Kuechly is allowing a passer rating of 44.1 this season. The average for inside linebackers is 103.0. Well, he covers the part of the Earth not covered by water after all. |
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Posted: 12/4/2015 10:38:25 PM EDT
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http://memecrunch.com/meme/713VZ/testy/image.png How does a grabless "twist, turn or pull" work exactly? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Just looked at that face mask call....there was no grab nor any twist. Just an incorrect call! #1 According to the rule, a grab is not required. #2 there was clearly a twist, and Rodgers chin strap ended up over his nose. http://memecrunch.com/meme/713VZ/testy/image.png Article 5 No player shall twist, turn, or pull the facemask of an opponent in any direction.
A.R. 12.12 Third-and-10 on A30. Runner A1 runs to the A33, where he is tackled by B1, who incidentally grasps A1’s facemask on the tackle, but it is not a twist, turn, or pull. Ruling: A’s ball, fourth-and-seven, on A33. No Foul. How does a grabless "twist, turn or pull" work exactly? By sticking your thumb betwixt the openings in the face mask, then the face mask/thumb meetup in an opposite and opposing manner causing the entire helmet to twist. Otherwise known as what is clearly shown in the video. Sorry about your eyes, that may be the real root problem here, you might want to have that looked at by an optimologist. |
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Posted: 12/5/2015 12:10:39 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: By sticking your thumb betwixt the openings in the face mask, then the face mask/thumb meetup in an opposite and opposing manner causing the entire helmet to twist. Otherwise known as what is clearly shown in the video. Sorry about your eyes, that may be the real root problem here, you might want to have that looked at by an optimologist. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: How does a grabless "twist, turn or pull" work exactly? By sticking your thumb betwixt the openings in the face mask, then the face mask/thumb meetup in an opposite and opposing manner causing the entire helmet to twist. Otherwise known as what is clearly shown in the video. Sorry about your eyes, that may be the real root problem here, you might want to have that looked at by an optimologist. Wonderful word. |
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Posted: 12/5/2015 12:21:03 AM EDT
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How the fuck they were all BEHIND the Packers is amusing. and yeah, the zebras have struggled in quite a few games this year. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Atrocious officiating. Atrocious Lions Hail Mary "defense". How the fuck they were all BEHIND the Packers is amusing. and yeah, the zebras have struggled in quite a few games this year. I watched the catch a few times. Complete fuck up by the lions. They let 3 ball catchers be in front of them. |
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Posted: 12/5/2015 12:28:37 AM EDT
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Wonderful word. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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How does a grabless "twist, turn or pull" work exactly? By sticking your thumb betwixt the openings in the face mask, then the face mask/thumb meetup in an opposite and opposing manner causing the entire helmet to twist. Otherwise known as what is clearly shown in the video. Sorry about your eyes, that may be the real root problem here, you might want to have that looked at by an optimologist. Wonderful word. And from a guy with doc holliday as his avatar. 
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Posted: 12/5/2015 11:52:18 AM EDT
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Thanks for screwing me last night Eddie Lacy, you dumb fat bastard. With my playoffs on the line he puts up .1 points. Rumor has it that he was being punished for a midweek curfew violation. It would have been nice for the Packer organization to release this information, with all the stupid rules in the NFL, now they should make some that protect Fantasy Football owners. LMAO One angry FF'er. |
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Posted: 12/5/2015 12:07:37 PM EDT
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According to Pro Football Focus, Luke Kuechly is allowing a passer rating of 44.1 this season. The average for inside linebackers is 103.0. And yet Cam "50 percent completions" Newton is supposed MVP because the team is winning. More SJW bullshit. |
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Posted: 12/5/2015 12:23:57 PM EDT
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And yet Cam "50 percent completions" Newton is supposed MVP because the team is winning. More SJW bullshit. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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According to Pro Football Focus, Luke Kuechly is allowing a passer rating of 44.1 this season. The average for inside linebackers is 103.0. And yet Cam "50 percent completions" Newton is supposed MVP because the team is winning. More SJW bullshit. Yeah, the numbers for the majority of his games look a hell of a lot more like a Tim Tebow season than an MVP season. It's Kuechly and the defense that's got them here. Not Newton. It doesn't matter anyway though. Barring a significant injury the man-child has a snowball's chance in hell of beating out Brady. |
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Posted: 12/5/2015 6:02:11 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Yeah, the numbers for the majority of his games look a hell of a lot more like a Tim Tebow season than an MVP season. It's Kuechly and the defense that's got them here. Not Newton. It doesn't matter anyway though. Barring a significant injury the man-child has a snowball's chance in hell of beating out Brady. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: According to Pro Football Focus, Luke Kuechly is allowing a passer rating of 44.1 this season. The average for inside linebackers is 103.0. And yet Cam "50 percent completions" Newton is supposed MVP because the team is winning. More SJW bullshit. Yeah, the numbers for the majority of his games look a hell of a lot more like a Tim Tebow season than an MVP season. It's Kuechly and the defense that's got them here. Not Newton. It doesn't matter anyway though. Barring a significant injury the man-child has a snowball's chance in hell of beating out Brady. |
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Posted: 12/5/2015 6:15:09 PM EDT
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Writing is on the wall, Cam is going to be MVP. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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According to Pro Football Focus, Luke Kuechly is allowing a passer rating of 44.1 this season. The average for inside linebackers is 103.0. And yet Cam "50 percent completions" Newton is supposed MVP because the team is winning. More SJW bullshit. Yeah, the numbers for the majority of his games look a hell of a lot more like a Tim Tebow season than an MVP season. It's Kuechly and the defense that's got them here. Not Newton. It doesn't matter anyway though. Barring a significant injury the man-child has a snowball's chance in hell of beating out Brady. Wouldn't be surprised. Folks outside of New England are sick of the Patriots and with as flawed as MVP voting has occasionally been(Rogers last year) anything can happen. |
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Posted: 12/5/2015 6:22:15 PM EDT
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LMAO One angry FF'er. Quote HistoryQuoted:
Thanks for screwing me last night Eddie Lacy, you dumb fat bastard. With my playoffs on the line he puts up .1 points. Rumor has it that he was being punished for a midweek curfew violation. It would have been nice for the Packer organization to release this information, with all the stupid rules in the NFL, now they should make some that protect Fantasy Football owners. LMAO One angry FF'er. Lacey got off easy... They fired the other player he was with. Hahah |
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Posted: 12/5/2015 10:05:29 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: By sticking your thumb betwixt the openings in the face mask, then the face mask/thumb meetup in an opposite and opposing manner causing the entire helmet to twist. Otherwise known as what is clearly shown in the video. Sorry about your eyes, that may be the real root problem here, you might want to have that looked at by an optimologist. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: #1 According to the rule, a grab is not required. #2 there was clearly a twist, and Rodgers chin strap ended up over his nose. http://memecrunch.com/meme/713VZ/testy/image.png Article 5 No player shall twist, turn, or pull the facemask of an opponent in any direction. A.R. 12.12 Third-and-10 on A30. Runner A1 runs to the A33, where he is tackled by B1, who incidentally grasps A1’s facemask on the tackle, but it is not a twist, turn, or pull. Ruling: A’s ball, fourth-and-seven, on A33. No Foul. How does a grabless "twist, turn or pull" work exactly? By sticking your thumb betwixt the openings in the face mask, then the face mask/thumb meetup in an opposite and opposing manner causing the entire helmet to twist. Otherwise known as what is clearly shown in the video. Sorry about your eyes, that may be the real root problem here, you might want to have that looked at by an optimologist. Ok I am going to take a stab here, the key word in the rule is grasp Before in years past incidental face mask was accidentally grabbing face mask and then letting go of it immediately and was a 5 yard penalty and for instance when a ball runner changed direction and the defender ran past but grasped but let go immediately of the face mask The flagrant is self explanatory and was/is a 15 yard penalty. I may be totally wrong here but I am sure someone will straighten me out or explain it to me to reset my memory if so Jim Daopoulos ?@RefereeJimD Just looked at that face mask call....there was no grab nor any twist. Just an incorrect call! |
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Posted: 12/5/2015 10:15:22 PM EDT
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They need to start reviewing all flags in the last 2 minutes of a game...
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Posted: 12/5/2015 11:04:23 PM EDT
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Ok I am going to take a stab here, the key word in the rule is grasp Quote HistoryQuoted:
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#1 According to the rule, a grab is not required. #2 there was clearly a twist, and Rodgers chin strap ended up over his nose. http://memecrunch.com/meme/713VZ/testy/image.png Article 5 No player shall twist, turn, or pull the facemask of an opponent in any direction.
A.R. 12.12 Third-and-10 on A30. Runner A1 runs to the A33, where he is tackled by B1, who incidentally grasps A1’s facemask on the tackle, but it is not a twist, turn, or pull. Ruling: A’s ball, fourth-and-seven, on A33. No Foul. How does a grabless "twist, turn or pull" work exactly? By sticking your thumb betwixt the openings in the face mask, then the face mask/thumb meetup in an opposite and opposing manner causing the entire helmet to twist. Otherwise known as what is clearly shown in the video. Sorry about your eyes, that may be the real root problem here, you might want to have that looked at by an optimologist. Ok I am going to take a stab here, the key word in the rule is grasp No the key word in the rule, as it applies here, is twist. The rule defines what constitutes a "grasp" as something that causes the ball carriers head to twist. In this case, the defenders finger hit the face mask, causing the ball carriers head to twist in an obvious and violent manner. It was so obvious, that two flags were immediately thrown by different refs, and the announcers immediately said "face mask." Only after people could watch it in super slow motion could they pretend that the players head wasn't turned, and the face mask wasn't intentionally gripped by multiple digits like you normally see with a face mask call. |
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Posted: 12/6/2015 12:13:35 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Wouldn't be surprised. Folks outside of New England are sick of the Patriots and with as flawed as MVP voting has occasionally been(Rogers last year) anything can happen. I still believe Rodgers is the best QB in the league, followed by Brees, though he's falling off. |
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Posted: 12/6/2015 1:09:40 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I still believe Rodgers is the best QB in the league, followed by Brees, though he's falling off. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Wouldn't be surprised. Folks outside of New England are sick of the Patriots and with as flawed as MVP voting has occasionally been(Rogers last year) anything can happen. I still believe Rodgers is the best QB in the league, followed by Brees, though he's falling off. What about Alex Smith? Haven't heard his name at all this season. |
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Posted: 12/6/2015 1:44:56 PM EDT
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They need to start reviewing all flags in the last 2 minutes of a game... Yeah, how about "No."? |
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Posted: 12/6/2015 4:14:15 PM EDT
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Does anyone have a link to stream the patriots game? Of couse they are gonna show the panthers even though no one here wants to watch them
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Posted: 12/6/2015 4:16:58 PM EDT
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Writing is on the wall, Cam is going to be MVP. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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According to Pro Football Focus, Luke Kuechly is allowing a passer rating of 44.1 this season. The average for inside linebackers is 103.0. And yet Cam "50 percent completions" Newton is supposed MVP because the team is winning. More SJW bullshit. Yeah, the numbers for the majority of his games look a hell of a lot more like a Tim Tebow season than an MVP season. It's Kuechly and the defense that's got them here. Not Newton. It doesn't matter anyway though. Barring a significant injury the man-child has a snowball's chance in hell of beating out Brady. Lol what a sham that would be 
The panthers winning has nothing to do with cams mediocre skills it's Keuchly that makes that team |
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Posted: 12/6/2015 4:20:46 PM EDT
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Looks like Seattle's offense is coming together.
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Posted: 12/6/2015 4:24:39 PM EDT
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Does anyone have a link to stream the patriots game? Of couse they are gonna show the panthers even though no one here wants to watch them I typically have to google search around in order to find games. They are often from locations outside the country. I really haven't found one that is reliable throughout the season. I'm actually surprised the Indy networks are showing the Pats today. Normally they'll find some random mediocre game to show out of spite. |
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Posted: 12/6/2015 4:25:26 PM EDT
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Looks like Seattle's offense is coming together. 5 touchdowns so far. Yeah, Minnesota is getting the beat down at home. 
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Posted: 12/6/2015 4:28:10 PM EDT
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Giants are stupid.
Why not take 3 and make it a 2 touchdown game?? Play call was stupid. 3 step quick hit. Stupid team is stupid. |
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Posted: 12/6/2015 4:35:22 PM EDT
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The officiating this year has been atrocious. Funny how much everybody in the sports world bitched about how bad the replacement officials were and that the union guys would get the calls right. |
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Posted: 12/6/2015 5:14:59 PM EDT
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Lol Chicago
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