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Posted: 7/3/2015 4:32:03 AM EDT
Chicago in an effort to grow revenue is attempting to tax the internet. They are really targeting places that are streaming movies and music and games, and call out those three in the new laws they are implementing, but they also say this
The amusement tax applies to charges paid for the privilege to witness, view or participate in an amusement. This includes not only charges paid for the privilege to witness, view or participate in amusements in person but also charges paid for the privilege to witness, view or participate in amusements that are delivered electronically. Thus, it seems that anyone who pays membership fees and is from Chicago needs to have 9% of their membership dues sent over. |
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Get ready for a shit-ton more things like that.
Taxes are about to go way up there. People are going to leave because of it. Total tax receipts will go down. Place will still be fucked. If they want to fix this, they need to attract business, not run it out. |
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Get ready for a shit-ton more things like that. Taxes are about to go way up there. People are going to leave because of it. Total tax receipts will go down. Place will still be fucked. If they want to fix this, they need to attract business, not run it out. View Quote Good, burn baby. |
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A lot of the big cities are going to have to do this, Chicago is just the first to step up to the plate. Once the precedence is set expect it to expand. Keep your powder dry, this is going to push people from the cities to the 'burbs and then the cities will have to push to tax the 'burbs.
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an amusement tax?
You have to pay a tax to enjoy any form of entertainment? That's almost as fucking stupid as the fucking "rain tax" maryland has |
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To fix the overburdened union pensions, tax more. Yeah that will work, cause the assholes managed the money so well the first time around.
Dump the unions and pensions. 401k matching deposits for individuals as long as they work and their retirement money will be there without any further issues. Of course. The dem party loses cash in that scenario, and the employees will retain it. |
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That's how Socialism works to pay for the free stuff. They're running out of other peoples' money.
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Cooke County sheriff is currently trying to drive Backpage.com out of business.
Fuck Chicago. |
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And more people will just raise the pirate flag and go to the bay
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I'll laugh my ass off if the internet blacklists Chicago and cuts them off.
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Get ready for a shit-ton more things like that. Taxes are about to go way up there. People are going to leave because of it. Total tax receipts will go down. Place will still be fucked. If they want to fix this, they need to attract business, not run it out. View Quote Man from Tunisia is right. You can't tax happiness without consequences. |
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Get ready for a shit-ton more things like that. Taxes are about to go way up there. People are going to leave because of it. Total tax receipts will go down. Place will still be fucked. If they want to fix this, they need to attract business, not run it out. View Quote Fuck them, they need to stay north of the Aurora/Joliet line. We don't need them tards down here. I know that a bunch of them white tards bought land near the Illinois River basin, near our range, they were upset that folks had guns and get this, used them. Was much insanity for the county explaining it ain't Shit-town. Yeah, this is only going to get worse. |
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Quoted: I'll laugh my ass off if the internet blacklists Chicago and cuts them off. View Quote |
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Get ready for a shit-ton more things like that. Taxes are about to go way up there. People are going to leave because of it. Total tax receipts will go down. Place will still be fucked. If they want to fix this, they need to attract business, not run it out. View Quote Yep. Every time I hear local and state level tax increases, I argue they'll only bring tax revenue down. People with money and businesses will leave if the financial benefit is great enough. Along with better gun laws and weather, Tennessee found my $number, my annual house payments are lower than my MI income taxes were. |
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This story comes at the same time as the state legislature refused to bail out the Chicago public schools. A $600million contribution was due the teacher pension system last week. Money was not available, so the operating budget for next year was raided. 1,000 plus teachers got fired because there is now no money to pay them. Things are about to get nasty with the teachers union, and Rahm is desperate for cash.
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Welcome to illinois I don't live in Chicago and will be getting out of here soon I hate this state.
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Get ready for a shit-ton more things like that. Taxes are about to go way up there. People are going to leave because of it. Total tax receipts will go down. Place will still be fucked. If they want to fix this, they need to attract business, not run it out. View Quote They are literally too stupid to understand this. For years we've watched a fair number of Illinois businesses relocate across the state line into Wisconsin each time Chicago or Illinois comes up with a new tax - especially since Wisconsin became a "Right To Work" state, |
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The city council meetings are still free. I'm sure there's plenty of amusement to watch as they make idiots of themselves.
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To fix the overburdened union pensions, tax more. Yeah that will work, cause the assholes managed the money so well the first time around. Dump the unions and pensions. 401k matching deposits for individuals as long as they work and their retirement money will be there without any further issues. Of course. The dem party loses cash in that scenario, and the employees will retain it. View Quote Actually not. A 401k puts the risk on the person holding the 401k. A pension system does not entail that risk, unless the employer does not make his contributions. Which is what Chicago (and the State of Illinois) have been doing, not making pension payments. And if the employer does not make the contributions to a pension system, how is it they all of a sudden will to a 401k? Of course there are still plenty of social programs for the FSA being well funded in Chicago and Illinois. |
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All sorts of fuckheadetry to go around here.
The state constitution says you can't touch the pensions. Yes, downwards pension adjustments (not upward of course) are constitutionally protected here. Chicago is just doomed. Of course, the liberals will never learn from their utter disastrous mistakes, or those of other socialist havens (Greece), so it'll just keep getting worse all around the country. Chicago is just a warning of what's to come. |
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that tax revenue goes straight into the public sector union pension fund
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My favorite part about this is that all my of idiot liberal friends are bitching about it on facebook.
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My favorite part about this is that all my of idiot liberal friends are bitching about it on facebook. View Quote I'm sure my idiot liberal friends are doing the same thing. Except I wouldn't know for sure since I'm on a self-imposed FB hiatus. The liberal FB derp got too strong the past couple weeks. Needed a sanity break. (Are the rainbow pictures gone yet?) |
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It will be divided up so the "poor" can still get their netflix and the evil rich will subsidize it.
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This story comes at the same time as the state legislature refused to bail out the Chicago public schools. A $600million contribution was due the teacher pension system last week. Money was not available, so the operating budget for next year was raided. 1,000 plus teachers got fired because there is now no money to pay them. Things are about to get nasty with the teachers union, and Rahm is desperate for cash. View Quote Hole Lee Shat! That's unheard of numbers. Here they give out intent notices and then withdraw them. The ads the next year talk about the thousands of teachers given layoff notices ... but fail to mention not a single one was laid off ... and plea for more and more funding. |
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A lot of the big cities are going to have to do this, Chicago is just the first to step up to the plate. Once the precedence is set expect it to expand. Keep your powder dry, this is going to push people from the cities to the 'burbs and then the cities will have to push to tax the 'burbs. View Quote Been happening here for years. In addition to mentioning the whole collective right interpretation of the 2A if I could go back in time to the Constitutional Convention, I'd mention the urban mob that is warping the electoral process. While this was foreseen and addressed by the Electoral College, I'd suggest they require any city of over 1,000,000 to become a District, with an appropriate number of reps. More importantly they'd be disconnected from their original state, leaving the rest of the population alone. |
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My favorite part about this is that all my of idiot liberal friends are bitching about it on facebook. View Quote To liberals, their bright fucking ideas are supposed to affect everyone but them. I used to work with a liberal guy who drove 50 miles each way to work. He was always going on and on about how we needed to get rid of cars and live like the Indians did. Finally, I just said: " Hey Cochise , I don't see your fucking horse tied up out front, but I did see your truck in the parking lot". *crickets* |
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Chicago can join Detroit. Together they might be able to figure out how to extract tax revenue from empty and abandoned neighborhoods.
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I'll laugh my ass off if the internet blacklists Chicago and cuts them off. View Quote The FCC controls the Internet which means now BHO does, like they would do that to his old hood. While I agree this is a result of a socialist ideologically driven society to exploit any & all revenue sources. But at the same time it is really logical as it is a service that is being paid for & is being delivered to a resident of that area. I remember when some states started mandating sales tax on Internet purchases that are brought into their state. People raised a fit but it is the way it is. So long as people vote in people willing to exploit this revenue source, it will be exploited. & the final knowledge of Taxes is to give unto Cesar that which is Cesars'. |
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Quoted: I'm sure my idiot liberal friends are doing the same thing. Except I wouldn't know for sure since I'm on a self-imposed FB hiatus. The liberal FB derp got too strong the past couple weeks. Needed a sanity break. (Are the rainbow pictures gone yet?) View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: My favorite part about this is that all my of idiot liberal friends are bitching about it on facebook. I'm sure my idiot liberal friends are doing the same thing. Except I wouldn't know for sure since I'm on a self-imposed FB hiatus. The liberal FB derp got too strong the past couple weeks. Needed a sanity break. (Are the rainbow pictures gone yet?) |
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Quoted: The FCC controls the Internet which means now BHO does, like they would do that to his old hood. While I agree this is a result of a socialist ideologically driven society to exploit any & all revenue sources. But at the same time it is really logical as it is a service that is being paid for & is being delivered to a resident of that area. I remember when some states started mandating sales tax on Internet purchases that are brought into their state. People raised a fit but it is the way it is. So long as people vote in people willing to exploit this revenue source, it will be exploited. & the final knowledge of Taxes is to give unto Cesar that which is Cesars'. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: I'll laugh my ass off if the internet blacklists Chicago and cuts them off. The FCC controls the Internet which means now BHO does, like they would do that to his old hood. While I agree this is a result of a socialist ideologically driven society to exploit any & all revenue sources. But at the same time it is really logical as it is a service that is being paid for & is being delivered to a resident of that area. I remember when some states started mandating sales tax on Internet purchases that are brought into their state. People raised a fit but it is the way it is. So long as people vote in people willing to exploit this revenue source, it will be exploited. & the final knowledge of Taxes is to give unto Cesar that which is Cesars'. The truth is, properly written, a tax on renting movies even when those movies are delivered over the internet isn't necessarily bad (well, bad in the sense that you can't just keep on cranking up the tax rate when you are low on money...and bad because Netflix or whoever is just going to pass the cost on to the customer) what's bad is to do this they create a law that's so ridiculously broad |
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So you 'enjoy' NOT being on facebook huh? Well that's internet based entertainment, even if your entertainment comes from not participating. PAY YOUR TAXES ON NOT BEING ON FACEBOOK CHICAGO NEEDS THEM! View Quote It's not a tax, it's an "Individual Shared Responsibility Payment"... |
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Actually not. A 401k puts the risk on the person holding the 401k. A pension system does not entail that risk, unless the employer does not make his contributions. Which is what Chicago (and the State of Illinois) have been doing, not making pension payments. And if the employer does not make the contributions to a pension system, how is it they all of a sudden will to a 401k? Of course there are still plenty of social programs for the FSA being well funded in Chicago and Illinois. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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To fix the overburdened union pensions, tax more. Yeah that will work, cause the assholes managed the money so well the first time around. Dump the unions and pensions. 401k matching deposits for individuals as long as they work and their retirement money will be there without any further issues. Of course. The dem party loses cash in that scenario, and the employees will retain it. Actually not. A 401k puts the risk on the person holding the 401k. A pension system does not entail that risk, unless the employer does not make his contributions. Which is what Chicago (and the State of Illinois) have been doing, not making pension payments. And if the employer does not make the contributions to a pension system, how is it they all of a sudden will to a 401k? Of course there are still plenty of social programs for the FSA being well funded in Chicago and Illinois. The issue now is funding pensions for retirees that are already retired, not future retirees. Had a 401k been in place those employees would have their money today. Instead the city has no money to pay them for decades to come. And they would make the payments since the payment would be made while the employee was actively working. The payments to the 401k stop when the employee retires. |
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