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Posted: 6/30/2015 2:56:16 PM EDT
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Anyone know pricing info on these?
$600-800 and I am interested, $1,500+ forget it! |
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LOL "assault rifle" from the article. Assaulting trash cans since forever.
Kind of interested though. |
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They just licensed the name, they have 0 to do with Kalashnikov. Great marketing idea though.
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Yep.
No prices. With AR15 build prices being $400, these better be CHEAP or they ain't gon move. |
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The "modern rifle" http://mikedopp.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/06/clint-eastwood-disgusted-gif.gif View Quote This the only modern AK is the AK12 we were so close |
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US Palm magazines, and options that look like it got dragged kicking and screaming through a CAA catalog.
No thanks. Now, if they started to import AK 103 standard cap magazines, color me interested. |
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Maybe I have been out of the loop on newer versions of the AK, but what's up with the trigger guards on the standard AK pattern rifles in that catalog? The trigger guard bends back toward the stock and looks like it is riveted instead of meeting up with the mag release.
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Yep. No prices. With AR15 build prices being $400, these better be CHEAP or they ain't gon move. If you want a PTAC or similar. A regular PSA can be had for ~$600. Not a fan of the furniture. Looks cheap. If they wanted to modernize it they should have put better accessories. But I'd like a traditional Russian black polymer offering. |
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They just licensed the name, they have 0 to do with Kalashnikov. Great marketing idea though. That's even worse. They're making them to Saiga specs, when they can build them to real Russian AK specs right out of the factory. What a massive fucking fail. The whole point of making them retarded is to legally import them, then try to convert them to something resembling an AK-47 Why aren't they making AK-100 series? That's the only thing people would buy from them. |
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Maybe I have been out of the loop on newer versions of the AK, but what's up with the trigger guards on the standard AK pattern rifles in that catalog? The trigger guard bends back toward the stock and looks like it is riveted instead of meeting up with the mag release. View Quote Maybe it's my eyes, but everything looks weird on them. The muzzle brake looks wrong. No cleaning rod? No bayonet lug? All I wanted was an AK-74M in 5.45 and 7.62 |
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That's even worse. They're making them to Saiga specs, when they can build them to real Russian AK specs right out of the factory. What a massive fucking fail. The whole point of making them retarded is to legally import them, then try to convert them to something resembling an AK-47 Why aren't they making AK-100 series? That's the only thing people would buy from them. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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They just licensed the name, they have 0 to do with Kalashnikov. Great marketing idea though. That's even worse. They're making them to Saiga specs, when they can build them to real Russian AK specs right out of the factory. What a massive fucking fail. The whole point of making them retarded is to legally import them, then try to convert them to something resembling an AK-47 Why aren't they making AK-100 series? That's the only thing people would buy from them. The sporter models are nice for ban states. They used to be ~$350 which was a good price. Last I saw they were ~$700. If they can bring them down to $400 or so again I'd like to buy one as I live in CA. So no evil looking guns. But it would be nice to have a useful semi auto. |
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Yep. No prices. With AR15 build prices being $400, these better be CHEAP or they ain't gon move. There was a thread a while back on a $350 ish parts kit on brownells IIRC just needed to add your lower. The deals for very cheap builds are out there. |
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Yep. No prices. With AR15 build prices being $400, these better be CHEAP or they ain't gon move. PSA has had tons of rifle kits for $379 with free shipping the past couple weeks. Anderson lowers can currently be had for $39 and free shipping. Puts you at $418+transfer fee. |
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Maybe it's my eyes, but everything looks weird on them. The muzzle brake looks wrong. No cleaning rod? No bayonet lug? All I wanted was an AK-74M in 5.45 and 7.62 View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Maybe I have been out of the loop on newer versions of the AK, but what's up with the trigger guards on the standard AK pattern rifles in that catalog? The trigger guard bends back toward the stock and looks like it is riveted instead of meeting up with the mag release. Maybe it's my eyes, but everything looks weird on them. The muzzle brake looks wrong. No cleaning rod? No bayonet lug? All I wanted was an AK-74M in 5.45 and 7.62 Huh, what a bunch of bullshit. Now that you mentioned the lack of cleaning rod and bayo lug, the rifles featured in the action shots on the first few pages of the catalog aren't even fucking available to purchase. No side folders with an actual side folding trunnion. Seriously. They had one fucking job. Make a semi-auto AK clone in 7.62 and 5.56, and maybe a sporter/ban state Saiga. It's like they either are shipping in Saigas and converting them, or only have Saiga tooling and are doing AK conversions. |
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That's even worse. They're making them to Saiga specs, when they can build them to real Russian AK specs right out of the factory. What a massive fucking fail. The whole point of making them retarded is to legally import them, then try to convert them to something resembling an AK-47 Why aren't they making AK-100 series? That's the only thing people would buy from them. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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They just licensed the name, they have 0 to do with Kalashnikov. Great marketing idea though. That's even worse. They're making them to Saiga specs, when they can build them to real Russian AK specs right out of the factory. What a massive fucking fail. The whole point of making them retarded is to legally import them, then try to convert them to something resembling an AK-47 Why aren't they making AK-100 series? That's the only thing people would buy from them. Looks like they are still using Saigas as base rifles. |
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Huh, what a bunch of bullshit. Now that you mentioned the lack of cleaning rod and bayo lug, the rifles featured in the action shots on the first few pages of the catalog aren't even fucking available to purchase. No side folders with an actual side folding trunnion. Seriously. They had one fucking job. Make a semi-auto AK clone in 7.62 and 5.56, and maybe a sporter/ban state Saiga. It's like they either are shipping in Saigas and converting them, or only have Saiga tooling and are doing AK conversions. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Maybe I have been out of the loop on newer versions of the AK, but what's up with the trigger guards on the standard AK pattern rifles in that catalog? The trigger guard bends back toward the stock and looks like it is riveted instead of meeting up with the mag release. Maybe it's my eyes, but everything looks weird on them. The muzzle brake looks wrong. No cleaning rod? No bayonet lug? All I wanted was an AK-74M in 5.45 and 7.62 Huh, what a bunch of bullshit. Now that you mentioned the lack of cleaning rod and bayo lug, the rifles featured in the action shots on the first few pages of the catalog aren't even fucking available to purchase. No side folders with an actual side folding trunnion. Seriously. They had one fucking job. Make a semi-auto AK clone in 7.62 and 5.56, and maybe a sporter/ban state Saiga. It's like they either are shipping in Saigas and converting them, or only have Saiga tooling and are doing AK conversions. Agreed. If you want a higher end AK get the Galil ACE. |
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Made in America and still no side folder! People want side folder 103's and you give us fixed stock ban state shit.
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First off, there are no AK Barrels manufactured in the US that are CHF like the Saiga barrels, so that's a big strike against these. This company has never built anything and have been an importer only, so it remains to be seen what the quality will be. Also, they didn't license the Kalishnikov name, but rather hijacked it...
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Why is it that US magazine manufactures can't get it through their heads that we don't really want a super trick AK magazine, we would rather have one that looks like (and are as durable) the issue magazines. If Tapco ever decides to properly reinforce these magazines, I'll probably buy a case of them. http://www.slickguns.com/sites/default/files/TAPMAG0632ORN.jpg ETA: As it is, these are most likely more durable than those Circle 11 Radom magazines (of which I have a handful). View Quote Cost (and the majority of the market doesn't know or care). |
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Looking at their catalog I'm gonna have to say thanks but no thanks. Lots of fugliness going on there. Somebody will probably buy that stuff though. I'm good with my Polish, Bulgarian, Egyptian and Yugo AK's. American made doesn't always mean it's better.
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No 5.45?
Dammit I need a cheap 5.45 to burn up this 7N6 I got. :( |
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They just licensed the name, they have 0 to do with Kalashnikov. Great marketing idea though. Everyone can build a AK to Kalashnikov specs, and there are companies who have been doing here longer. Whatever the Russians consider a TDP is not a State Secret, and frankly you can build one better. |
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It would be nice if someone would make a Type 3A AK47 with a milled steel receiver. That I'd buy in a jiffy. https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/18/AK_47.JPG View Quote You mean like an Arsenal SAM7R? |
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First off, there are no AK Barrels manufactured in the US that are CHF like the Saiga barrels, so that's a big strike against these. This company has never built anything and have been an importer only, so it remains to be seen what the quality will be. Also, they didn't license the Kalishnikov name, but rather hijacked it... View Quote If I had to wager I'd bet their descriptions are bullshit and they are just unloading a bunch of Saiga stock that they waved a magic wand over to make "922r compliant". |
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In the Saiga's defense, they are AK-100 series rifles, just without the bayo lug or the proper muzzle brake. Mine lacks the magazine dimples, but those weren't ever necessary on the AK 100's, as the dimples were just a way to strengthen the AKM receiver. More importantly, they share the same bolt and carrier as the AK-100 series 7.62 rifles, which are different from the bolt and carrier from a 7.62x39 AKM. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Looks like they are still using Saigas as base rifles. In the Saiga's defense, they are AK-100 series rifles, just without the bayo lug or the proper muzzle brake. Mine lacks the magazine dimples, but those weren't ever necessary on the AK 100's, as the dimples were just a way to strengthen the AKM receiver. More importantly, they share the same bolt and carrier as the AK-100 series 7.62 rifles, which are different from the bolt and carrier from a 7.62x39 AKM. No reason to defend the pure Izhmash goodness that is a Saiga. I was commenting on the "American Made" description. |
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No reason to defend the pure Izhmash goodness that is a Saiga. I was commenting on the "American Made" description. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Looks like they are still using Saigas as base rifles. In the Saiga's defense, they are AK-100 series rifles, just without the bayo lug or the proper muzzle brake. Mine lacks the magazine dimples, but those weren't ever necessary on the AK 100's, as the dimples were just a way to strengthen the AKM receiver. More importantly, they share the same bolt and carrier as the AK-100 series 7.62 rifles, which are different from the bolt and carrier from a 7.62x39 AKM. No reason to defend the pure Izhmash goodness that is a Saiga. I was commenting on the "American Made" description. From what I understand, the "USA" Kalishnikov rifles are not "made" in the USA, just built off of current Saiga sporter rifles (like the old SGL-21's that Arsenal did were). A big give away in that PDF is that they ALL retain the factory sporter Saiga bolt hold open device (which can be seen in the trigger guard of my photo). To my knowledge, real AK 100's do not have those. |
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