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Posted: 6/29/2015 3:03:54 PM EDT
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USPSA Limited and Production - Yes.
ETA - practice, a lot. It is faster than closing one eye. Also, the USPSA official publication is named "The Front Sight" for a reason. If your focus isn't there, you are doing it wrong. |
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Posted: 6/29/2015 3:03:55 PM EDT
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First of all your if you are worried/focusing on the target downrange you are doing it wrong.
To answer the eye question: yes I keep both eyes open. |
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Posted: 6/29/2015 3:04:31 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: First of all your if you are worried/focusing on the target downrange you are doing it wrong. To answer the eye question: yes I keep both eyes open. ETA: It was pointed out to me early on that "self-scoring in real time" was a slow, and generally inaccurate approach. Call the shot from the sight picture, don't check the target in real time. |
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Posted: 6/29/2015 3:05:15 PM EDT
[#4]
yes...
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Posted: 6/29/2015 3:06:52 PM EDT
[#5]
IPSC shooter here: Yes
Skeet: Yes Rifles: Yes |
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Posted: 6/29/2015 3:08:19 PM EDT
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First of all your if you are worried/focusing on the target downrange you are doing it wrong. To answer the eye question: yes I keep both eyes open. I don't focus on the target, I hard focus on the front sight. I do need to check my hits though, as GADPA is scored differently and if I don't "eliminate the target" I get a huge penalty. I will try and keep both eyes open tonight, but still hard focus on the front sight. |
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Posted: 6/29/2015 3:08:27 PM EDT
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I shoot idpa (when time permits) I shoot both eyes open out to 10 or so yards past that I slow down and squint down on the sight. That's idpa though, we have a big down 0 zone. |
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Posted: 6/29/2015 3:09:24 PM EDT
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I shoot everything with both eyes open, since I learned to shoot by shooting trap.
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Posted: 6/29/2015 3:10:22 PM EDT
[#9]
I shoot with both eyes closed.
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Posted: 6/29/2015 3:10:52 PM EDT
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Fast 15 yards and in shots to COM I keep both eyes open.
Taking a headshot at 25 or a silhouette at 50, I close one eye. I went back and forth with this for years. Tried to keep both eyes open as that is what you are "suppose" to do. I finally said fuck it and did what works for me and Im shooting better than I ever have |
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Posted: 6/29/2015 3:11:18 PM EDT
[#11]
Yes, both eyes open.
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Posted: 6/29/2015 3:12:05 PM EDT
[#12]
Rifle- Yes
Trap/skeet- Yes Just now getting into pistol comp. and I don't see why I wouldn't. |
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Posted: 6/29/2015 3:12:17 PM EDT
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Hi guys, at the indoor matches I compete in I've realized that due to the lighting I have a hard time seeing my hits sometimes on the targets that are 10+ yards away. I think keeping both eyes open would help me see the hits a little more easily, so I was thinking of going both eyes open in tonight's match. I already shoot my rifles both eyes open, but I've never really thought about doing it with pistols also. Any of you guys go both eyes open with pistols? If so, any tips? Why are you concerned about seeing your "hits"? If you are training, you know POA/POI. You should be focusing on the front sight only, not the target. Both eyes open is faster and has nothing to do with focusing on the target to see where you're rounds are impacting. As far as having to see where you're hitting, I don't see why having both eyes open is going to make a huge difference at 10 yards unless you have terrible eyesight. |
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Posted: 6/29/2015 3:13:31 PM EDT
[#14]
IDPA both eyes.
Bullseye I actually wore a blinder on one eye. |
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Posted: 6/29/2015 3:13:48 PM EDT
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Both eyes open and spinning.
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Posted: 6/29/2015 3:16:04 PM EDT
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Why are you concerned about seeing your "hits"? If you are training, you know POA/POI. You should be focusing on the front sight only, not the target. Both eyes open is faster and has nothing to do with focusing on the target to see where you're rounds are impacting. As far as having to see where you're hitting, I don't see why having both eyes open is going to make a huge difference at 10 yards unless you have terrible eyesight. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Hi guys, at the indoor matches I compete in I've realized that due to the lighting I have a hard time seeing my hits sometimes on the targets that are 10+ yards away. I think keeping both eyes open would help me see the hits a little more easily, so I was thinking of going both eyes open in tonight's match. I already shoot my rifles both eyes open, but I've never really thought about doing it with pistols also. Any of you guys go both eyes open with pistols? If so, any tips? Why are you concerned about seeing your "hits"? If you are training, you know POA/POI. You should be focusing on the front sight only, not the target. Both eyes open is faster and has nothing to do with focusing on the target to see where you're rounds are impacting. As far as having to see where you're hitting, I don't see why having both eyes open is going to make a huge difference at 10 yards unless you have terrible eyesight. The rules have changed recently, and the target has to be "eliminated." I need to see the hits to know if I've eliminated the target. Depending on where you hit, this may take 1 or up to 3 shots. If the target is no eliminated, then a huge penalty is incurred. I know exactly where my gun hits, but just like all other human beings I sometimes miss. |
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Posted: 6/29/2015 3:16:17 PM EDT
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+1 to all. ETA: It was pointed out to me early on that "self-scoring in real time" was a slow, and generally inaccurate approach. Call the shot from the sight picture, don't check the target in real time. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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First of all your if you are worried/focusing on the target downrange you are doing it wrong. To answer the eye question: yes I keep both eyes open. ETA: It was pointed out to me early on that "self-scoring in real time" was a slow, and generally inaccurate approach. Call the shot from the sight picture, don't check the target in real time. Agreed completely. If you're looking for hits you're doing it wrong. You should be calling your shots based on where your front sight is when the shot breaks. Both eyes open for everything short of 50 yard head shots. |
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Posted: 6/29/2015 3:18:22 PM EDT
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Agreed completely. If you're looking for hits you're doing it wrong. You should be calling your shots based on where your front sight is when the shot breaks. Both eyes open for everything short of 50 yard head shots. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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First of all your if you are worried/focusing on the target downrange you are doing it wrong. To answer the eye question: yes I keep both eyes open. ETA: It was pointed out to me early on that "self-scoring in real time" was a slow, and generally inaccurate approach. Call the shot from the sight picture, don't check the target in real time. Agreed completely. If you're looking for hits you're doing it wrong. You should be calling your shots based on where your front sight is when the shot breaks. Both eyes open for everything short of 50 yard head shots. Normally I do. The rules change has me looking at the hits until I adjust. It's not scored like normal. If the target isn't "eliminated" by their rules then you incur a large penalty. If I'm off and not hitting EXACTLY where I'm aiming (say a center mass 0 shot) I may need 2 more shots to eliminate. If I don't see the shot and I was off, then I may get a big big penalty. |
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Posted: 6/29/2015 3:19:54 PM EDT
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I shoot with both eyes closed. In some scenarios if you have a solid shooting position and good natural point of aim shooting with both eyes closed is not that hard to shoot accurately.  
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Posted: 6/29/2015 3:20:38 PM EDT
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Yes. Both eyes open and work on not blinking. It takes time and practice to get your body trained to not blink at the sound of a shot, but it will help you shoot faster.
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Posted: 6/29/2015 3:20:56 PM EDT
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I will try both eyes open tonight and see how I do. Up close (around 5 yards and under) I always keep both open, but beyond that I tend to close my left eye. I'd like to train that out.
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Posted: 6/29/2015 3:22:04 PM EDT
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I shoot everything with both eyes open, since I learned to shoot by shooting trap. Same |
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Posted: 6/29/2015 3:23:02 PM EDT
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I will try both eyes open tonight and see how I do. Up close (around 5 yards and under) I always keep both open, but beyond that I tend to close my left eye. I'd like to train that out. I would practice first. I would not let a competition be the first attempt at both eyes open. Unless tonight is just practice. |
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Posted: 6/29/2015 3:23:24 PM EDT
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I will try both eyes open tonight and see how I do. Up close (around 5 yards and under) I always keep both open, but beyond that I tend to close my left eye. I'd like to train that out. No reason to try it for the first time at a match. Grab your pistol, verify it is unloaded, and bring it up for sight pictures for stuff around your house. Dry firing will make you better. |
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Posted: 6/29/2015 3:23:40 PM EDT
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Yes. If I need a touch more specific focus I slightly squint the other eye but never close.
You aren't suppose to look for your hits. You track your front sight. Weekly Shooting Challenge |
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Posted: 6/29/2015 3:24:18 PM EDT
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I would practice first. I would not let a competition be the first attempt at both eyes open. Unless tonight is just practice. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I will try both eyes open tonight and see how I do. Up close (around 5 yards and under) I always keep both open, but beyond that I tend to close my left eye. I'd like to train that out. I would practice first. I would not let a competition be the first attempt at both eyes open. Unless tonight is just practice. I was going to get a few minutes of trigger time in before the competition to try it out. If I don't feel comfortable I'll hold off and shoot like normal. Thanks guys! |
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Posted: 6/29/2015 3:25:28 PM EDT
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IDPA, and yes I keep both eyes open--but I do turn my head slightly.
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Posted: 6/29/2015 3:26:36 PM EDT
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No reason to try it for the first time at a match. Grab your pistol, verify it is unloaded, and bring it up for sight pictures for stuff around your house. Dry firing will make you better. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I will try both eyes open tonight and see how I do. Up close (around 5 yards and under) I always keep both open, but beyond that I tend to close my left eye. I'd like to train that out. No reason to try it for the first time at a match. Grab your pistol, verify it is unloaded, and bring it up for sight pictures for stuff around your house. Dry firing will make you better. Already working on that. 
When I focus on the front sight with both eyes open, obviously the target is doubled. That's going to take some getting used to. |
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Posted: 6/29/2015 3:29:09 PM EDT
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I was going to get a few minutes of trigger time in before the competition to try it out. If I don't feel comfortable I'll hold off and shoot like normal. Thanks guys! Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I will try both eyes open tonight and see how I do. Up close (around 5 yards and under) I always keep both open, but beyond that I tend to close my left eye. I'd like to train that out. I would practice first. I would not let a competition be the first attempt at both eyes open. Unless tonight is just practice. I was going to get a few minutes of trigger time in before the competition to try it out. If I don't feel comfortable I'll hold off and shoot like normal. Thanks guys! It won't feel comfortable for some time. |
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Posted: 6/29/2015 3:29:20 PM EDT
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I keep both eyes open with rifles, handguns, and shotguns. The only exception, and that's not even 100%, is when using a higher-powered rifle scope.
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Posted: 6/29/2015 3:35:26 PM EDT
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Already working on that.
When I focus on the front sight with both eyes open, obviously the target is doubled. That's going to take some getting used to. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I will try both eyes open tonight and see how I do. Up close (around 5 yards and under) I always keep both open, but beyond that I tend to close my left eye. I'd like to train that out. No reason to try it for the first time at a match. Grab your pistol, verify it is unloaded, and bring it up for sight pictures for stuff around your house. Dry firing will make you better. Already working on that.
When I focus on the front sight with both eyes open, obviously the target is doubled. That's going to take some getting used to. You have to learn to ignore one. After some practice you won't even notice it. |
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Posted: 6/29/2015 3:36:18 PM EDT
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Posted: 6/29/2015 3:38:08 PM EDT
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Both eyes open and spinning. That you, Sonny? |
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Posted: 6/29/2015 3:53:50 PM EDT
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There was a time, years ago, when I competed in IPSC. After a while I was able to shoot with both eyes open, but I was also practicing 2-3 x a week.
For a short time, I used a piece of cellophane tape on my shooting glasses to get the benefit before I could consistently keep both open and acquire the front sight. m |
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Posted: 6/29/2015 4:45:13 PM EDT
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You have to learn to ignore one. After some practice you won't even notice it. I've been trying for years, and still can't do it. The dominance of my right eye over the left is very weak. I sometimes even catch myself sighting with my left, if both eyes are open. I can get decent times on familiar courses with both eyes open, but I am still a lot faster, and more consistent, if I squint my left. |
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Posted: 6/29/2015 4:46:37 PM EDT
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YES
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Posted: 6/29/2015 4:46:38 PM EDT
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In some scenarios if you have a solid shooting position and good natural point of aim shooting with both eyes closed is not that hard to shoot accurately. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I shoot with both eyes closed. In some scenarios if you have a solid shooting position and good natural point of aim shooting with both eyes closed is not that hard to shoot accurately. I was blind the whole time
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Posted: 6/29/2015 4:47:18 PM EDT
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I've been trying for years, and still can't do it. The dominance of my right eye over the left is very weak. I sometimes even catch myself sighting with my left, if both eyes are open. I can get decent times on familiar courses with both eyes open, but I am still a lot faster, and more consistent, if I squint my left. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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You have to learn to ignore one. After some practice you won't even notice it. I've been trying for years, and still can't do it. The dominance of my right eye over the left is very weak. I sometimes even catch myself sighting with my left, if both eyes are open. I can get decent times on familiar courses with both eyes open, but I am still a lot faster, and more consistent, if I squint my left. I'm in exactly the same boat. Most of the quick/dirty "eye dominance" tests don't even work for me. I too have learned to "squint" my left eye instead of closing it altogether. |
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Posted: 6/29/2015 4:49:52 PM EDT
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Yes- but I stopped competition shooting and focus only on tactical training and fighting with the weapons now
but you can accomplish a lot of your training with your weapon unloaded and dry firing. This will help a lot with aiming with both eyes open and at no cost to your wallet !!!!!!
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Posted: 6/29/2015 4:50:55 PM EDT
[#40]
yes. both eyes open
I had a blinder for my left eye though (when I shot competition), but I don't need it. |
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Posted: 6/29/2015 4:53:30 PM EDT
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Yes- but I stopped competition shooting and focus only on tactical training and fighting with the weapons now So, just how badly did you get beaten at your first (and last) few matches? 
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Posted: 6/29/2015 5:08:11 PM EDT
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I'm in exactly the same boat. Most of the quick/dirty "eye dominance" tests don't even work for me. I too have learned to "squint" my left eye instead of closing it altogether. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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You have to learn to ignore one. After some practice you won't even notice it. I've been trying for years, and still can't do it. The dominance of my right eye over the left is very weak. I sometimes even catch myself sighting with my left, if both eyes are open. I can get decent times on familiar courses with both eyes open, but I am still a lot faster, and more consistent, if I squint my left. I'm in exactly the same boat. Most of the quick/dirty "eye dominance" tests don't even work for me. I too have learned to "squint" my left eye instead of closing it altogether. Quoted:
There was a time, years ago, when I competed in IPSC. After a while I was able to shoot with both eyes open, but I was also practicing 2-3 x a week. For a short time, I used a piece of cellophane tape on my shooting glasses to get the benefit before I could consistently keep both open and acquire the front sight. Warp_foo has the correct fix. Start with a target paster or small piece of masking tape blocking the non-aiming eye's view of the sights but allowing peripheral vision. Gradually reduce the size of the tape over multiple shooting sessions so that just the central part of the non-aiming eye is blocked. Test progress with Scotch tape which blurs the non-aiming eye and eventually you'll have trained your brain to ignore the ghost sight image of the non-aiming eye while still using it for binocular distance vision and peripheral vision. |
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Posted: 6/29/2015 5:25:43 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I'm in exactly the same boat. Most of the quick/dirty "eye dominance" tests don't even work for me. I too have learned to "squint" my left eye instead of closing it altogether. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: You have to learn to ignore one. After some practice you won't even notice it. I've been trying for years, and still can't do it. The dominance of my right eye over the left is very weak. I sometimes even catch myself sighting with my left, if both eyes are open. I can get decent times on familiar courses with both eyes open, but I am still a lot faster, and more consistent, if I squint my left. I'm in exactly the same boat. Most of the quick/dirty "eye dominance" tests don't even work for me. I too have learned to "squint" my left eye instead of closing it altogether.  .... So I moved to OPEN so i can look through my Red-Dot.
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Posted: 6/29/2015 5:39:39 PM EDT
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I've been trying for years, and still can't do it. The dominance of my right eye over the left is very weak. I sometimes even catch myself sighting with my left, if both eyes are open. I can get decent times on familiar courses with both eyes open, but I am still a lot faster, and more consistent, if I squint my left. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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You have to learn to ignore one. After some practice you won't even notice it. I've been trying for years, and still can't do it. The dominance of my right eye over the left is very weak. I sometimes even catch myself sighting with my left, if both eyes are open. I can get decent times on familiar courses with both eyes open, but I am still a lot faster, and more consistent, if I squint my left. I know a guy that just uses his left eye to align the sights while shooting right handed. I shot with him for awhile before I noticed him cocking his head over to one side. |
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Posted: 6/29/2015 5:43:19 PM EDT
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I'm in exactly the same boat. Most of the quick/dirty "eye dominance" tests don't even work for me. I too have learned to "squint" my left eye instead of closing it altogether. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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You have to learn to ignore one. After some practice you won't even notice it. I've been trying for years, and still can't do it. The dominance of my right eye over the left is very weak. I sometimes even catch myself sighting with my left, if both eyes are open. I can get decent times on familiar courses with both eyes open, but I am still a lot faster, and more consistent, if I squint my left. I'm in exactly the same boat. Most of the quick/dirty "eye dominance" tests don't even work for me. I too have learned to "squint" my left eye instead of closing it altogether. I actually switched. I went through the police academy in 2005 and was deemed left eye dominant. I trained and practiced shooting right handed with both eyes open over the next few years. Somewhere around 2010 or 2011 I was showing someone how to do the eye dominance test and I was right eye dominant. I don't know if there is a medical reason for it or what but I figure I just got used to focusing on things with my right eye. |
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Posted: 6/29/2015 5:49:39 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I don't focus on the target, I hard focus on the front sight. I do need to check my hits though, as GADPA is scored differently and if I don't "eliminate the target" I get a huge penalty. I will try and keep both eyes open tonight, but still hard focus on the front sight. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: First of all your if you are worried/focusing on the target downrange you are doing it wrong. To answer the eye question: yes I keep both eyes open. I don't focus on the target, I hard focus on the front sight. I do need to check my hits though, as GADPA is scored differently and if I don't "eliminate the target" I get a huge penalty. I will try and keep both eyes open tonight, but still hard focus on the front sight. Shoot correctly and your score will be better. Focus on your score and your shooting will suffer. |
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Posted: 6/29/2015 10:11:40 PM EDT
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The PROPER way to shoot is with both eyes open, focus on the front sight.
When I was competing as a kid (13 to 17), I shot two eyes open. After college, I got back into shooting around age 23 and found that I my eyes had changed. If I kept both eyes open, I ended up with double images of the target (and rear sight), and I had no idea which too shoot. Closing an eye solved the double image problem (and cut my group sizes in half). For a while I was closing one eye, lining up the sights/target, then opening both eyes to squeeze the trigger. As soon as I got into action shooting I just close my left eye at the start of a stage and keep it closed till the end. In my case: 
If I'm using a red dot on my dominant side I'll still shoot both eyes open, but for irons (or shooting lefty with a aimpoint on a rifle) I'll close an eye. Figure out what works for you and do it. Everyone's eyes are different. ETA: I'm not exactly sure what I do with shotguns. I got into the habit of closing one eye when drawing a pistol to the point I don't even think about it, and I can't recall what I did the last time I got to shoot trap (other than having a shitload of fun). |
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Posted: 6/29/2015 10:14:31 PM EDT
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Both eyes open. All day long.
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Posted: 6/29/2015 10:14:43 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: First of all your if you are worried/focusing on the target downrange you are doing it wrong. To answer the eye question: yes I keep both eyes open. And I did shoot clays competitively |
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Posted: 6/29/2015 10:15:29 PM EDT
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Control of the trigger is actually the most important.....
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