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Posted: 7/2/2015 5:07:07 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: My photos from last night http://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/226828/78247.JPG http://www.ar15.com/media/viewFile.html?i=78248 |
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Posted: 7/2/2015 7:44:54 PM EDT
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I was able to see it, very cool!
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Posted: 7/2/2015 9:24:10 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Did we miss the merge on 6/30? Venus has always been to my right with Jupiter to the left. Given we are in the same hemisphere you would see it similar Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: My photos from last night http://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/226828/78247.JPG http://www.ar15.com/media/viewFile.html?i=78248 Yes it was cloudy on 6/30. I tried but never saw them. Venus was on left for me. |
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Posted: 7/3/2015 12:02:05 AM EDT
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Thunderstorms rolled through on the 30th but things fortunately cleared up by nightfall. With my 4.5" Celestron I was able to get both to appear in my 9mm eyepiece. One probably could have used a bit more magnification and still have gotten both in view, but when they are on the edges like that it's not as pleasant a viewing experience.
The previous evening I could only get them both in a 25mm eyepiece. Interestingly, using the 20mm eyepiece to start, I couldn't quite get both in view. If I got most of Jupiter in view I could just see the glow emanating from Venus. By the time the two were about to hit the tree line, I could get parts of both in view with the 20mm eyepiece at the same time. I do wish I could have taken pictures. I still need to get a T-mount and a remote trigger for the shutter, as well as a tracking motor for my mount. I also need to figure out what kind of film would be the best out of what's currently in production. |
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Posted: 7/4/2015 4:18:18 AM EDT
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Posted: 7/4/2015 6:58:31 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: While the Venus-Jupiter conjunction is the likely explanation to the SoB, the big deal that peaked the Magi's interest 2000 years ago wasn't just the conjunction, it was how Jupiter behaved, and what houses (constellations) it passed through on the way. It passed near Regulus (the smaller star you see in the pics to the left of Venus/Jupiter), then went retrograde and passed a second time, then went forward again and passed a third time, all in the constellation of Leo (the Lion). Also, the new moon rose in Virgo (the Virgin), see Rev. 12:1. Then both Jupiter and Venus conjoined to appear as a single bright star. |
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Posted: 7/4/2015 7:46:20 PM EDT
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While the Venus-Jupiter conjunction is the likely explanation to the SoB, the big deal that peaked the Magi's interest 2000 years ago wasn't just the conjunction, it was how Jupiter behaved, and what houses (constellations) it passed through on the way. Wait, based on what? |
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Posted: 7/4/2015 7:49:09 PM EDT
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Nice picture.
Now run the Stelarium to 23 September 2017. Then read Revelation 12:1-2. Get a good night's sleep. |
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Posted: 7/4/2015 8:01:07 PM EDT
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Nice picture. Now run the Stelarium to 23 September 2017. Then read Revelation 12:1-2. Get a good night's sleep. Hitlery? |
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Posted: 7/4/2015 8:02:15 PM EDT
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Hitlery? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Nice picture. Now run the Stelarium to 23 September 2017. Then read Revelation 12:1-2. Get a good night's sleep. Hitlery? Yeah I'd like a synopsis too. |
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Posted: 7/4/2015 9:22:38 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Yeah I'd like a synopsis too. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Nice picture. Now run the Stelarium to 23 September 2017. Then read Revelation 12:1-2. Get a good night's sleep. Hitlery? Yeah I'd like a synopsis too. Here y'all go:
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Posted: 7/4/2015 10:11:03 PM EDT
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Revelation 12 King James Version (KJV)
12 And there appeared a great wonder in heaven; a woman clothed with the sun, and the moon under her feet, and upon her head a crown of twelve stars: 2 And she being with child cried, travailing in birth, and pained to be delivered. |
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Posted: 7/4/2015 10:45:15 PM EDT
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The woman in Revelation 12 is a metaphor for the nation of Israel and her child is Christ, whom Satan could not destroy and who was caught up to heaven. The reference to the sun, moon, and stars is a direct reference to Joseph's dream. But note that the events in 2017 are in the constellation Virgo, the Virgin.
Reference Genesis 37. Jacob interprets the sun and moon to be himself and Joseph's mother, the stars are Joseph's brothers. 1 Now Jacob lived in the land where his father had sojourned, in the land of Canaan. 2 These are the records of
Joseph, when seventeen years of age, was pasturing the flock with his brothers while he was still a youth, along with the sons of Bilhah and the sons of Zilpah, his father’s wives. And Joseph brought back a bad report about them to their father. 3 Now Israel loved Joseph more than all his sons, because he was the son of his old age; and he made him a varicolored tunic. 4 His brothers saw that their father loved him more than all his brothers; and so they hated him and could not speak to him on friendly terms. 5 Then Joseph had a dream, and when he told it to his brothers, they hated him even more. 6 He said to them, "Please listen to this dream which I have had; 7 for behold, we were binding sheaves in the field, and lo, my sheaf rose up and also stood erect; and behold, your sheaves gathered around and bowed down to my sheaf.” 8 Then his brothers said to him, "Are you actually going to reign over us? Or are you really going to rule over us?” So they hated him even more for his dreams and for his words. 9 Now he had still another dream, and related it to his brothers, and said, "Lo, I have had still another dream; and behold, the sun and the moon and eleven stars were bowing down to me.” 10 He related it to his father and to his brothers; and his father rebuked him and said to him, "What is this dream that you have had? Shall I and your mother and your brothers actually come to bow ourselves down before you to the ground?” 11 His brothers were jealous of him, but his father kept the saying in mind |
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Posted: 7/4/2015 10:53:45 PM EDT
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See what happens when you cut and paste?
I know the metaphor regarding Jacob, but it's still an interesting coincidence. Although if Israel goes into hiding in two years that's means pre-trib is already out. ETA: assuming the events on Rev. 12 are in immediate succession and not an overview of the entire trib. |
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Posted: 7/4/2015 11:04:58 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I've seen Dr. Larson speak on this several times - really fascinating topic. |
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