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Posted: 1/16/2015 11:07:39 PM EDT
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Weaknesses? They didn't come stock in 1/2 of the cars that people put them in.
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Posted: 1/16/2015 11:12:19 PM EDT
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Pretty stout motor. Very good baseline in stock form. Easy HP gains with just intake/exhaust combo. Add heads and cam and 400+ wheel HP is possible. Aftermarket support is endless at the moment. Has a tendency to burn oil through the PCV system. Piston slap is a common complaint. It sounds like knocking but is supposedly the hypereutectic pistons expanding and doesnt actually harm the engine. I have a 99 trans am and it has piston slap. I hate it but no problems yet. I let the car warm up until I dont hear it anymore. While people say its no biggy I cant bring myself to drive it under those conditions. |
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Posted: 1/16/2015 11:14:47 PM EDT
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http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o180/RPM_CamaroZ/ls1god.jpg Pretty stout motor. Very good baseline in stock form. Easy HP gains with just intake/exhaust combo. Add heads and cam and 400+ wheel HP is possible. Aftermarket support is endless at the moment. Has a tendency to burn oil through the PCV system. Piston slap is a common complaint. It sounds like knocking but is supposedly the hypereutectic pistons expanding and doesnt actually harm the engine. I have a 99 trans am and it has piston slap. I hate it but no problems yet. I let the car warm up until I dont hear it anymore. While people say its no biggy I cant bring myself to drive it under those conditions. Add a catch can. Are you sure it isn't the lifters making a little racket? |
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Posted: 1/16/2015 11:17:00 PM EDT
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Sledgehammer reliable. Cheap to modify, take boost, and juice well. Solid bottom end. Simple design, no dohc BS.
Aftermarket support like a 1911. It was/is the game changer. You cant fuck with LS engines. There is NOTHING in the realm of internal combustion engines that can compete with them on the street, even at twice the cost. Unless your going for nostalgia, even a junkyard LS-whatever will crush pretty much anything. If your doing a project whatever, your ignoring the facts by NOT using a LS based powerplant. |
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Posted: 1/16/2015 11:18:07 PM EDT
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Large after market support for them.
I've been sorta looking for a good deal on a used LQ4 for a future project. |
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Posted: 1/16/2015 11:18:50 PM EDT
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http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o180/RPM_CamaroZ/ls1god.jpg Pretty stout motor. Very good baseline in stock form. Easy HP gains with just intake/exhaust combo. Add heads and cam and 400+ wheel HP is possible. Aftermarket support is endless at the moment. Has a tendency to burn oil through the PCV system. Piston slap is a common complaint. It sounds like knocking but is supposedly the hypereutectic pistons expanding and doesnt actually harm the engine. I have a 99 trans am and it has piston slap. I hate it but no problems yet. I let the car warm up until I dont hear it anymore. While people say its no biggy I cant bring myself to drive it under those conditions. Add a catch can. Yep, standard add on for a non stock LS motor. Very stout motors. Reasonably cheap HP. Adding a turbo will leave streaks on the road and in the seat. 
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Posted: 1/16/2015 11:18:50 PM EDT
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Only thing better than an LS1 is a LS2 or 3.....
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Posted: 1/16/2015 11:20:09 PM EDT
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Best gasoline powered engines ever.
Anyone who disagrees lives in fantasy land. |
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Posted: 1/16/2015 11:20:13 PM EDT
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Cant go wrong with an LS1
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Posted: 1/16/2015 11:21:18 PM EDT
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There are rough;y a million billion parts for that family of motors.
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Posted: 1/16/2015 11:21:22 PM EDT
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Add a catch can. Are you sure it isn't the lifters making a little racket? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o180/RPM_CamaroZ/ls1god.jpg Pretty stout motor. Very good baseline in stock form. Easy HP gains with just intake/exhaust combo. Add heads and cam and 400+ wheel HP is possible. Aftermarket support is endless at the moment. Has a tendency to burn oil through the PCV system. Piston slap is a common complaint. It sounds like knocking but is supposedly the hypereutectic pistons expanding and doesnt actually harm the engine. I have a 99 trans am and it has piston slap. I hate it but no problems yet. I let the car warm up until I dont hear it anymore. While people say its no biggy I cant bring myself to drive it under those conditions. Add a catch can. Are you sure it isn't the lifters making a little racket? Nope. It's piston slap. The lifters usually last a while. The rod bolts are the weakest links in the engine. A cam, full exhaust, lid and ls6 intake or FAST intake will put you mid 400hp to the tires. |
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Posted: 1/16/2015 11:21:48 PM EDT
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I was always disappointed by the lack of low end torque in my LS1 car. My only gripe.
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Posted: 1/16/2015 11:21:51 PM EDT
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Add a catch can. Are you sure it isn't the lifters making a little racket? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o180/RPM_CamaroZ/ls1god.jpg Pretty stout motor. Very good baseline in stock form. Easy HP gains with just intake/exhaust combo. Add heads and cam and 400+ wheel HP is possible. Aftermarket support is endless at the moment. Has a tendency to burn oil through the PCV system. Piston slap is a common complaint. It sounds like knocking but is supposedly the hypereutectic pistons expanding and doesnt actually harm the engine. I have a 99 trans am and it has piston slap. I hate it but no problems yet. I let the car warm up until I dont hear it anymore. While people say its no biggy I cant bring myself to drive it under those conditions. Add a catch can. Are you sure it isn't the lifters making a little racket? x2 on the catch can. I run conventional oil and change every 3k now that i commute with it 150 miles daily, so I don't lose much. When I was going with longer change intervals I'd lose over a quart. The sound mine makes is almost like a knocking, its definitely not my lifters. Goes away like clockwork once it warms up a bit. |
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Posted: 1/16/2015 11:22:34 PM EDT
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I was always disappointed by the lack of low end torque in my LS1 car. My only gripe. Compared to what, a turbodiesel? |
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Posted: 1/16/2015 11:22:53 PM EDT
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Nope. It's piston slap. The lifters usually last a while. The rod bolts are the weakest links in the engine. A cam, full exhaust, lid and ls6 intake or FAST intake will put you mid 400hp to the tires. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o180/RPM_CamaroZ/ls1god.jpg Pretty stout motor. Very good baseline in stock form. Easy HP gains with just intake/exhaust combo. Add heads and cam and 400+ wheel HP is possible. Aftermarket support is endless at the moment. Has a tendency to burn oil through the PCV system. Piston slap is a common complaint. It sounds like knocking but is supposedly the hypereutectic pistons expanding and doesnt actually harm the engine. I have a 99 trans am and it has piston slap. I hate it but no problems yet. I let the car warm up until I dont hear it anymore. While people say its no biggy I cant bring myself to drive it under those conditions. Add a catch can. Are you sure it isn't the lifters making a little racket? Nope. It's piston slap. The lifters usually last a while. The rod bolts are the weakest links in the engine. A cam, full exhaust, lid and ls6 intake or FAST intake will put you mid 400hp to the tires. True. ARP has a fix for that. We have managed to stretch head bolts on them too.
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Posted: 1/16/2015 11:22:57 PM EDT
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Actually it is money well spent to move up to the same architecture but more power with the LS6.
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Posted: 1/16/2015 11:23:40 PM EDT
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God's gift to the automotive world. Cheap, fairly compact and lightweight, tons of aftermarket support.
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Posted: 1/16/2015 11:23:42 PM EDT
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Only thing better than an LS1 is a LS2 or 3LSX.... Love mine.... Fixed 
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Posted: 1/16/2015 11:24:57 PM EDT
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Had a 2000 Camaro ss.
As a dumb 20 something at the time, I abused the dog shit out of that car, changed the oil every 7,000 miles or more. Only thing I ever had to replace was a fuel pump. ..... |
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Posted: 1/16/2015 11:25:45 PM EDT
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Large after market support for them. I've been sorta looking for a good deal on a used LQ4 for a future project. This. LQ4 + Hairdryers + 60s Buick = FUN! Also pondering doing an LS1 in my toyota 4x4 instead of a Lexus 1UZ. I see no downsides and all up (other then not keeping it all Toyota) |
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Posted: 1/16/2015 11:26:28 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o180/RPM_CamaroZ/ls1god.jpg Pretty stout motor. Very good baseline in stock form. Easy HP gains with just intake/exhaust combo. Add heads and cam and 400+ wheel HP is possible. Aftermarket support is endless at the moment. Has a tendency to burn oil through the PCV system. Piston slap is a common complaint. It sounds like knocking but is supposedly the hypereutectic pistons expanding and doesnt actually harm the engine. I have a 99 trans am and it has piston slap. I hate it but no problems yet. I let the car warm up until I dont hear it anymore. While people say its no biggy I cant bring myself to drive it under those conditions. ... good post, please buy a membership
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Posted: 1/16/2015 11:26:37 PM EDT
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Actually it is money well spent to move up to the same architecture but more power with the LS6. 15hp at best with a LS6. Best thing to do is find a lq4 and add some ported ls6 heads and a nice camshaft. |
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Posted: 1/16/2015 11:27:36 PM EDT
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I was always disappointed by the lack of low end torque in my LS1 car. My only gripe. Compared to what, a turbodiesel? Lack of torque with an LS? 
This used to be a powerglide. 
And you can put them in nearly anything. 
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Posted: 1/16/2015 11:28:07 PM EDT
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I was always disappointed by the lack of low end torque in my LS1 car. My only gripe. The right tune or cam would solve that problem easily. |
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Posted: 1/16/2015 11:29:00 PM EDT
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This. LQ4 + Hairdryers + 60s Buick = FUN! Also pondering doing an LS1 in my toyota 4x4 instead of a Lexus 1UZ. I see no downsides and all up (other then not keeping it all Toyota) Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Large after market support for them. I've been sorta looking for a good deal on a used LQ4 for a future project. This. LQ4 + Hairdryers + 60s Buick = FUN! Also pondering doing an LS1 in my toyota 4x4 instead of a Lexus 1UZ. I see no downsides and all up (other then not keeping it all Toyota) I'm also looking for a mid 90's Chevy Caprice wagon. I want to bomb the interstate in comfort and have plenty of room for the K-9 unit. |
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Posted: 1/16/2015 11:29:35 PM EDT
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I was always disappointed by the lack of low end torque in my LS1 car. My only gripe. Compared to what, a turbodiesel? Previously had older TPI cars, that felt like torque monster off idle. Obviously my C5 was much faster, but it felt like it took higher RPM to get it to wake up. Even my little Focus ST feels torquier down low.. obviously the vette was faster in every way. Dyno graphs say I'm crazy.. but the vette just felt a little lame down low, then would rip the tires loose and get crazy at about 4k. |
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Posted: 1/16/2015 11:30:02 PM EDT
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pro: tons of parts for it
con: it is not a pontiac V8
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Posted: 1/16/2015 11:30:23 PM EDT
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Actually it is money well spent to move up to the same architecture but more power with the LS6. If you're going to upgrade then its not worth the extra money at all. 00-02 LS1 engines were upgraded to LS6 intakes from the factory so they are that much closer. Hell you can build a 5.3 ls from a truck using LS1 parts and have a very strong albeit heavy motor for less than starting with the original LS1 |
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Posted: 1/16/2015 11:30:33 PM EDT
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LS / vortec .... made from real tornados
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Posted: 1/16/2015 11:34:13 PM EDT
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And I'm sure that's all from a stock LS1 just like mine was lol Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I was always disappointed by the lack of low end torque in my LS1 car. My only gripe. Compared to what, a turbodiesel? Lack of torque with an LS? http:// http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c83/goodnbuzzd/MISC/IMG_20140713_144852_163_zps75db798a.jpg This used to be a powerglide. http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c83/goodnbuzzd/Mobile%20Uploads/IMG_20141018_121532_470_zpse142b89a.jpg And you can put them in nearly anything.
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c83/goodnbuzzd/MISC/Mustang%20Notch/IMG_20150103_193134_191_zpsf6d92c79.jpg And I'm sure that's all from a stock LS1 just like mine was lol Actually.... Yes. It was a stock motor... With a hair dryer on it.
It was a 6.0 with a cam and ARP fasteners and a big turbo. It aint stock anymore.
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Posted: 1/16/2015 11:34:22 PM EDT
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Theyve been swapped into about everything. As you can imagine, the aftermarket support for them is huge.
What vehicle do you want to drop one into? |
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Posted: 1/16/2015 11:34:42 PM EDT
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15hp at best with a LS6. Best thing to do is find a lq4 and add some ported ls6 heads and a nice camshaft. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Actually it is money well spent to move up to the same architecture but more power with the LS6. 15hp at best with a LS6. Best thing to do is find a lq4 and add some ported ls6 heads and a nice camshaft. From 325 to 405.....you do the math. And that 405 can be upped to 525 RWHP with the proper mods, all motor. And if you want to go all the way with the LS series try the 496 Warhawk tall deck and let your pocket book be your guide. And I agree the LT seems to have more low end torque. |
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Posted: 1/16/2015 11:36:41 PM EDT
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Have been looking for one for years that I can take it from a 346 to a 383. When I find one I want to put it in a 68 camaro or 70 Chevelle. Or just stick it in a 2000-2001 camaro.
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Posted: 1/16/2015 11:38:34 PM EDT
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I was always disappointed by the lack of low end torque in my LS1 car. My only gripe. Compared to what, a turbodiesel? Lack of torque with an LS? http:// http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c83/goodnbuzzd/MISC/IMG_20140713_144852_163_zps75db798a.jpg This used to be a powerglide. http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c83/goodnbuzzd/Mobile%20Uploads/IMG_20141018_121532_470_zpse142b89a.jpg And you can put them in nearly anything.
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c83/goodnbuzzd/MISC/Mustang%20Notch/IMG_20150103_193134_191_zpsf6d92c79.jpg And I'm sure that's all from a stock LS1 just like mine was lol Stock LS1's were known to crack sunshells early on. Pretty much everyone i know has had a rear end grenade on them. My pinion chewed itself apart at 50k. |
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Posted: 1/16/2015 11:39:35 PM EDT
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The modern sbc. In more ways than one.
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Posted: 1/16/2015 11:40:46 PM EDT
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Have been looking for one for years that I can take it from a 350 to a 383. When I find one I want to put it in a 68 camero or 70 Chevelle. Or just stick it in a 2000-2001 camero. Wrong, wrong, and wrong. |
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Posted: 1/16/2015 11:40:56 PM EDT
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Stock LS1's were known to crack sunshells early on. Pretty much everyone i know has had a rear end grenade on them. My pinion chewed itself apart at 50k. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I was always disappointed by the lack of low end torque in my LS1 car. My only gripe. Compared to what, a turbodiesel? Lack of torque with an LS? http:// http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c83/goodnbuzzd/MISC/IMG_20140713_144852_163_zps75db798a.jpg This used to be a powerglide. http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c83/goodnbuzzd/Mobile%20Uploads/IMG_20141018_121532_470_zpse142b89a.jpg And you can put them in nearly anything.
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c83/goodnbuzzd/MISC/Mustang%20Notch/IMG_20150103_193134_191_zpsf6d92c79.jpg And I'm sure that's all from a stock LS1 just like mine was lol Stock LS1's were known to crack sunshells early on. Pretty much everyone i know has had a rear end grenade on them. My pinion chewed itself apart at 50k. The 10 bolt rear in the f-bodies was known to be dogshit. It was a weak point across at least two generations of the car. Your buddies grenading rears was more about the shitty 10 bolt than the awesomeness of the LS1. |
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Posted: 1/16/2015 11:41:07 PM EDT
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Heh, I have a spare L33 kicking around that I'm trying to figure out what to do with.
Just looked on ebay and some guys are wanting 3 grand for used ones, I guess with the aluminum block and LS6 heads they are pretty desirable in the hot rodding market. Would love to put one in an old F-body Camaro. One of our apprentices did a swap from a 305 to an LSxx and went old school... 
I really like it, but his choice of donor car had me puzzled but he just wanted to do something different. He loves blowing the doors off of guys that taunt him..LOL 
I really like the kid ! |
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Posted: 1/16/2015 11:41:59 PM EDT
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Have been looking for one for years that I can take it from a 350 to a 383. When I find one I want to put it in a 68 camero or 70 Chevelle. Or just stick it in a 2000-2001 camero. Wrong, wrong, and wrong. 
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Posted: 1/16/2015 11:43:51 PM EDT
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Previously had older TPI cars, that felt like torque monster off idle. Obviously my C5 was much faster, but it felt like it took higher RPM to get it to wake up. Even my little Focus ST feels torquier down low.. obviously the vette was faster in every way. Dyno graphs say I'm crazy.. but the vette just felt a little lame down low, then would rip the tires loose and get crazy at about 4k. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I was always disappointed by the lack of low end torque in my LS1 car. My only gripe. Compared to what, a turbodiesel? Previously had older TPI cars, that felt like torque monster off idle. Obviously my C5 was much faster, but it felt like it took higher RPM to get it to wake up. Even my little Focus ST feels torquier down low.. obviously the vette was faster in every way. Dyno graphs say I'm crazy.. but the vette just felt a little lame down low, then would rip the tires loose and get crazy at about 4k. TPI's were definitely torque monsters for their time. A product of the ridiculously long intake tract. Something like 30" from airbox to intake valve. It ran out of breath at 4k though. 3rd gen 350TPI's would still beat 4th gen LT1's across the intersections. After that they kinda got choked up. |
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Posted: 1/16/2015 11:43:53 PM EDT
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I love the LS motors. I have a 6 liter in a 2004 2500HD with a 5 speed. It has 186,000 miles on it and reguarly pulls around 14,000 lbs around. It still has great power. The piston slap has gotten a little worse since it has gotten colder, but it goes away once it is warmed up. A tuner and exhaust will help a stock motor tremendously. I plan on driving this one until I can't fix it anymore.
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Posted: 1/16/2015 11:44:25 PM EDT
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The 10 bolt rear in the f-bodies was known to be dogshit. It was a weak point across at least two generations of the car. Your buddies grenading rears was more about the shitty 10 bolt than the awesomeness of the LS1. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Stock LS1's were known to crack sunshells early on. Pretty much everyone i know has had a rear end grenade on them. My pinion chewed itself apart at 50k. The 10 bolt rear in the f-bodies was known to be dogshit. It was a weak point across at least two generations of the car. Your buddies grenading rears was more about the shitty 10 bolt than the awesomeness of the LS1. The rear end fragging is hopefully fixed now.
The new rear end was not cheap. Hopefully the trans issue is fixed too. The new one is out of a 1200+ HP car. 
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Posted: 1/16/2015 11:44:39 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryAnd you can put them in nearly anything.
Yep. I still call it blasphemy... 
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Posted: 1/16/2015 11:45:11 PM EDT
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I was always disappointed by the lack of low end torque in my LS1 car. My only gripe. 
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Posted: 1/16/2015 11:45:59 PM EDT
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Best v8 design family in history.
Any man that disagrees sucks cock by choice!
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Posted: 1/16/2015 11:46:36 PM EDT
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TPI's were definitely torque monsters for their time. A product of the ridiculously long intake tract. Something like 30" from airbox to intake valve. It ran out of breath at 4k though. 3rd gen 350TPI's would still beat 4th gen LT1's across the intersections. After that they kinda got choked up. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I was always disappointed by the lack of low end torque in my LS1 car. My only gripe. Compared to what, a turbodiesel? Previously had older TPI cars, that felt like torque monster off idle. Obviously my C5 was much faster, but it felt like it took higher RPM to get it to wake up. Even my little Focus ST feels torquier down low.. obviously the vette was faster in every way. Dyno graphs say I'm crazy.. but the vette just felt a little lame down low, then would rip the tires loose and get crazy at about 4k. TPI's were definitely torque monsters for their time. A product of the ridiculously long intake tract. Something like 30" from airbox to intake valve. It ran out of breath at 4k though. 3rd gen 350TPI's would still beat 4th gen LT1's across the intersections. After that they kinda got choked up. Yep, the TPI's were great fun to zip around in, but not exactly race cars by any stretch. Most guys who were serious about those cars tossed the TPI in the trash. I started an LT1 swap in mine, but lost interest and just got a C5 instead. I'm not trying to trash the LS1 or anything. Just giving my impression of it. I would happily buy another C5 when I have the spare cash again. Hopefully in the next year or two. |
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Posted: 1/16/2015 11:47:08 PM EDT
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Actually it is money well spent to move up to the same architecture but more power with the LS6. Not really. Anything the LS6 brings to the table over the LS1 would be swapped out with a head/cam upgrade anyways. Only thing it has going for it is it has 243 heads already so that will save you from buying 243 cores like you would have to do with ls1. |
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Posted: 1/16/2015 11:48:40 PM EDT
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This was a junkyard 5.3 with a turbo.
Yeah. we tried our damnedest to kill it. It has since been put in a DD Camaro. 
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