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Posted: 10/5/2014 3:40:41 PM EDT
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Gubmint gots ta get paid, yo!
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Posted: 10/5/2014 3:41:34 PM EDT
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What you do is find an activity that can be demonized and, instead of abolishing it or forbidding it, you tax it.
It becomes easier to stomach immoral activity if the state gets a cut. |
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Posted: 10/5/2014 3:44:24 PM EDT
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Don't forget you are paying that tax with income that has already been taxed. Tax everything!
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Posted: 10/5/2014 3:47:40 PM EDT
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The excise tax on tobacco is part of the purchase price. State and local sales taxes are then on top of this.
Yes, a tax on a tax. |
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Posted: 10/5/2014 3:48:06 PM EDT
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Quoted: Why are cigarettes taxed on top of the purchase price? I thought taxes were built in to the purchase price. ... |
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Posted: 10/5/2014 3:51:42 PM EDT
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They once weren't double-taxed...at least in Oklahoma when I was in high school (when dinosaurs roamed the earth)
It made it seem like cigarettes were tax-free, because sales tax wasn't applied to them. Apparently the voters forgot they were ALREADY taxed, because when they started charging sales tax on top of the tobacco taxes already paid on cigarettes it made it seem like they were being taxed same as bread or milk. .seems like that was about the same time I got pissed off at them for double taxing cigarettes and I quit smoking just to spite them. It was either then or when cigarettes went up to $1 a pack. I'd be damned if I was going to pay $1/pack for cigarettes. 
probably one of the best things I ever did. 
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Posted: 10/5/2014 3:53:31 PM EDT
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I thought some portion of the sales tax went to fund the school day insurance for those that buy it from the schools?
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Posted: 10/5/2014 4:00:49 PM EDT
[#8]
FPNI
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Posted: 10/5/2014 4:15:12 PM EDT
[#9]
Things that leave a bad taste in ones mouth!
cigarettes taxes democrats (don't go there!  )
Hessian-1 
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Posted: 10/5/2014 4:16:32 PM EDT
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Why are cigarettes taxed on top of the purchase price? I thought taxes were built in to the purchase price. ... Because SIN!!! |
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Posted: 10/5/2014 4:26:03 PM EDT
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They should add a littering tax for all the fucking smokers who think the ground is a trash can.
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Posted: 10/5/2014 4:29:37 PM EDT
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They should add a littering tax for all the fucking smokers who think the ground is a trash can. And a tax for ruining the air with their smoke. |
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Posted: 10/5/2014 4:30:00 PM EDT
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when I started 0.45 now 7.55
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Posted: 10/5/2014 4:33:01 PM EDT
[#14]
Because government.
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Posted: 10/5/2014 4:48:15 PM EDT
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They tax it to prevent consumption of the product. "Sin Tax". Then they raise the taxes higher and declare they'll use the extra money to fund "Stop Smoking" programs for the little children. In doing they create another government bureaucracy program that has to pay salaries, fund pensions and cover overhead.
Once the taxes kick in, and people actually stop smoking (due to the extra "sin taxes"), they cry and moan cause the "special programs" are not being funded enough. So they raise the taxes again, cause, you know, its for the little children.
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Posted: 10/5/2014 4:50:54 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Don't forget you are paying that tax with income that has already been taxed. Tax everything! Plus the tobacco was taxed before it was even brought into the country.  |
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Posted: 10/5/2014 4:51:47 PM EDT
[#17]
Syntax.
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Posted: 10/5/2014 4:52:43 PM EDT
[#18]
Smokes aren't the only thing taxed on top of a tax. Gasoline for instance.
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Posted: 10/5/2014 4:54:27 PM EDT
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And a tax for ruining the air with their smoke. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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They should add a littering tax for all the fucking smokers who think the ground is a trash can. And a tax for ruining the air with their smoke. Hey Box, I'm thinking about asking you to carpool to Cola Warrior West. Do you hate smokers and if so why do you hate freedom.
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Posted: 10/5/2014 4:55:14 PM EDT
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Why are cigarettes taxed on top of the purchase price? I thought taxes were built in to the purchase price. ... What? |
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Posted: 10/5/2014 4:56:51 PM EDT
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Hey Box, I'm thinking about asking you to carpool to Cola Warrior West. Do you hate smokers and if so why do you hate freedom. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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They should add a littering tax for all the fucking smokers who think the ground is a trash can. And a tax for ruining the air with their smoke. Hey Box, I'm thinking about asking you to carpool to Cola Warrior West. Do you hate smokers and if so why do you hate freedom. I love me some freedom. But I can't be around smokers, I have asthma, also I think it's gross. But if people want to smoke, let em smoke 
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Posted: 10/5/2014 4:58:33 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: They tax it to prevent consumption of the product. "Sin Tax". Then they raise the taxes higher and declare they'll use the extra money to fund "Stop Smoking" programs for the little children. In doing they create another government bureaucracy program that has to pay salaries, fund pensions and cover overhead. Once the taxes kick in, and people actually stop smoking (due to the extra "sin taxes"), they cry and moan cause the "special programs" are not being funded enough. So they raise the taxes again, cause, you know, its for the little children. |
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Posted: 10/5/2014 5:00:43 PM EDT
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Don't forget you are paying that tax with income that has already been taxed. Unless you are an illegal alien or other individual working in the cash economy. Then you don't pay income tax. You just benefit from all the things paid for with income tax. |
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Posted: 10/5/2014 7:06:32 PM EDT
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You do realize that guns are taxed in the exact same way...
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Posted: 10/5/2014 7:11:22 PM EDT
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You do realize that guns are taxed in the exact same way... Yep, 11% fed, than state on top of both gun and fed tax price. |
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Posted: 10/5/2014 7:13:45 PM EDT
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You expect super rich pro sports franchise owners to pay for their own stadiums?
Nonsense!
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Posted: 10/5/2014 7:14:31 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Gubmint gots ta get paid, yo! But the double tax on cigarettes hurts the poor and minorities the most. 
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Posted: 10/5/2014 7:14:36 PM EDT
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You probably pay sales tax on the state tax portion
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Posted: 10/5/2014 7:15:30 PM EDT
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Because you let them
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Posted: 10/5/2014 7:53:49 PM EDT
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Don't forget you are paying that tax with income that has already been taxed. Tax everything! Indeed. Tax stuff as much as possible. There seems to be no breaking point for us to put our foot down and say, "Enough!" |
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Posted: 10/5/2014 9:46:23 PM EDT
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Why are cigarettes taxed on top of the purchase price? I thought taxes were built in to the purchase price. ... because they can. |
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Posted: 10/5/2014 9:47:31 PM EDT
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I think they should raise the taxes on them.
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Posted: 10/5/2014 10:12:43 PM EDT
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I think they should raise the taxes on them. Tax cigars too. 
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Posted: 10/5/2014 10:17:37 PM EDT
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I think they should raise the taxes on them. Ya, they should raise the tax on firearms, ammunition, gasoline, and start taxing oxygen. Everyone will be outfitted with a breathing monitor. 1 cent per breath. |
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Posted: 10/5/2014 10:19:55 PM EDT
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Tax cigars too. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I think they should raise the taxes on them. Tax cigars too. 
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Posted: 10/5/2014 10:29:12 PM EDT
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I thinl they should raise the taxes on guns and ammo. See where we don't want to go with that?
Quote HistoryQuoted: I think they should raise the taxes on them. |
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Posted: 10/5/2014 10:30:29 PM EDT
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Ya, they should raise the tax on firearms, ammunition, gasoline, and start taxing oxygen. Everyone will be outfitted with a breathing monitor. 1 cent per breath. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I think they should raise the taxes on them. Ya, they should raise the tax on firearms, ammunition, gasoline, and start taxing oxygen. Everyone will be outfitted with a breathing monitor. 1 cent per breath. And tacos Taco tax for taco man here, |
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Posted: 10/5/2014 10:46:06 PM EDT
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Because SIN!!! Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Why are cigarettes taxed on top of the purchase price? I thought taxes were built in to the purchase price. ... Because SIN!!! that's right it's a vice tax |
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Posted: 10/6/2014 1:08:46 AM EDT
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They tax it to prevent consumption of the product. "Sin Tax". Then they raise the taxes higher and declare they'll use the extra money to fund "Stop Smoking" programs for the little children. In doing they create another government bureaucracy program that has to pay salaries, fund pensions and cover overhead. Once the taxes kick in, and people actually stop smoking (due to the extra "sin taxes"), they cry and moan cause the "special programs" are not being funded enough. So they raise the taxes again, cause, you know, its for the little children. Then, when everyone stops smoking pretty much, they will do the same with Booze. $12 six packs of beer anyone? |
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Posted: 10/6/2014 1:25:28 AM EDT
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Gobmint loves the excise tax revenues generated from alcohol, tobacco, firearms, and explosives. Some anti-gun politicians have proposed a 500% ammo tax after mass shootings in the past.
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Posted: 10/6/2014 1:27:27 AM EDT
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Then, when everyone stops smoking pretty much, they will do the same with Booze. $12 six packs of beer anyone? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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They tax it to prevent consumption of the product. "Sin Tax". Then they raise the taxes higher and declare they'll use the extra money to fund "Stop Smoking" programs for the little children. In doing they create another government bureaucracy program that has to pay salaries, fund pensions and cover overhead. Once the taxes kick in, and people actually stop smoking (due to the extra "sin taxes"), they cry and moan cause the "special programs" are not being funded enough. So they raise the taxes again, cause, you know, its for the little children. Then, when everyone stops smoking pretty much, they will do the same with Booze. $12 six packs of beer anyone? If a six pack of even canoe sex beer was 12 bucks, I wouldn't buy beer at all. I'd homebrew, exclusively. |
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Posted: 10/6/2014 1:29:10 AM EDT
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What you do is find an activity that can be demonized and, instead of abolishing it or forbidding it, you tax it. It becomes easier to stomach immoral activity if the state gets a cut. 11% excise on firearms anyone? |
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Posted: 10/6/2014 1:33:35 AM EDT
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If a six pack of even canoe sex beer was 12 bucks, I wouldn't buy beer at all. I'd homebrew, exclusively. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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They tax it to prevent consumption of the product. "Sin Tax". Then they raise the taxes higher and declare they'll use the extra money to fund "Stop Smoking" programs for the little children. In doing they create another government bureaucracy program that has to pay salaries, fund pensions and cover overhead. Once the taxes kick in, and people actually stop smoking (due to the extra "sin taxes"), they cry and moan cause the "special programs" are not being funded enough. So they raise the taxes again, cause, you know, its for the little children. Then, when everyone stops smoking pretty much, they will do the same with Booze. $12 six packs of beer anyone? If a six pack of even canoe sex beer was 12 bucks, I wouldn't buy beer at all. I'd homebrew, exclusively. No you wouldn't, that would become illegal overnight. Big gov needs your money more than you do, can't have you evading the taxes. |
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Posted: 10/6/2014 1:36:35 AM EDT
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11% excise on firearms anyone? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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What you do is find an activity that can be demonized and, instead of abolishing it or forbidding it, you tax it. It becomes easier to stomach immoral activity if the state gets a cut. 11% excise on firearms anyone? Outlaw the Ghost guns
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Posted: 10/6/2014 1:50:26 AM EDT
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Taxes and registration fees are used to fund government and used as a tool to control demand.
Want more people to buy houses? Implement a tax credit. Need popularion growth? Implement a child tax credit. Want people to smoke/drive less? Tax the hell out of gas, smokes, etc. Want to spur consumer spending? Implement a tax free day for back to school, it encourages consumer spending and makes it look like you care for your next election. |
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Posted: 10/6/2014 2:05:25 AM EDT
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Because SIN!!! Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Why are cigarettes taxed on top of the purchase price? I thought taxes were built in to the purchase price. ... Because SIN!!! derp...because money for the FSA |
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Posted: 10/6/2014 2:51:03 AM EDT
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Because those new NFL stadiums aren't going to fund themselves
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Posted: 10/6/2014 3:00:39 AM EDT
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I think they should raise the taxes on them. Change cigarettes to "ammunition" and how many libs do you think would support it? Don't support things that can be used against you
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Posted: 10/6/2014 3:07:23 AM EDT
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Why are cigarettes taxed on top of the purchase price? I thought taxes were built in to the purchase price. ... It's a simple excise tax. You're paying a flat rate for a tax stamp. Same idea as the tax stamp you have to get to transfer an NFA weapon or the tax stamps one had to get for paper in the colonies in the 1760s. It has nothing to do with the price. This sort of excise tax has been utilized since before this country was founded. Actually, IIRC, it is the vendor paying for the tax stamp and he simply passes on the tax to you in the price he charges. You pay it indirectly. |
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Posted: 10/6/2014 3:10:39 AM EDT
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It's a stupid tax. If you're stupid enough to smoke, you won't mind paying $8 for fucking cigarettes.
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