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Posted: 12/11/2013 6:12:59 PM EDT
Listening to him on Hannity. Honestly he sounds like he is on the level....Here is the issue the Democrats do not want to negotiate. Anything they can do to get leverage in 2014 they are going to do.
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Articulate for sure.
Beyond that, I think the man is a scum bag. |
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He gave Harry Reid the power to raise taxes with a simple majority vote in the budget deal. Maybe Ryan is smarter than me, and he's giving the Democrats the rope to hang themselves with more taxes, on top of ObamaCare mandate/taxes, but I wish the GOP would see the threat Democrats are.
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I have no opinion on his intelligence, but he certainly seems to support some very expensive legislation.
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Listening to him on Hannity. Honestly he sounds like he is on the level....Here is the issue the Democrats do not want to negotiate. Anything they can do to get leverage in 2014 they are going to do. View Quote it's a tactic to disarm the left. Take away any ammo they might have to make excuses for their failures in 2014. |
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Smart doesn't win issues or elections. Political savoy does, and upsetting your voting base isn't a good start.
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Quoted: it's a tactic to disarm the left. Take away any ammo they might have to make excuses for their failures in 2014. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Listening to him on Hannity. Honestly he sounds like he is on the level....Here is the issue the Democrats do not want to negotiate. Anything they can do to get leverage in 2014 they are going to do. it's a tactic to disarm the left. Take away any ammo they might have to make excuses for their failures in 2014. |
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He just pissed off a lot of conservatives. What he is doing is trying to move from the far right to closer to the middle of the road, Far right will not win the presidency... you need to get the center of the curve
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Listening to him on Hannity. Honestly he sounds like he is on the level....Here is the issue the Democrats do not want to negotiate. Anything they can do to get leverage in 2014 they are going to do. View Quote he's very obvious. he can't lie very effectively because he's an okay guy, but his obligations are also obvious. he's in the pocket of interests GD hates. at least he's not an alien shape-shifter. though i am sure there are dumbasses that think he is. |
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He gave Harry Reid the power to raise taxes with a simple majority vote in the budget deal. Maybe Ryan is smarter than me, and he's giving the Democrats the rope to hang themselves with more taxes, on top of ObamaCare mandate/taxes, but I wish the GOP would see the threat Democrats are. http://hotair.com/archives/2013/12/11/report-theres-a-nasty-bit-of-the-budget-deal-that-makes-tax-hikes-easier-to-pass/ View Quote Yeah that's retarded right there |
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Seems like a nice guy.
His "budget" was laughable. Not fiscally conservative enough for my liking. |
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My wife and I got the chance to speak with him, along with Romney, for about 10 minutes last year. He seemed like an intelligent guy, but even more so, a down to earth cool dude. http://i205.photobucket.com/albums/bb107/motoracer51/20121022_175436.jpg View Quote sigh.. |
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it's a tactic to disarm the left. Take away any ammo they might have to make excuses for their failures in 2014. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Listening to him on Hannity. Honestly he sounds like he is on the level....Here is the issue the Democrats do not want to negotiate. Anything they can do to get leverage in 2014 they are going to do. it's a tactic to disarm the left. Take away any ammo they might have to make excuses for their failures in 2014. Chess,right???? FPNI |
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Quoted: Quoted: My wife and I got the chance to speak with him, along with Romney, for about 10 minutes last year. He seemed like an intelligent guy, but even more so, a down to earth cool dude. http://i205.photobucket.com/albums/bb107/motoracer51/20121022_175436.jpg sigh.. |
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Excellent decision on his part. Let Obamacare crash and burn right before the election. Keep the focus on Obama failures, and get more good guys elected.
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In all fairness, this was while he was running for VP. Seems like he's taken a precipitous dive off the deep end after the VP run. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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My wife and I got the chance to speak with him, along with Romney, for about 10 minutes last year. He seemed like an intelligent guy, but even more so, a down to earth cool dude. http://i205.photobucket.com/albums/bb107/motoracer51/20121022_175436.jpg sigh.. Agreed. I thought the same when he was up for VP... Now I am like WTF. Seems like they will all sell out and forget the principals they ran on. |
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at least he's not an alien shape-shifter. though i am sure there are dumbasses that think he is. View Quote I'm not a dumbass and I think he's an alien shape shifter......put on the "I'm a conservative" act pretty well when he was Romney's running mate but after that he "shape shiftted" into the same ol establishment Republican. He had a chance to set himself apart and instead he chose to be the same. |
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I'm not a dumbass and I think he's an alien shape shifter......put on the "I'm a conservative" act pretty well when he was Romney's running mate but after that he "shape shiftted" into the same ol establishment Republican. He had a chance to set himself apart and instead he chose to be the same. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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at least he's not an alien shape-shifter. though i am sure there are dumbasses that think he is. I'm not a dumbass and I think he's an alien shape shifter......put on the "I'm a conservative" act pretty well when he was Romney's running mate but after that he "shape shiftted" into the same ol establishment Republican. He had a chance to set himself apart and instead he chose to be the same. yeah your read on him is different than mine. he always seemed like an obvious establishment republican in khaki pants to me. he was mitt the dick's running mate, fer chrissakes... the acid test being... does he look like a guy that could be the head of a nutritional supplement and skin creme company in utah? if so, he's probably an establishment republican. |
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Agreed. I thought the same when he was up for VP... Now I am like WTF. Seems like they will all sell out and forget the principals they ran on. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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My wife and I got the chance to speak with him, along with Romney, for about 10 minutes last year. He seemed like an intelligent guy, but even more so, a down to earth cool dude. http://i205.photobucket.com/albums/bb107/motoracer51/20121022_175436.jpg sigh.. Agreed. I thought the same when he was up for VP... Now I am like WTF. Seems like they will all sell out and forget the principals they ran on. If you can forget your principals,they aren't really your pricipals. |
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strategic move. didnt really give up anything but didnt gain anything either.
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I won't say he is dumb, but to say he is smart wouldn't be fair either. Fortunately for Paul Ryan and the level of politics he is in, the game is played far differently than what the average Joe will ever realize. Paul Ryan is simply a "popular" candidate, who the "conservatives" will hang their hat on. The bottom line: he is no different than any other politician - keep towing the company line, keep cashing the company check.
The majority of the voters memory span is good for a year or so. Start making headway now so you can say a year or so from now (election time) how you are "bipartisan", you "reached out over the aisle", etc. His actions/saying/doing is no different than any other politician, albeit US congressman/senator, state rep, or even a damn county coroner. His playbook is the same one used by all other politicians, regardless of affiliation. As for true conservative politicians ever becoming mainstream or popular, a.k.a winning elections, making a "real" difference...not gonna happen. There is too much money involved. Cut the head off the dragon and guess what, YOU (the conservative) lose money. We buy the persona of our political heroes the same way we buy our shoes - what feels good today. Nobody in politics is doing something for the common good. Politics is about gaining and maintaining power. Conservative politics today is simply selling you on how you spent less than the other guy. However, the issue at hand is lost, and that issue is - spending on something still costs more than not spending at all. What will Ryan do for gun rights? He will support them until he is told differently. Personal feelings/convictions don't make politics, they only stroke the emotions of those that you want to vote for you. |
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Listening to him on Hannity. Honestly he sounds like he is on the level....Here is the issue the Democrats do not want to negotiate. Anything they can do to get leverage in 2014 they are going to do. View Quote Words don't mean jack shit. Remember the times you've been drunk and talking to that chick and all you want to do is get laid? Yeah, same thing. But then, see that these scum sucking panty waste statist have the purse strings of the most wealthy and influential nation as the prize. My goodness, when are people going to wake up and see that it isn't what people say that matters..it's what they do? |
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it's a tactic to disarm the left. Take away any ammo they might have to make excuses for their failures in 2014. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Listening to him on Hannity. Honestly he sounds like he is on the level....Here is the issue the Democrats do not want to negotiate. Anything they can do to get leverage in 2014 they are going to do. it's a tactic to disarm the left. Take away any ammo they might have to make excuses for their failures in 2014. So surrender you power and let the Demons rape the private treasuries of the American People and plunder anything of value that is left. FUCK THAT. Leadership. Yippy. |
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He just pissed off a lot of conservatives. What he is doing is trying to move from the far right to closer to the middle of the road, Far right will not win the presidency... you need to get the center of the curve View Quote Worked well for President McCain and President Romney. |
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For the folk here that obey the law and wants to keep their guns... what if I told you elections matter?
This is why Ryan is doing what he is doing and will help the GOP win back the Senate in 2014. For the rest that disagree... stop listening to Alex Jones plz. |
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Quoted: For the folk here that obey the law and wants to keep their guns... what if I told you elections matter? This is why Ryan is doing what he is doing and will help the GOP win back the Senate in 2014. For the rest that disagree... stop listening to Alex Jones plz. View Quote Actual real power was achieved through the Tea Party in 2010. The power the GOP leadership is desperately hanging on to and has FAILED to expand upon with their strategy of disenfranchising the conservative movement since then. |
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Quoted: For the folk here that obey the law and wants to keep their guns... what if I told you elections matter? This is why Ryan is doing what he is doing and will help the GOP win back the Senate in 2014. For the rest that disagree... stop listening to Alex Jones plz. View Quote Here's hoping. |
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Fuck that cocksucker. After the assraping he just gave all military retires I hope he doesn't last another term. I'll never speak a kind word of that motherfucker that just reached into my pocket and yanked out $200K to assuage the fucking democrats. FPR.
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Quoted: Fuck that cocksucker. After the assraping he just gave all military retires I hope he doesn't last another term. I'll never speak a kind word of that motherfucker that just reached into my pocket and yanked out $200K to assuage the fucking democrats. FPR. View Quote I'm hoping something changes, or it has been misread. Otherwise - ^^^ yeah. Where's the cuts to welfare? Food stamps? Where's the work to reduce the fraud and waste associated with medicare? Social Security? SSDI? Welfare? SNAP? Why do we still fund PBS and NPR? National Endowment for the Arts? Foreign Aid? Nah - let's just fuck over a relatively small group of patriotic Americans so we can show that we are now serious about our budget. |
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For the folk here that obey the law and wants to keep their guns... what if I told you elections matter? This is why Ryan is doing what he is doing and will help the GOP win back the Senate in 2014. For the rest that disagree... stop listening to Alex Jones plz. View Quote I guess Paul Ryan is helping me keep my legal guns legal. That'd be nice. I don't really think that's the case and I doubt he thinks that's the case either. |
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For the folk here that obey the law and wants to keep their guns... what if I told you elections matter? This is why Ryan is doing what he is doing and will help the GOP win back the Senate in 2014. For the rest that disagree... stop listening to Alex Jones plz. View Quote What good are guns if you have no liberty left to protect? Oooooh! You're a hunter! |
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Great politician. You have to admire someone who can convince the mouth breathers in the Republican party that he's fiscally conservative, while constantly coming up with budget plans that increase spending until the end of time. Then again, that's probably not particularly difficult... |
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Worked well for President McCain and President Romney. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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He just pissed off a lot of conservatives. What he is doing is trying to move from the far right to closer to the middle of the road, Far right will not win the presidency... you need to get the center of the curve Worked well for President McCain and President Romney. neither of them gave a shit about America, it was about power and money, McCain sold out so fast, Romney would have turned RINO for the rich in a minute |
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The left are calling him a milk snatcher and he's staunch pro gun
http://www.politicususa.com/2013/11/05/paul-ryans-ayn-rand-fantasy-double-food-stamp-cuts-starve-millions.html |
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I'm hoping something changes, or it has been misread. Otherwise - ^^^ yeah. Where's the cuts to welfare? Food stamps? Where's the work to reduce the fraud and waste associated with medicare? Social Security? SSDI? Welfare? SNAP? Why do we still fund PBS and NPR? National Endowment for the Arts? Foreign Aid? Nah - let's just fuck over a relatively small group of patriotic Americans so we can show that we are now serious about our budget. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Fuck that cocksucker. After the assraping he just gave all military retires I hope he doesn't last another term. I'll never speak a kind word of that motherfucker that just reached into my pocket and yanked out $200K to assuage the fucking democrats. FPR. I'm hoping something changes, or it has been misread. Otherwise - ^^^ yeah. Where's the cuts to welfare? Food stamps? Where's the work to reduce the fraud and waste associated with medicare? Social Security? SSDI? Welfare? SNAP? Why do we still fund PBS and NPR? National Endowment for the Arts? Foreign Aid? Nah - let's just fuck over a relatively small group of patriotic Americans so we can show that we are now serious about our budget. People that caused our problems....non-producers, theives that put a lot of money to political funds, remember the Medical ASSociations are anti-gun, and all the grubbing countries that hate us... He will still support them |
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