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Posted: 10/28/2013 3:20:22 AM EDT
Wow. Just wow.
http://news.yahoo.com/fears-brat-ocracy-child-centred-sweden-032211025.html Stockholm (AFP) - Sweden had a head start in the good parenting debate as the first country to outlaw smacking but some argue that its child-centered approach has gone too far and children now rule the roost. "In some ways Swedish kids are really ill-mannered," David Eberhard, a leading psychiatrist and father of six, told AFP. ... "Of course you should listen to your children but in Sweden it's gone too far. They tend to decide everything in families: when to go to bed, what to eat, where to go on vacation, even what to watch on television," he said, adding that the permissive approach to child-raising leaves young Swedes ill-equipped for adulthood. "Their expectations are too high and life is too hard for them. We see it with anxiety disorders and self harming which has risen dramatically." ... "Two boys were swearing at each other -- I didn't think 7-year-olds even knew words like that -- and when I tried to intervene they swore at me and told me to mind my own business," said Ola Olofsson, a journalist at a southern Swedish newspaper, describing a visit to his 7-year-old daughter's classroom. When he wrote a column about the chaos he witnessed at the school, the paper's website was inundated with hundreds of comments from exasperated parents and teachers. One preschool teacher from Stockholm wrote that the 4- and 5-year-olds she teaches regularly say "You think I care!" when asked to do something. "Just the other day a 4-year-old spat at me when I asked him to stop climbing on some shelves," she added. |
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So I'm thinking..."Boy, go cut me a switch" would not go over well there.
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All this stupid modern crap is going to come full circle and they'll start publishing studies showing that providing consistent unambiguous firm guidance is what's best for kids. Unfortunately it will happen after we raise an entire generation of self centered emotionally immature brats. Oh, wait...
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Quoted: Wow. Just wow. http://news.yahoo.com/fears-brat-ocracy-child-centred-sweden-032211025.html Stockholm (AFP) - Sweden had a head start in the good parenting debate as the first country to outlaw smacking but some argue that its child-centered approach has gone too far and children now rule the roost. "In some ways Swedish kids are really ill-mannered," David Eberhard, a leading psychiatrist and father of six, told AFP. ... "Of course you should listen to your children but in Sweden it's gone too far. They tend to decide everything in families: when to go to bed, what to eat, where to go on vacation, even what to watch on television," he said, adding that the permissive approach to child-raising leaves young Swedes ill-equipped for adulthood. "Their expectations are too high and life is too hard for them. We see it with anxiety disorders and self harming which has risen dramatically." ... "Two boys were swearing at each other -- I didn't think 7-year-olds even knew words like that -- and when I tried to intervene they swore at me and told me to mind my own business," said Ola Olofsson, a journalist at a southern Swedish newspaper, describing a visit to his 7-year-old daughter's classroom. When he wrote a column about the chaos he witnessed at the school, the paper's website was inundated with hundreds of comments from exasperated parents and teachers. One preschool teacher from Stockholm wrote that the 4- and 5-year-olds she teaches regularly say "You think I care!" when asked to do something. "Just the other day a 4-year-old spat at me when I asked him to stop climbing on some shelves," she added. View Quote Suddenly it all becomes clear. "Bad Attitude" Barracas, indeed |
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Start slapping the shit out of those kids and they'll come around.
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Yep, you should...............In before the Swede
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Suddenly it all becomes clear. "Bad Attitude" Barracas, indeed You know I immediately thought of him. Maybe I should send him a link. |
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We see it here in the traditional Hispanic cultures where the male child is being raised in a house where the sperm donor lacks the maturity to accept the responsibility of being a father.
The disintegration of the family will be the down fall of western society. It is time that Men learn to take their role in the family seriously. The welfare state has replaced the father and I believe it to be a major cause of the problem. |
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Sweden is also the only country in Northern Europe that wasn't invaded by the Nazis.
Coincidence? |
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Sweden is the prime example of how multiculturalism fully destroys a country
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All this stupid modern crap is going to come full circle and they'll start publishing studies showing that providing consistent unambiguous firm guidance is what's best for kids. Unfortunately it will happen after we raise an entire generation of self centered emotionally immature brats. Oh, wait... View Quote This. Especially that. |
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I'm not against hand to ass treatment for any kids. I got my ass beat like it was some sort of competition back in the day and I know the value of a stinging ass, hurt feelings. But this story is just more lame excuses. You don't have to lose control over your kids because your not hitting them. My daughter has never given me a reason to spank her and she doesn't act like the kids described.
The author of the story claims the kids rule the roost, setting bed times, where to vacation, etc. Bullshit. I don't need to hit a kid to lock their ass in a dark bedroom, alone, with no tv or toys. I control the fuse box, not them. Kids not acting right, they DONT go on vacation. They sit their asses at home while the rest of the family goes. Just because the state passes a stupid over reaching law for man doesn't mean you completely abandon any discipline on your kids. Thats frickin stupid and childish. |
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I'm not against hand to ass treatment for any kids. I got my ass beat like it was some sort of competition back in the day and I know the value of a stinging ass, hurt feelings. But this story is just more lame excuses. You don't have to lose control over your kids because your not hitting them. My daughter has never given me a reason to spank her and she doesn't act like the kids described. The author of the story claims the kids rule the roost, setting bed times, where to vacation, etc. Bullshit. I don't need to hit a kid to lock their ass in a dark bedroom, alone, with no tv or toys. I control the fuse box, not them. Kids not acting right, they DONT go on vacation. They sit their asses at home while the rest of the family goes. Just because the state passes a stupid over reaching law for man doesn't mean you completely abandon any discipline on your kids. Thats frickin stupid and childish. View Quote Agreed, the story is mostly bullshit. Most parents, my own included, do just fine. |
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Everything old is new again.
Throughout the latter part if the 19th century and up through the fall of the iron curtain, tsarist Russia and the ussr swung wildly between lettin the kids rule the home and parents bein rather oppressive. Doctrine seemed to change about every 10-15 years. |
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The disintegration of the family will be the down fall of western society. It is time that Men learn to take their role in the family seriously. The welfare state has replaced the father and I believe it to be a major cause of the problem. View Quote All according to the plan. The liberals want the government to replace the family as the disciplinarian and decision maker. Some of them will deny it when asked but as you work through what their programs do it's obvious. Make the father obsolete and tell 5 year olds their opinion is just as important as their mom's. Only government has the power to tell you what to do. Not god or parents. |
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Bullshit to this story. You don't need to lay a hand on your kid to teach them respect and how to act.
Yes, a spanking maybe in order, but it is just one tool in the chest. An adult should be able to leverage much better psychological actions on a 7yo than a spanking will deliver. |
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Quoted: I've seen Norwegian and Danish families. They're no better. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Sweden is also the only country in Northern Europe that wasn't invaded by the Nazis. Coincidence? I've seen Norwegian and Danish families. They're no better. But you don't see stories about them. At least they have shame. Sweden: Land of shameless blonde tarts running around in need of a spanking. |
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Quoted: Just some things to ponder http://static.ylilauta.org/files/fj/orig/136884463185920.jpg/1348593777412412.jpg View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Sweden is the prime example of how multiculturalism fully destroys a country Hardly. Just some things to ponder http://static.ylilauta.org/files/fj/orig/136884463185920.jpg/1348593777412412.jpg Go back to 4Chan. |
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Sweden is the prime example of how multiculturalism fully destroys a country Hardly. Just some things to ponder http://static.ylilauta.org/files/fj/orig/136884463185920.jpg/1348593777412412.jpg lol |
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Swede1986 is definitely a special snowflake and rejects your bigotry.
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I was going to say In Before sweden denies everything but I see I'm late
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Thousands of years of families brought up right shot all to hell with one generation.
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Bullshit to this story. You don't need to lay a hand on your kid to teach them respect and how to act. Yes, a spanking maybe in order, but it is just one tool in the chest. An adult should be able to leverage much better psychological actions on a 7yo than a spanking will deliver. View Quote Damned right! That's why they make cattle prods and bull whips |
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Not really. The people in the article are not the norm. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Thousands of years of families brought up right shot all to hell with one generation. Not really. The people in the article are not the norm. I guess I have to bow to your superior post count, sweden For now. For now. |
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I'm going to go ahead and guess that:
1. This article probably does a shit job of reflecting the reality on the ground in Sweden (sound familiar?) and... 2. Our resident Swede will tell us how. With style.
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LOL this is becoming trans-Atlantic feud. Now we got Canucks joining in.
When I saw this article I immediately thought about GD. I am not disappointed. |
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Quoted: I guess I have to bow to your superior post count, sweden For now. For now. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Thousands of years of families brought up right shot all to hell with one generation. Not really. The people in the article are not the norm. I guess I have to bow to your superior post count, sweden For now. For now. Never give up, never surrender. It only encourages the swedes/aliens |
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Damned right! That's why they make cattle prods and bull whips View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Bullshit to this story. You don't need to lay a hand on your kid to teach them respect and how to act. Yes, a spanking maybe in order, but it is just one tool in the chest. An adult should be able to leverage much better psychological actions on a 7yo than a spanking will deliver. Damned right! That's why they make cattle prods and bull whips They make cattle prods and bull whips for cattle not for children! They just happen to work really well on children. |
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