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Posted: 9/8/2013 8:28:53 AM EDT
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Protip: Don't sneak into houses and then jump out at people.
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Posted: 9/8/2013 8:33:23 AM EDT
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Protip: Don't sneak into houses and then jump out at people. This. More info would help a lot in determining who is most at fault here. |
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Posted: 9/8/2013 8:36:13 AM EDT
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God, that's terrible.
Love the photo they found for the kid. Reminds me why I don't take photos like that. |
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Posted: 9/8/2013 8:40:23 AM EDT
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Protip: Don't sneak into houses and then jump out at people. +1... - georgestrings |
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Posted: 9/8/2013 8:55:23 AM EDT
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Someone was playing a stupid game and won big time.  |
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Posted: 9/8/2013 9:02:38 AM EDT
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I have been told that it's known among my circle not to fuck with me in this manner lest there be results such as this.
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Posted: 9/8/2013 9:05:45 AM EDT
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"Despite his sadness Praveen Lal said he feels no anger towards Nerrek Galley."
Wow. |
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Posted: 9/8/2013 9:06:30 AM EDT
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Sometimes kids will be kids
I know its GD, but some young people like to have fun and expect to not get shot. |
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Posted: 9/8/2013 9:07:19 AM EDT
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Very Sad, tragic loss of someone's beautiful daughter.
 I'm just a little skeptical on why he had the rifle pointed in that direction or how the event unfolded.
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Posted: 9/8/2013 9:07:42 AM EDT
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Tragedy for all involved.
Prayers to the families. |
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Posted: 9/8/2013 9:07:52 AM EDT
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You kind of have to wonder about the mindset of people who think it would be a good idea to startle a paranoid gun owner in their own home.
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Posted: 9/8/2013 9:08:23 AM EDT
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You kind of have to wonder about the mindset of people who think it would be a good idea to startle a paranoid gun owner in their own home. FIFY |
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Posted: 9/8/2013 9:12:38 AM EDT
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Sometimes kids will be kids
I know its GD, but some young people like to have fun and expect to not get shot. True, but she did get shot. The article doesn't provide enough information to guess at whether it was reasonable to shoot her or not, but the outcome was obviously terrible regardless of her intentions. |
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Posted: 9/8/2013 9:16:36 AM EDT
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Break into somebody's house and jump out at them in the middle of the night? Hmm...
Sorry..but Darwin wins again. |
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Posted: 9/8/2013 9:23:43 AM EDT
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Break into somebody's house and jump out at them in the middle of the night? Hmm... Sorry..but Darwin wins again. It appears that what "won" here is tragedy. High spirited teenagers are known to do things like that. As other replies have noted, a lot more details are needed. The shooter failed to identify his target before his finger engaged the bang switch - massive fail. I agree. Was it a high crime area? Had there been recent home invasions or break-ins? Was he primed by some past events to be expecting possible trouble? Still doesn't excuse his failure, but such details might mitigate my judgment of him somewhat. |
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Posted: 9/8/2013 9:27:21 AM EDT
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It appears that what "won" here is tragedy. High spirited teenagers are known to do things like that. As other replies have noted, a lot more details are needed. The shooter failed to identify his target before his finger engaged the bang switch - massive fail. I agree. Was it a high crime area? Had there been recent home invasions or break-ins? Was he primed by some past events to be expecting possible trouble? Still doesn't excuse his failure, but such details might mitigate my judgment of him somewhat. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Break into somebody's house and jump out at them in the middle of the night? Hmm... Sorry..but Darwin wins again. It appears that what "won" here is tragedy. High spirited teenagers are known to do things like that. As other replies have noted, a lot more details are needed. The shooter failed to identify his target before his finger engaged the bang switch - massive fail. I agree. Was it a high crime area? Had there been recent home invasions or break-ins? Was he primed by some past events to be expecting possible trouble? Still doesn't excuse his failure, but such details might mitigate my judgment of him somewhat. I see failure on the person hiding. |
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Posted: 9/8/2013 9:29:54 AM EDT
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I see failure on the person hiding. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Break into somebody's house and jump out at them in the middle of the night? Hmm... Sorry..but Darwin wins again. It appears that what "won" here is tragedy. High spirited teenagers are known to do things like that. As other replies have noted, a lot more details are needed. The shooter failed to identify his target before his finger engaged the bang switch - massive fail. I agree. Was it a high crime area? Had there been recent home invasions or break-ins? Was he primed by some past events to be expecting possible trouble? Still doesn't excuse his failure, but such details might mitigate my judgment of him somewhat. I see failure on the person hiding. Depends on whether he knew she was in the house or not. If so, he should have identified his target, unless she actually rushed him and made it seem like an attack. |
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Posted: 9/8/2013 9:31:27 AM EDT
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I have been told that it's known among my circle not to fuck with me in this manner lest there be results such as this. Well aren't you a bad ass bro. |
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Posted: 9/8/2013 9:32:31 AM EDT
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Depends on whether he knew she was in the house or not. If so, he should have identified his target, unless she actually rushed him and made it seem like an attack. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Break into somebody's house and jump out at them in the middle of the night? Hmm... Sorry..but Darwin wins again. It appears that what "won" here is tragedy. High spirited teenagers are known to do things like that. As other replies have noted, a lot more details are needed. The shooter failed to identify his target before his finger engaged the bang switch - massive fail. I agree. Was it a high crime area? Had there been recent home invasions or break-ins? Was he primed by some past events to be expecting possible trouble? Still doesn't excuse his failure, but such details might mitigate my judgment of him somewhat. I see failure on the person hiding. Depends on whether he knew she was in the house or not. If so, he should have identified his target, unless she actually rushed him and made it seem like an attack. What if he heard a noise in a closet thought no one was home and they jumped out? |
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Posted: 9/8/2013 9:33:18 AM EDT
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It appears that what "won" here is tragedy. High spirited teenagers are known to do things like that. As other replies have noted, a lot more details are needed. The shooter failed to identify his target before his finger engaged the bang switch - massive fail. I agree. Was it a high crime area? Had there been recent home invasions or break-ins? Was he primed by some past events to be expecting possible trouble? Still doesn't excuse his failure, but such details might mitigate my judgment of him somewhat. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Break into somebody's house and jump out at them in the middle of the night? Hmm... Sorry..but Darwin wins again. It appears that what "won" here is tragedy. High spirited teenagers are known to do things like that. As other replies have noted, a lot more details are needed. The shooter failed to identify his target before his finger engaged the bang switch - massive fail. I agree. Was it a high crime area? Had there been recent home invasions or break-ins? Was he primed by some past events to be expecting possible trouble? Still doesn't excuse his failure, but such details might mitigate my judgment of him somewhat. it appears to be a failure on the part of the person who got shot. Sucks, but if you break into someone's house and jump out at them getting shot is a risk you're taking. If I know where all the authorized people are anyone jumping out at me is attacking me and a threat. They're probably going to get shot. |
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Posted: 9/8/2013 9:34:06 AM EDT
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When I first got out of the navy I was at work on Halloween and we had a Guy come out
of a dark office in a mask trying to scare me I nearly Dropped him on the spot He was pulling off the mask and saying "No No" I guess he realized my reflexes were faster than my thinking process. If I would have hit him I probably would have killed him. It is Never smart to scare people. |
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Posted: 9/8/2013 9:34:48 AM EDT
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I hope some of you never have family lest they'd all wind up dead from every bump in the night that you might hear.
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Posted: 9/8/2013 9:35:13 AM EDT
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What if he heard a noise in a closet thought no one was home and they jumped out? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Break into somebody's house and jump out at them in the middle of the night? Hmm... Sorry..but Darwin wins again. It appears that what "won" here is tragedy. High spirited teenagers are known to do things like that. As other replies have noted, a lot more details are needed. The shooter failed to identify his target before his finger engaged the bang switch - massive fail. I agree. Was it a high crime area? Had there been recent home invasions or break-ins? Was he primed by some past events to be expecting possible trouble? Still doesn't excuse his failure, but such details might mitigate my judgment of him somewhat. I see failure on the person hiding. Depends on whether he knew she was in the house or not. If so, he should have identified his target, unless she actually rushed him and made it seem like an attack. What if he heard a noise in a closet thought no one was home and they jumped out? Might be reasonable to shoot then. |
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Posted: 9/8/2013 9:36:04 AM EDT
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What a horrible story.
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Posted: 9/8/2013 9:36:26 AM EDT
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I have been told that it's known among my circle not to fuck with me in this manner lest there be results such as this. This. Tragic but avoidable. |
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Posted: 9/8/2013 9:39:08 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: FIFY Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: You kind of have to wonder about the mindset of people who think it would be a good idea to startle a paranoid gun owner in their own home. FIFY Well, to be fair I included the word paranoid because of the evidence. It seems a little suspicious to me that someone could shoot a best friend or family member without identifying them first. I don't know how dark it was in the room, etc. But the shooter probably should have been a little more careful. Not saying a crime was committed though. |
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Posted: 9/8/2013 9:40:24 AM EDT
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It appears that what "won" here is tragedy. High spirited teenagers are known to do things like that. As other replies have noted, a lot more details are needed. The shooter failed to identify his target before his finger engaged the bang switch - massive fail. I agree. Was it a high crime area? Had there been recent home invasions or break-ins? Was he primed by some past events to be expecting possible trouble? Still doesn't excuse his failure, but such details might mitigate my judgment of him somewhat. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Break into somebody's house and jump out at them in the middle of the night? Hmm... Sorry..but Darwin wins again. It appears that what "won" here is tragedy. High spirited teenagers are known to do things like that. As other replies have noted, a lot more details are needed. The shooter failed to identify his target before his finger engaged the bang switch - massive fail. I agree. Was it a high crime area? Had there been recent home invasions or break-ins? Was he primed by some past events to be expecting possible trouble? Still doesn't excuse his failure, but such details might mitigate my judgment of him somewhat. It's certainly a tragedy, but the law usually accounts for them, at least. I think you'd have a reasonable fear for your life if someone lunged at you from a closet, screaming, when you thought your home was secure. That doesn't make the guy feel any better about what he did, but there was no crime committed here. |
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Posted: 9/8/2013 9:41:52 AM EDT
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Well aren't you a bad ass bro. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I have been told that it's known among my circle not to fuck with me in this manner lest there be results such as this. Well aren't you a bad ass bro. Most people tend to know it's not a good idea to play a mock attack on someone in their home. Those who don't, likely don't often consider that people might defend themselves. When they encounter someone that can and will, it's outside the norm and gets talked about. That, or he's a bad ass. 
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Posted: 9/8/2013 9:42:55 AM EDT
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When I first got out of the navy I was at work on Halloween and we had a Guy come out of a dark office in a mask trying to scare me I nearly Dropped him on the spot He was pulling off the mask and saying "No No" I guess he realized my reflexes were faster than my thinking process. If I would have hit him I probably would have killed him. It is Never smart to scare people. If it wasn't Halloween, don't you think it would have been more likely that your cognition wouldn't have kicked in as quickly? |
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Posted: 9/8/2013 9:44:25 AM EDT
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Cute girl hides in closet and surprises same aged male ...
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Posted: 9/8/2013 9:44:47 AM EDT
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I'm just a little skeptical on why he had the rifle pointed in that direction or how the event unfolded. It doesn't say he shot her with a rifle. |
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Posted: 9/8/2013 9:45:19 AM EDT
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At first I thought this was a PSL, and liked the wood - but I see the 45 degree cut on the rear of the receiver, and vaguely recall a Saiga import for the civilian market in a hunting caliber that had nice wood on it.
Can anyone ID it? 
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Posted: 9/8/2013 9:46:36 AM EDT
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It doesn't say he shot her with a rifle. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I'm just a little skeptical on why he had the rifle pointed in that direction or how the event unfolded. It doesn't say he shot her with a rifle. True. The photo shows him with one, which I'm sure isn't intended to color your subconscious notion of him or gun owners in general :) |
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Posted: 9/8/2013 9:48:05 AM EDT
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Her family even recognizes it as an accident but the cops still gotta try to pin something on the shooter.
 Hope there is more to the story on his arrest. |
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Posted: 9/8/2013 9:48:40 AM EDT
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At first I thought this was a PSL, and liked the wood - but I see the 45 degree cut on the rear of the receiver, and vaguely recall a Saiga import for the civilian market in a hunting caliber that had nice wood on it. Can anyone ID it? http://cbsdenver.files.wordpress.com/2013/09/nerrek-d-galley-1-his-facebook.jpg?w=420&h=315 I think that's a VEPR .308 |
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Posted: 9/8/2013 9:49:04 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: At first I thought this was a PSL, and liked the wood - but I see the 45 degree cut on the rear of the receiver, and vaguely recall a Saiga import for the civilian market in a hunting caliber that had nice wood on it. Can anyone ID it? http://cbsdenver.files.wordpress.com/2013/09/nerrek-d-galley-1-his-facebook.jpg?w=420&h=315 |
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Posted: 9/8/2013 9:49:32 AM EDT
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Her family even recognizes it as an accident but the cops still gotta try to pin something on the shooter. Hope there is more to the story on his arrest.Article says the charges are unrelated to the shooting. |
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Posted: 9/8/2013 9:49:38 AM EDT
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Well that sucks for everyone involved.
Tons of details missing but if I think I'm home alone and I hear noises in my closet and someone jumps out and rushes me screaming....They might just get shot. |
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Posted: 9/8/2013 9:50:47 AM EDT
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Having a flashlight mounted on your handgun helps a lot. Yes, BUT remember this is NOT your PRIMARY search light. It's ONLY for confirmation before you shoot. If you use this as your primary you'll be pointing your firearm at everything you're searching for - whether or not it's a target you want to destroy. This can lead to accidental discharges - or get yourself shot at as well. |
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Posted: 9/8/2013 9:51:56 AM EDT
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It doesn't say he shot her with a rifle. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I'm just a little skeptical on why he had the rifle pointed in that direction or how the event unfolded. It doesn't say he shot her with a rifle. Wow. You're absolutely right, and you know what? I "assumed" he did. Another lesson in being damn careful with media stories. I should know better. 
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Posted: 9/8/2013 9:52:32 AM EDT
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At first I thought this was a PSL, and liked the wood - but I see the 45 degree cut on the rear of the receiver, and vaguely recall a Saiga import for the civilian market in a hunting caliber that had nice wood on it. Can anyone ID it? http://cbsdenver.files.wordpress.com/2013/09/nerrek-d-galley-1-his-facebook.jpg?w=420&h=315 I want to say Valmet something or other?? Just a SWAG; I don't know. Nevermind. Beat by VEPR experts. |
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Posted: 9/8/2013 9:53:48 AM EDT
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Galley was arrested for charges unrelated to the shooting, but not unrelated to firearms. Satur said that Galley allegedly allowed Lal’s 15-year-old brother to possess a handgun with his parents’ permission, which is a felony in Colorado. He is being held on high bail because, according to the arresting officer Billy Sawyer, he “has no ties to the community with a permanent residence,” as he “has been in Colorado for a very short time and his family lives in Utah.” http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2013/09/08/eighteen-year-old-honor-student-shot-by-family-friend-in-extremely-tragic-prank/ |
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Posted: 9/8/2013 9:54:02 AM EDT
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More details are needed but if he didn't expect anybody in the house and someone jumped out of a closet at him, it lies solely on the person who got shot.
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Posted: 9/8/2013 9:55:13 AM EDT
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Good fucking grief. Some people are not responsible enough for owning a gun.
When we went into buildings we had it drilled in our fucking heads to still positively identify the target before shooting. If you can train soldiers to do that in a combat zone with enemy combatants. Then, there is no excuse a civilian cant do that when he/she should be smart enough to think there might be family home.
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Posted: 9/8/2013 10:02:58 AM EDT
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Very Sad, tragic loss of someone's beautiful daughter. I'm just a little skeptical on why he had the rifle pointed in that direction or how the event unfolded.I didn't see a rifle mentioned in the article. I saw a picture of the guy holding a rifle. |
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Posted: 9/8/2013 10:03:58 AM EDT
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Good fucking grief. Some people are not responsible enough for owning a gun. When we went into buildings we had it drilled in our fucking heads to still positively identify the target before shooting. If you can train soldiers to do that in a combat zone with enemy combatants. Then, there is no excuse a civilian cant do that when he/she should be smart enough to think there might be family home. What if they thought no one should be there? |
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Posted: 9/8/2013 10:06:02 AM EDT
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Posted: 9/8/2013 10:08:49 AM EDT
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Her family even recognizes it as an accident but the cops still gotta try to pin something on the shooter. Hope there is more to the story on his arrest.Article says the charges are unrelated to the shooting. Magazines? it is Colorado. |
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Posted: 9/8/2013 10:10:46 AM EDT
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Her family even recognizes it as an accident but the cops still gotta try to pin something on the shooter. Hope there is more to the story on his arrest.Article says the charges are unrelated to the shooting. Magazines? it is Colorado. Apparently he loaned the girl's underage brother a pistol. |
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Posted: 9/8/2013 10:41:24 AM EDT
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Good fucking grief. Some people are not responsible enough for owning a gun. When we went into buildings we had it drilled in our fucking heads to still positively identify the target before shooting. If you can train soldiers to do that in a combat zone with enemy combatants. Then, there is no excuse a civilian cant do that when he/she should be smart enough to think there might be family home. What if they thought no one should be there? He was wrong. |
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