https://www.federalregister.gov/articles/2013/09/09/2013-21661/background-checks-for-responsible-persons-of-a-corporation-trust-or-other-legal-entity-with-respect

More information incoming. I will be giving away a couple of gift cards to a random member who contacts the ATF/reps/CLEO during the 90 day period.

Here is the deal:
Starting Monday, September 9, we need to hit the comment period hard for ATF 41P! Instructions for submitting comments are at the bottom of this post. I will be giving out two gift cards to randomly selected members who submit comments. Please see the next section for how this will work.

Rules for giveaway:
Winners will be selected at random.
Members who contact ATF/Representatives/Senators/Governors/CLEOs/etc. will receive tickets for each letter. Tickets are essentially entries into the drawing. To get tickets, simply post in this thread with a SENT - (name and office of person contacted). Tickets will be awarded as follows:
Contact ATF - 3 Tickets
Any other contact - 1 Ticket

At the end, I will randomly select winners using Excel/VBA-fu. In effort to stay more transparent than the current administration, I will post my code before the selection.

What is to be had:
$35 Gift Certificate to site sponsor Bravo Company USA
$25 NRA Bass Pro Gift Card

Suggested talking points incoming

1. Proposal modifies intent of law without Congress (See Here)
2. Number of people on your trust (if you have one)(ATF estimates 2 per)
3. CLEOs refuse to sign due to politics, not for fear of liability. Remind them CLEOs are political figures.
4. Proposal necessitates legal action against CLEOs or ATF by some.
5. Possible violations of trust law
6. Puts CLEOs in charge of who may be added to a trust/corp/LLC. CLEOs and ATF will be meddling with people's estate planning.
7. ATF admits it already has tools to do BG checks.
8. Will place much greater burden on CLEOs
9. Loss of tax revenue

Instructions for letter submission (thanks tReznr):







Get at it ARFCOM!

I will be sending letters/emails ASAP. Of course this BS has to happen right just as I'm finally preparing to move to a state that allows NFA

Thanks for the info. Looks like it's time to fire up the letter writing machine.

WE NEED TO GET TACKY, SO WE CAN KEEP THE FIGHT UP FRONT

I'd be ok with it honestly (including the doing away with CLEO sign off) if they issued stamps at the POS after a phone in background check.



 

I'll be more than happy to comment on this!

Yup

Tag

 

Ideally there would be a way to show the danger the proposed changes would cause to existing and traditional corporate law outside the NFA situation.  Perhaps something like owning a corporation or trust and only being permitted to transfer the corporation or elect officers who meet the government's approval.  In the same way with the trust situation, If this would pass, A trustee would need to be approved by the government before they could serve in that position.  It is important for us to remember that the standards used today to pass the law can easily be changed in the future.

The US government has a no fly list.  Who determines who is permitted to fly on a plane?  How can one be removed from the list?  What is the criteria for being placed on the list?  Does anyone actually know?  -  Coming soon to an NFA (or any other) trust / Corp near you.

Exactly this. Since additions to the trust are required to submit CLEO approval, what happens if they cannot get it. At that point, the government is dictating who can/cannot be part of a legal entity and is also imposing on who may be part of an inheritance. This is worrisome beyond an NFA standpoint.

Updated with more information. Please note my instructions for receiving tickets. I would like to make sure everyone formats their posts properly so I do not miss anyone.

I will be pulling in some talking points tonight and tomorrow.

I can see a realistic argument to make stamps for silencers, SBRs and SBSs a point of sale issue-on-approval transaction.  Class III weapons could never be considered for such treatment without a monstrous political fight that would probably kill the entire issue of easing any NFA requirements.

Less than 24 hours gentlemen. Be sure to read the proposal and that you have a good understanding of it before commenting. Remember, we have 90 days so it is not a rush. Just make sure you do send something.

Does telling them to get fucked count. They might have unblocked me by now

Haha I wish I could say it did. Since they must respond to these, we really need to be sure we are giving them tough comments.

Comments open today. Going to give this a bump to the top.

Someone write me up something worthwhile and I'll send it.

Tagged to post link to sample comments.

I'm. Not exactly creative or thought provoking when it comes to these things. Are there any good copy/paste or examples floating around?

Yes, can we get this tacked please!

TriumphRider

Double tap...

Don't stop at comments. Call and write your representatives, make as much noise about this as possible.

Taggage.

Hit

Letter going out tomorrow morning

I'm in.

Tag for letter writing