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Of course nothing is really free, it is tax payers money. Some pay more taxes than others, some pay no taxes at all. Now, IMHO I'd rather have a HC system like the one in Canada, Spain, UK or France, rather than what you have in USA with companies looking to dodge payments and deny treatement as much as possible and living with fear of going broke if you get sick.
Look at it this way, your choice is either a healthcare system like Canada, Spain, UK or France where everyone receives good care (provided by the government), but no one receives exceptional care, or a healthcare system like America's where 30% receive good care and 70% receive exceptional care. Oh, and the icing on the cake is that in America for those 30% through hard work they can bump themselves up into the 70% bracket. This is why the well-to-do in socialist nations (like Canada, Spain, UK or France) come to America for exceptional quality medical care/treatment they either cannot get or have long waits for in their home countries.
Quoted: Thats just me, YMMV and all that. I dont understand how there doesnt seem to be a problem with "free" education (yes, we estabilisehd that, nothing is really free) but at the same time if you think of finding a similar compromise for keeping people healthy and alive the same mentlaity doesnt compute.
Oh, there are huge problems with "free" education in America. And it isn't free.
Quoted:If education is a right, isnt health a right as well?
There is no enumerated right to an education in our Constitution. A right by its definition cannot enslave someone else, hence the reason obtaining healthcare from someone else isn't a right. Things like education, a job, a home, healthcare, etc. a things of personal responsibility, not rights.
Quoted:IF you have the right to live and pursiut happyness shouldnt it be even implicit up to a point?
The implicit nature of rights is that they don't infringe upon another person's rights.
Quoted:If you look at the exorbitant costs of health insurance in USA, the profit these companies liek Humana have, the profit by hostpital and pharma companies, the insane fortunes made by some doctors to me it doesnt compute.
Most healthcare companies have profit margins in the single digit numbers. Apple Computer has a far greater profit margin than most healthcare companies. Do you have a problem with Apple's profits as well? Or just any company earning a profit? The reason America has been so prosperous is because capitalism allows people to do two things: reinvest profits back into their companies to grow them, and live a better life. This is why America has continued to grow and prosper while communist and socialist nations have stagnated or are slowly dying.
Quoted:Yes, I agree that a if a person can charge 1.000.000 USD for a minute of his serivce the free person in me says " you go man, charge as much as you want" at the same time if the entire system is set to screw desperate people, so that all doctors, all hosptials, and drug companies are plotted so as to get as much money out of you as they can and throw the rest, then that isnt right.
You need to ask yourself, why is that person charging that amount. Once you answer that question, correctly, it will open your eyes to a greater understanding of healthcare systems. I will give you a hint to help out - if a business has two customers, each wanting a service that costs the business $10 to perform, and one customers decides after services are rendered not to pay, how much must the business charge the second customer?