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Liberty86, in a similar thread I posed a reply to your views along with a question for you but you ignored it.

Let me try again =


[b]And where would third, fourth or fifth party candidates take us????? [/b]

Consider this:

1) Bush can't even get moderate conservatives appointed to the Federal Courts or Supreme Court. What chance in HELL do you think your "independant-party" President would have to get ANYONE approved by the Senate and appointed to the courts?

2) Bush has (apparently) the full support of Congress in deploying troops overseas to fight Al Qaeda. Just WHAT do you suppose your "independant-party" President would have to give up in order for Congress to "go along" with anything he'd want to do militarily or internationally (like pulling out of the UN, securing the borders, etc.)?

3) Bush has some VERY competent, rational and qualified people around him (Cheney, Rumsfeld, Rice etc.) who have the connections and widespread respect needed to make HIS administration effective in dealing with conflicting forces in Congress or around the world. Just WHO is going to be the advisors and cabinet-level "troops" in your "independant-party" President's administration that would have the "gravitas" to  neuter Congress and the media by their sheer experience and compentency?? (remember, you're not just voting for the man, you're voting for his entourage too - how deep is an independant-party candidate's entourage... think James Stockdale [%|] )

4) As far as "independant-party" Executives being the virtual Messiahs you all so expect, WHERE is the evidence that ANY "independant-pary" Executive actually WOULD be so different? What WONDEROUS things did Jesse Ventura do for Minnesota that any Republican or Democrat wouldn't have?


Ya' know, the problem with most "fringe-party" freaks is that they always want to stampede for the highest office in the land when no one from their party has even proven they can even be effective Mayors, Governors and Senators let alone President!

Look, I'm all for changing the direction of this government, but damn, do it from the LOCAL LEVEL UP!! Vote for the Libertarians and the Constitutionalists for state offices first and prove that their ideas and abilities actually can work.

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I am very disapointed in American politics.  The Demoncraps will be a disater for America.

The Republicans are just like the 'craps only a little slower getting there.

I don't think the Libertarians are the answer.  They are screwed up with things such as drugs, abortion and absolutely no outside intervention.

What we need is a Constitutional Party that will make major changes.  Reducing the amount of money the government collects to about 1/5 it is now,kicking anyone's ass who screws with us, kick out the stupid third worlders, restoring our 2nd Admendment rights etc.

The answer is not to vote for the lesser of two evils.  The answer is for Americans to take our country back.  Remember, sometimes to save a village you have to destory it.

 Posted by MisterGreens

I don't think the Constiution party is the answer. They are too caught up in godstuff, and in regards to drugs,
                who are you to tell me what I can or can't do to my own body on my own property?

                Think about that for a change.

 

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Last time I checked, under our system of government the legislature repeals laws.  The executive branch just can't do it on a whim.  I'm surprised all those Libertarians who have been successfully elected to the legislature aren't working on it.  

Oh...never mind.

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2) The MG ban was a (IIRC Dem sponsored) rider on an otherwise semi-usefull bill (IIRC, the FOPA repealed some of the more onerous GCA provisions). Reagan most likely decieded not to 'throw out the baby with the bath water', and signed it...