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Posted: 7/3/2012 3:24:20 PM EDT
Cisco locks customers out of their own routers, only lets them back in if they agree to being spied upon and monetizedhttp://boingboing.net/2012/07/03/cisco-locks-customers-out-of-t.html Owners of Cisco/Linksys home routers got a nasty shock this week, when their devices automatically downloaded a new operating system, which locked out device owners. After the update, the only way to reconfigure your router was to create an account on Cisco's "cloud" service, signing up to a service agreement that gives Cisco the right to spy on your Internet use and sell its findings, and also gives them the right to disconnect you (and lock you out of your router) whenever they feel like it. Not good, IMO. I don't think I'll be buying any more Cisco product. |
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Routers are cheap. I'd bash the thing inside out and send it to their headquarters, after having replaced it with a competing brand that doesn't demand spying rights.
CJ |
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Forget that. The company is probably ran by closet libs/commies and they will shut off your internet for posting on ARF.
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I agree that this sucks (and was a huge PR mistake on their part IMO), but it only affects a few models, and you can downgrade the OS to avoid the issue. Apparently the upper management did it to try to improve the service by looking at aggregate usage data, over the objections of the engineers.
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Quoted: DD-wrt I'm familiar with that, and Tomato for the older units. I had an old Linksys running Tomato for a while. Today, I've got a Netgear that my PS3 likes a whole lot more than the old Linksys. I'm thinking this is a terrible PR decision for Cisco. |
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Must be true cause it is on the internet.
Yet hear I am type through Linksys router that did none of that. How can this be... |
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Must be true cause it is on the internet. Yet hear I am type through Linksys router that did none of that. How can this be... Because it does not effect ALL their models. Reading is fundamental. |
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Quoted: Must be true cause it is on the internet. Yet hear I am type through Linksys router that did none of that. How can this be... If it didn't happen to you, it must not be true? |
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Routers are cheap. I'd bash the thing inside out and send it to their headquarters, after having replaced it with a competing brand that doesn't demand spying rights. CJ Something tells me that this is only the begining. |
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I agree that this sucks (and was a huge PR mistake on their part IMO), but it only affects a few models, and you can downgrade the OS to avoid the issue. Apparently the upper management did it to try to improve the service by looking at aggregate usage data, over the objections of the engineers. God durn awful decision by upper management. If this is true, I can see IT guys recommending family and friends to buy anything except Cisco for a home router. Maybe not much on their bottom line, but their PR could suffer big time. |
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Quoted: Quoted: Must be true cause it is on the internet. Yet hear I am type through Linksys router that did none of that. How can this be... Because it does not effect ALL their models. Reading is fundamental. Pleaee highlight in your favorite color where it says that: Owners of Cisco/Linksys home routers got a nasty shock this week, when their devices automatically downloaded a new operating system, which locked out device owners. |
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Quoted: Must be true cause it is on the internet. Yet hear I am type through Linksys router that did none of that. How can this be... Not exactly how it works. More info: http://www.extremetech.com/computing/132142-ciscos-cloud-vision-mandatory-monetized-and-killed-at-their-discretion |
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Quoted: Quoted: Must be true cause it is on the internet. Yet hear I am type through Linksys router that did none of that. How can this be... Not exactly how it works. More info: http://www.extremetech.com/computing/132142-ciscos-cloud-vision-mandatory-monetized-and-killed-at-their-discretion Thanks for providing a link that names the models that are affected: Last week, a number of Cisco customers began reporting problems with three specific Linksys-branded routers. When owners of the E2700, E3500, or E4500 attempted to log in to their devices, they were asked to login/register using their "Cisco Connect Cloud” account information. The story that’s emerged from this unexpected "upgrade” is a perfect example of how buzzword fixation can lead to extremely poor decisions. |
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Quoted: Quoted: Must be true cause it is on the internet. Yet hear I am type through Linksys router that did none of that. How can this be... If it didn't happen to you, it must not be true? It does make the statement incorrect. |
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Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Must be true cause it is on the internet. Yet hear I am type through Linksys router that did none of that. How can this be... Not exactly how it works. More info: http://www.extremetech.com/computing/132142-ciscos-cloud-vision-mandatory-monetized-and-killed-at-their-discretion Thanks for providing a link that names the models that are affected: Last week, a number of Cisco customers began reporting problems with three specific Linksys-branded routers. When owners of the E2700, E3500, or E4500 attempted to log in to their devices, they were asked to login/register using their "Cisco Connect Cloud” account information. The story that’s emerged from this unexpected "upgrade” is a perfect example of how buzzword fixation can lead to extremely poor decisions. I got that link from the bottom of the article linked in the OP. |
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DD-WRT has been good to me.
Most of my network functions any more advanced than the firewall are handled on my server anyway. Couldn't ever get the DD-WRT VPN to work. |
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I was on the Cisco Forums and they caught hell over this here is the way to fix the problem according to Cisco.
What a bunch of Intrusive Fucks. Rolling Back Cisco Cloud Connect Firmware On EA Series Routers |
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Didn't effect mine, but then again I am running Tomato. You won't run it on an EA 4500 because there is no version of Tomato for an EA4500 yet. |
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DD-WRT has been good to me. Most of my network functions any more advanced than the firewall are handled on my server anyway. Couldn't ever get the DD-WRT VPN to work. Not a DD WRT release for the EA4500 yet I have it on an older router and its fine. though. |
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Quoted: OK, after reading the article (I had already heard of the issue so I skipped it), I see that nowhere was it mentioned that only a few models are affected.Quoted: Quoted: Must be true cause it is on the internet. Yet hear I am type through Linksys router that did none of that. How can this be... If it didn't happen to you, it must not be true? It does make the statement incorrect. |
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Quoted: Quoted: OK, after reading the article (I had already heard of the issue so I skipped it), I see that nowhere was it mentioned that only a few models are affected.Quoted: Quoted: Must be true cause it is on the internet. Yet hear I am type through Linksys router that did none of that. How can this be... If it didn't happen to you, it must not be true? It does make the statement incorrect. Well I am glad I heard about it, I just bought an EA4500 about an hour ago. Still shrink-wrapped and in the Best Buy bag. Goes back tomorrow :-). Will get another E4200 instead. |
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Quoted: Quoted: Didn't effect mine, but then again I am running Tomato. You won't run it on an EA 4500 because there is no version of Tomato for an EA4500 yet. Mine's old. And when I upgrade it won't be to any Cisco product. |
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OK, after reading the article (I had already heard of the issue so I skipped it), I see that nowhere was it mentioned that only a few models are affected.
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Must be true cause it is on the internet. Yet hear I am type through Linksys router that did none of that. How can this be... If it didn't happen to you, it must not be true? It does make the statement incorrect. Well I am glad I heard about it, I just bought an EA4500 about an hour ago. Still shrink-wrapped and in the Best Buy bag. Goes back tomorrow :-). Will get another E4200 instead. I like my NetGear. |
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No shit they are fucktards!! My dumb ass just bought an EA2700 two weeks ago.
I may take it back to walmart. To roll the software back, I have to unplug it plus reinstall software. I could just as easily put it back in the box and return it. What does the Hive recommend as a replacement if I do? |
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Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: OK, after reading the article (I had already heard of the issue so I skipped it), I see that nowhere was it mentioned that only a few models are affected.Quoted: Quoted: Must be true cause it is on the internet. Yet hear I am type through Linksys router that did none of that. How can this be... If it didn't happen to you, it must not be true? It does make the statement incorrect. Well I am glad I heard about it, I just bought an EA4500 about an hour ago. Still shrink-wrapped and in the Best Buy bag. Goes back tomorrow :-). Will get another E4200 instead. I like my NetGear. Yeah, I have their switches. I should have dumped Linksys when Cisco bought them years ago. Will do it now. |
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I'd love to see them try this with their IOS-based products. I'm a huge Ciso fanboy and I realize their Linksys products are crap, but this is a ridiculously bad way to handle any part of their business.
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I'd love to see them try this with their IOS-based products. I'm a huge Ciso fanboy and I realize their Linksys products are crap, but this is a ridiculously bad way to handle any part of their business. If they did that with their IOS products they would lose customers enmasse. I rolled back my EA4500 it was not an issue that caused me a great deal of heart burn . I just won't be giving them more patronage for their home consumer products. I am willing to bet they get sued over this as well. This is prime class action territory and was clearly a bad move on their behalf. |
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They really want out of retail networking. They are going to succeed |
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I'd love to see them try this with their IOS-based products. I'm a huge Ciso fanboy and I realize their Linksys products are crap, but this is a ridiculously bad way to handle any part of their business. They are going to lose me over the Nexus line. They should've named it the Caveat line instead. |
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Cisco was mentioned recently as selling network monitoring gear to Iran and Syria. i guess we know where they got the practice...
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No shit they are fucktards!! My dumb ass just bought an EA2700 two weeks ago. I may take it back to walmart. To roll the software back, I have to unplug it plus reinstall software. I could just as easily put it back in the box and return it. What does the Hive recommend as a replacement if I do? My D-Link has been running well, DIR-655N I believe. Powerful home router, and easy to set up. Powerful in it's day anyways, I haven't had a reason to check lately. |
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Wonder if it is due to increased traffic due to people downloading firmware |
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Quoted: Quoted: No shit they are fucktards!! My dumb ass just bought an EA2700 two weeks ago. I may take it back to walmart. To roll the software back, I have to unplug it plus reinstall software. I could just as easily put it back in the box and return it. What does the Hive recommend as a replacement if I do? My D-Link has been running well, DIR-655N I believe. Powerful home router, and easy to set up. Powerful in it's day anyways, I haven't had a reason to check lately. I've been nothing but happy with mine. |
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Fuck that shit. If I had a Cisco router at my house it be in the trash...
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No shit they are fucktards!! My dumb ass just bought an EA2700 two weeks ago. I may take it back to walmart. To roll the software back, I have to unplug it plus reinstall software. I could just as easily put it back in the box and return it. What does the Hive recommend as a replacement if I do? Just roll the shit back.......fuck. |
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Wonder if it is due to increased traffic due to people downloading firmware It's back up now......and DD-WRT ftw. |
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Odd. This didn't happen to my 1941W. Its not an EA series.... Reading is fundamental. |
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No shit they are fucktards!! My dumb ass just bought an EA2700 two weeks ago. I may take it back to walmart. To roll the software back, I have to unplug it plus reinstall software. I could just as easily put it back in the box and return it. What does the Hive recommend as a replacement if I do? Just roll the shit back.......fuck. QFT |
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