Thread title is misleading.

You make an Excellent point...

"The next-to-last sentence reads: "In some cases,
in order to provide an optimal experience on your home network, some
updates may still be automatically applied, regardless of the
auto-update setting.”"

 

Jesus fuck....some people on here.

"Arf, should I pack up the router I bought and have been using for the past 2 weeks, then get in my car, waste some gas and go to Walmart to return a product only to go to the shelf and buy a new one?"

For fuck's sake.

Okay....and?  If they try to do this shit again, customers will complain and they'll undo it.  If it happens again, THEN you get rid of their product.

I would roll it back and save the gas. I rolled mine back in less than 5 minutes.  

Linksys/Cisco needs a boycott for this.  They and their competitors need to learn this was a very  stupid and expensive mistake.   I used to swear by Linksys, but with their current junk they sell and this fiasco I'm done w/ them.

I will not buy another one. I am a big believe in corrective action . They need a swift kick in the ass over this.  Like I said earlier this is prime for a class action law suit.

FWIW, I simply copied/pasted the title of the article.



 

Never been a big Cisco fan even back when they were the only game in town for routers (early-mid 90's) and now I'm Cisco/Linksys free. I'm running Engenious stuff and I really like it.



I got my Cisco cert way back in 1994 or so. Worthless waste of time and money.

ive been saying this over and over again

i feel bad especially for the people who've gotten CCIE etc, so worthless to employers

Indusry standard  I have not been a place yet that has not ask me from the get go if I had a CCNA

You don't got to like it but thats the ugly truth.

Slight hijak... I'm looking for a router right now and had my eye on the 2700.  What device in this range do others prefer?  Netgear?  Asus?  
 

Im starting to see a pattern;

my cisco router seems fine. if it pulls this 'upgrade' shit, i will destroy it joyfully.

Welcome to machine...

Buffalo makes a hell of a good router.

Fuck really.  Will it really be ok with you then?   God. Fuck.

Cough...

I must be the onliest one rocking a Belkin.  

ASUS RT-N66U

Fuck linksys/cisco.

Click pick for link to newegg product page

That's kinda how I feel about some sissy whining about having to unplug his router and reinstall software.

Got damn......$170.....fuck me.

If you get tired of playing with toys, come play with the big boys.



But seriously, if all you do is arfcom you will need nothing like this.  



I love mine. USB ports are handy. If you are a geek it is worth the price.





 

Can't throw that out there without a link...

 

Thats very reasonably priced , trying to stream movies over a cheap router sux ass in the worst possible way. I think I will order one of the ASUS routers as a back up so when the Cisco fails I will have a standby

For home use, that's a hell of a lot of router.



I might need one.



 

Oh, I know.....but still, fuck me.

I love mine. The range on it is insane. You can crank up the transmit power to 500mw (maybe even higher)

This thing lets you configure most of the shit people install dd-wrt to do.

It rules.

And it will torrent for you.

For that kind of money I can build a pfsense box and run a Cisco access point.  (Which is what I have)  That's too expensive for me.

No espresso maker = no care.

Routers shouldn't do torrents IMO.  Just another weak point to compromise them.  

Try "Concentration of unchecked power in the hands of a few = surrounding mass of individuals all get fucked"

Anybody who trusts unchecked power in the hands of a self-interested corporation any more than they trust self-interested power in the hands of a government shouldn't be the least bit surprised when it is abused the same way...  

You are correct.  So very right!

Cisco/Linksys backpedals on privacy policy after uproar:

http://www.pcworld.com/businesscenter/article/258694/cisco_changes_privacy_policy_for_linksys_routers_after_uproar.html

Cisco Systems said a privacy policy for the Cisco Connect Cloud service that alarmed some customers was a mistake and has been removed.

The cloud service, which among other things allows users of some Wi-Fi home routers to manage their devices from away from home, went live last week and was included in an automatic firmware update to those routers. That brought a flood of complaints to online forums about both the firmware update and the privacy document, which said Cisco might track and share information about customers' Internet use and other data.

"We removed content that could have been misinterpreted as being inconsistent with Cisco's privacy statement based on a selective analysis," Cisco said in a statement.

"In a nutshell, this was just a mistake," Cisco spokesman David McCulloch said.

The specific privacy policy for the cloud service is contained in a "Cisco Connect Cloud Supplement," that expands upon Cisco's general corporate privacy policy. There is a link to the supplement on the right side of the general privacy page. Parts of the supplement, including the reference to collecting Internet history, have been removed. McCulloch said he could not immediately explain how the stricken language was included by mistake.

Some users of the Linksys EA3500 and EA4500 routers wrote on online forums last week that Cisco apparently had updated the firmware on their routers automatically without their consent. The new firmware prompted them to start managing their routers through the Cisco Connect Cloud service, which administers a router over the Internet instead of directly over the wireless LAN. Some users said they weren't able to keep managing their routers locally except through a limited interface that lacked features they were used to.

Along the way, one user pointed out a section of the privacy policy for Cisco Connect Cloud that said the company might keep track of a variety of information including Internet history and might share "aggregated and anonymous user experience information" with service providers and other third parties.

The updated privacy supplement for the cloud service says, "Cisco may collect and store detailed information regarding your network configuration and usage for the purpose of providing you technical networking support." It says that data will be associated with the customer only when he or she provides an ID number, randomly generated and under the user's control, to the support representative.

An administrator on the Cisco Home Community forum subsequently posted a link to instructions for downgrading the routers' firmware and opting out of future automatic upgrades.

But Cisco also responded to the complaints with a dedicated post to its official blog on Friday.

"Cisco Connect Cloud was delivered only to consumers who opted in to automatic updates. However, we apologize that the opt-out process for Cisco Connect Cloud and automatic updates was not more clear in this product release, and we are developing an updated version that will improve this process," Cisco Home Networking Vice President and General Manager Brett Wingo wrote in the blog post. The post directed customers who wanted to return to the traditional Linksys management software to call the Linksys customer support line.

The blog post also partly addressed the questions about the privacy policy but didn't say the "Cisco Connect Cloud Supplement" had been changed. McCullough said on Monday that the blog might be updated.

Linksys is a brand used on products from Cisco's Home Networking Business Unit.

Yeppers

Shit, Gas is cheap compared to privacy.  Walmart is just a mile or so away.

I buy from newegg anyway, I'll order a new router from them.................

This thread reminds me that I need a new router...

Those Buffalo ones any good?  Specifically the AC1300 / N900.

I have a Buffalo Airstation that I am very pleased with.  It's worked well for years.  Very good range.

192.168.1.1..............yup, my e3000 is still under my control. If that ever changes, I have a 10lbs sledge in the shed and will modify it to a more suitable configuration.

Most bad ass router with latest technology is bad ass.

And expensive. If you have to ask...........

I suspect that there's a little bit of sensationalist spin on this Cisco/Linksys story, but I can't imagine any circumstances under which I'd be happy to have the administration of a device I own forcefully "outsourced".

^^^^^This

Makes me glad I chose my Netgear when I was upgrading my router a few months back.

Wow...
That's BS.

I'm running m0n0wall on a Soekris net4801-that Soekris is the baby brother to what my company uses in it's branch offices. If any of you like to tinker around with this stuff, it's easy to set up and customize

Our bigger offices and call centers use Cisco 2841 ISRs, but that's a whole different kettle of fish.

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