A Romney nomination = An Obama second term

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Posted: 1/4/2012 4:24:13 AM EDT

Rino Romney can't win no matter what teh elites of teh rep party say or the money the country clubbers throw at him. He has not been able to get more the about 25% of the base of the party behind him. And mark these words there is a lot of the base that will not vote for him in the general election if he is force down their throats. Look for them to either stay home or go to a third party. Besides there is not much a differnece between teh 2 and given a choice beetween a socialist adn a socialist trying to play a conservative they will pick the socialist everytime.

Posted: 1/4/2012 4:25:30 AM EDT

[#1]

You don't understand politics?

Who would beat Obama?

Posted: 1/4/2012 4:30:52 AM EDT

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You don't understand politics?

Who would beat Obama?

no one

Posted: 1/4/2012 4:34:23 AM EDT

[#3]

And if Romney gets the nomination, are you going to vote for Obama?

Whoever gets the nomination, I'm votiing for that guy. Anything but Obama.

Posted: 1/4/2012 4:35:58 AM EDT

[#4]

Major polls say otherwise. Always subject to change of course, but generally the American people as a whole electorate prefer Romney to another candidate. I know polls aren't everything, but they aren't nothing either.

Posted: 1/4/2012 4:36:10 AM EDT

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And if Romney gets the nomination, are you going to vote for Obama?

Whoever gets the nomination, I'm votiing for that guy. Anything but Obama.

No I will go third party, there is no way I can vote for a lying gungrabber like Rino Romney.

Posted: 1/4/2012 4:38:25 AM EDT

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this is chess, not checkers, as I have been told multiple times on Arfcom. Not sure what the hell that means, other than "slob that RINO cock good, boy, slobber it good!"

Posted: 1/4/2012 4:41:08 AM EDT

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There are many pragmatic Republican voters who may not vote for Romney in the primary but will do anything possible to avoid an Obama second term. A lame duck Obama presidency would bring great pain and suffering on this nation.

Posted: 1/4/2012 4:41:28 AM EDT

[#8]

Fuck Obama and fuck Obama-Lite

Posted: 1/4/2012 4:43:21 AM EDT

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You don't understand politics?

Who would beat Obama?

no one

Not in Illinios. sorry. That must suck.

Posted: 1/4/2012 4:43:32 AM EDT

[#10]

Meh...I think Romney has the only chance of beating Obama. He at least has a much better chance then the others....especially Santorum or Paul. That is not an endorsement by me, just an objective political assessment.

Posted: 1/4/2012 4:45:06 AM EDT

[#11]

Mitt Romney is (R)Obama. I'll vote third party or not at all if he is the candidate.

Posted: 1/4/2012 4:46:31 AM EDT

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And if Romney gets the nomination, are you going to vote for Obama?

Whoever gets the nomination, I'm votiing for that guy. Anything but Obama.

No I will go third party, there is no way I can vote for a lying gungrabber like Rino Romney.

Would you please stop lying about Gov Romney. Please get informed so we can get President Obama back home to chicago. where he belongs.

Posted: 1/4/2012 4:48:46 AM EDT

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There are many pragmatic Republican voters who may not vote for Romney in the primary but will do anything possible to avoid an Obama second term. A lame duck Obama presidency would bring great pain and suffering on this nation.

This. If you believe otherwise, you're not thinking about the big picture and you'll help to damage the country further by putting bama back in.

This is going to basically come down to the USSC justices who will be replaced in the next four years. If you see that Obama gets back in, you will guarantee the court swing anti gun. What a fucking short sighted, idiotic, assinine move.

Posted: 1/4/2012 4:49:38 AM EDT

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this is chess, not checkers, as I have been told multiple times on Arfcom. Not sure what the hell that means, other than "slob that RINO cock good, boy, slobber it good!"

Romney gives us 4 more years of Obama no matter who wins in November...

Posted: 1/4/2012 4:52:17 AM EDT

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There are many pragmatic Republican voters who may not vote for Romney in the primary but will do anything possible to avoid an Obama second term. A lame duck Obama presidency would bring great pain and suffering on this nation.

This. If you believe otherwise, you're not thinking about the big picture and you'll help to damage the country further by putting bama back in.

This is going to basically come down to the USSC justices who will be replaced in the next four years. If you see that Obama gets back in, you will guarantee the court swing anti gun. What a fucking short sighted, idiotic, assinine move.

I can't argue with this. If one wants to not vote for Romney on principle...well I can respect that. But this constant chorus that Romney is no better or worse than Obama is crazy talk. I have plenty of problems with him as well, but I think he would at least be marginally better than Obama if not significantly better than Obama esp. on the economy and judicial appointments.

Posted: 1/4/2012 4:59:56 AM EDT

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Good grief, I wonder how some of you find the motivation to pull yourselves out of bed in the morning will all this negativity. Yes, the GOP nominee is likely to be Romney but so what people; while not ideal he's a quantum leap improvement over Obama. Some of you think Romney will be a bigger gun-grabber than Obama but even *if* that were true, (it's not BTW,) a GOP House and Senate would blunt that. With a 2nd Obama term you'll have F&F kicked up a notch and probably the FBI and CIA even getting in on the domestic folly's. If Obama wins re-election it's likely the Senate will stay Dem controlled and even the House; if this happens Obama will be unchecked his second-term and would have at least one additional SCOTUS appointment.

Some of you need to think long and hard about throwing a political temper-tantrum. At least conservatives will have some influence over a Romney president, how much do you think they'd have over an Obama second-term. Again, we didn't get in this mess overnight and we sure won't get out of it any faster.......

Posted: 1/4/2012 5:06:58 AM EDT

[#17]

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Major polls say otherwise. Always subject to change of course, but generally the American people as a whole electorate prefer Romney to another candidate. I know polls aren't everything, but they aren't nothing either.

This.

Add to that Mittins and low turn-out means a GOP win. Don't underestimate the advantage a candidate that is not polarizing and seems competent has with Independents. If you give the electorate someone to hate they will.....Just saying.

Posted: 1/4/2012 5:08:59 AM EDT

[#18]

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Good grief, I wonder how some of you find the motivation to pull yourselves out of bed in the morning will all this negativity. Yes, the GOP nominee is likely to be Romney but so what people; while not ideal he's a quantum leap improvement over Obama. Some of you think Romney will be a bigger gun-grabber than Obama but even *if* that were true, (it's not BTW,) a GOP House and Senate would blunt that. With a 2nd Obama term you'll have F&F kicked up a notch and probably the FBI and CIA even getting in on the domestic folly's. If Obama wins re-election it's likely the Senate will stay Dem controlled and even the House; if this happens Obama will be unchecked his second-term and would have at least one additional SCOTUS appointment.

Some of you need to think long and hard about throwing a political temper-tantrum. At least conservatives will have some influence over a Romney president, how much do you think they'd have over an Obama second-term. Again, we didn't get in this mess overnight and we sure won't get out of it any faster.......

Unfortunately, there are many who forget that this is a Center-Right country. It isnt a Right-Far Right country like this board may be.

To say that Romney has no chance in beating Obama when every poll says otherwise is just putting your political head in the sand

Posted: 1/4/2012 5:10:26 AM EDT

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this is chess, not checkers, as I have been told multiple times on Arfcom. Not sure what the hell that means, other than "slob that RINO cock good, boy, slobber it good!"

Romney gives us 4 more years of Obama no matter who wins in November...

Amen.

Posted: 1/4/2012 5:10:27 AM EDT

[#20]

I really wish the election would get here faster........

Posted: 1/4/2012 5:12:07 AM EDT

[#21]

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this is chess, not checkers, as I have been told multiple times on Arfcom. Not sure what the hell that means, other than "slob that RINO cock good, boy, slobber it good!"

What is amusing is you think this is a game. You are sitting there playing "Chess" and they aren't even in the game. Jokes on you.

Posted: 1/4/2012 5:13:53 AM EDT

[#22]

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Fuck Obama and fuck Obama-Lite

You gonna get the AIDS from Obama.

Impeach Obama for the Good of the Children.

Posted: 1/4/2012 5:18:20 AM EDT

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You don't understand politics?

Who would beat Obama?

Nobody that is offered in the current crop of worthless candidates.

Posted: 1/4/2012 5:22:15 AM EDT

[#24]

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You don't understand politics?

Who would beat Obama?

no one

I don't believe any of the current crop has the politics to beat him.

They are either schizophrenic (RP bringing home the earmarks, while denouncing them

) or are just a lighter version of BHO himself (light as in 'not quite-as-socialist).

Posted: 1/4/2012 5:33:19 AM EDT

[#25]

Those who think Romney is a lesser Obama, truly have no idea what type of man Obama is. And especially what he will implement in his second term. Believe it or not, we have yet to see Obama's true colors. If he is re-elected, he will go full steam ahead with his socialist agenda as it is a lame duck term.

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Posted: 1/4/2012 5:46:03 AM EDT

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Those who think Romney is a lesser Obama, truly have no idea what type of man Obama is. And especially what he will implement in his second term. Believe it or not, we have yet to see Obama's true colors. If he is re-elected, he will go full steam ahead with his socialist agenda as it is a lame duck term.

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Don't rob them of their piety and purity, brother.

Don't you know all these chaste third party voters never drank and drove, never cheated at cards, never told a lie, never cheated on a test, never failed to signal, never failed to close the cover before striking, never fucked a fat chick.

They will hold their heads high in righteous glory as el Presidente Barry Soterro Barack Hussein Obama the most high jug-eared-wookie-humper is coronated next January to complete his mission of social justice, fairness and equality of outcome. By January 2014 you will be able to order Koch Brothers pate at your local McDonald's. (Not Koch Brothers Brand pate- pate made from the actual Koch brothers.)

Posted: 1/4/2012 6:04:36 AM EDT

[#27]

Romney vs. Obama.

Romney... Business mogul
Obama... Community organizer. Has never given anyone a job, and has never had to fire anyone.

Romney... Former Stake President in the LDS Church. Thousands (literally) of parishoners looked to him for moral guidance.
Obama... His minister said, "G–– Da–– America!"

Romney... The NRA, and the gun owners association in MA both stated that Romney *increased* gun rights in MA. His voting record did not match his ill-concieved and idiotic "assault weapons" statments when it came down to vote on gun rights.
Obama... Has a clear anti-gun record from local politics in IL

Romney... In the face of a liberal state political system that wanted total .gov control of health care, instituted a system where he tried to maintain the free-market, control malpractice costs, and force those who have no desire to pay for health care to start paying their way. Perfect? Not by any means. But you cannot fault the guy for fighting the Dems, and trying to avoid total .gov control of health care.
Obama... Wants total .gov control of health care. No insurance companies. No free-market. Nothing.

The choice between Romney and Obama is clear...

Posted: 1/4/2012 6:17:12 AM EDT

[#28]

You are mistaken about how politics works on a national scale.

It is easier to get a parties base to line up behind a candidate they don't like much, when they are compared to what the other party offers, than it is to get the middle ground you need to win in the real election to line up behind a candidate that the base likes a bunch.

I am not a Romney fan, but he would be better than Obama and could easily defeat him.

Posted: 1/4/2012 6:26:44 AM EDT

[#29]

Romney is the next McCain. Picked by the Democrats to lose. Obama is in for the next four years, that's a lock. The only question is if he'll continue on after that Kim Jong Il style, or pass his power on to the next "elected" Democrat.

Posted: 1/4/2012 6:31:34 AM EDT

[#30]

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And if Romney gets the nomination, are you going to vote for Obama?

Whoever gets the nomination, I'm votiing for that guy. Anything but Obama.

No I will go third party, there is no way I can vote for a lying gungrabber like Rino Romney.

Look man I am a right wing para military extremist Confederate American. I am not fired up on any of the R candidates. But the fact is the President only signs or vetoes legislation. He can drive the agenda somewhat, but the House and Senate are whats really important. That and Supreme Court nominees. If O wins again and he appoints even one more justice we and our kids are fucked. That is the bottom line. It took a long time for things to get this messed up and it will take a long time for things to get sorted out even if we don't witness a global financial meltdown in 2012. Stop whining and do what is possible to slow down the bleeding. Romney won't be grabbing any guns. Hell Obama hasn't even had a chance to sign any gun control legislation. He had to resort to Soviet style BS with Fast and Furious and that worked about as well as a football bat.

Posted: 1/4/2012 6:32:50 AM EDT

[#31]

Best case Obama 1 more term
Worst case White Obama for 2 more terms.

Posted: 1/4/2012 6:36:53 AM EDT

[#32]

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Good grief, I wonder how some of you find the motivation to pull yourselves out of bed in the morning will all this negativity. Yes, the GOP nominee is likely to be Romney but so what people; while not ideal he's a quantum leap improvement over Obama. Some of you think Romney will be a bigger gun-grabber than Obama but even *if* that were true, (it's not BTW,) a GOP House and Senate would blunt that. With a 2nd Obama term you'll have F&F kicked up a notch and probably the FBI and CIA even getting in on the domestic folly's. If Obama wins re-election it's likely the Senate will stay Dem controlled and even the House; if this happens Obama will be unchecked his second-term and would have at least one additional SCOTUS appointment.

Some of you need to think long and hard about throwing a political temper-tantrum. At least conservatives will have some influence over a Romney president, how much do you think they'd have over an Obama second-term. Again, we didn't get in this mess overnight and we sure won't get out of it any faster.......

Unfortunately, there are many who forget that this is a Center-Right country. It isnt a Right-Far Right country like this board may be.

To say that Romney has no chance in beating Obama when every poll says otherwise is just putting your political head in the sand

Not to mention that the dems will have a hard-time painting Romney as a bible-thumper looking to install morality cams into everyone's bedrooms and make sure we can only listen/watch G-rated movies and songs. This won't stop them from trying and I expect a massive push by the anti-Morman's here and elsewhere. Romney is my last choice in this but just damn the guy is STILL better than SCFOMF.

Posted: 1/4/2012 6:38:21 AM EDT

[#33]

Whether there is an "R" or a "D" after the name, Obunghole will have a second term

Posted: 1/4/2012 6:42:11 AM EDT

[#34]

Groan

Posted: 1/4/2012 6:42:18 AM EDT

[#35]

Would Romney be better than obama for the economy and the American business climate?

As bad as Romney seems, he is still light years better than obama.

Posted: 1/4/2012 6:48:03 AM EDT

[#36]

The problem with Romney is conservatives look at him and go "YUCK".

Yes, he will appeal (sort of) to the squishy middle. The problem is that while moderates, if given enough incentive, go vote, they don't work for candidates. It's the hard-core who volunteer, put up yard signs, put bumper stickers on their cars, make phone calls, stuff envelopes, work the polls, walk the neighborhoods, write letters to the editor, etc. They are the ones who get the vote out for their candidate.

So, the conservatives will go to the polls. They may even hold their noses, stifle their gag reflex, and vote for Romney just because Obama truly does suck. But - and here's the kicker - they won't work for Romney, and that's where we'll see the difference at the polls. No Republican can win on a "At least I'm not as bad as Obama" campaign. Bob Dole tried that against Clinton and failed.

Posted: 1/4/2012 6:48:23 AM EDT

[#37]

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Good grief, I wonder how some of you find the motivation to pull yourselves out of bed in the morning will all this negativity. Yes, the GOP nominee is likely to be Romney but so what people; while not ideal he's a quantum leap improvement over Obama. Some of you think Romney will be a bigger gun-grabber than Obama but even *if* that were true, (it's not BTW,) a GOP House and Senate would blunt that. With a 2nd Obama term you'll have F&F kicked up a notch and probably the FBI and CIA even getting in on the domestic folly's. If Obama wins re-election it's likely the Senate will stay Dem controlled and even the House; if this happens Obama will be unchecked his second-term and would have at least one additional SCOTUS appointment.

Some of you need to think long and hard about throwing a political temper-tantrum. At least conservatives will have some influence over a Romney president, how much do you think they'd have over an Obama second-term. Again, we didn't get in this mess overnight and we sure won't get out of it any faster.......

We heard the same thing with McCain, how'd that work out?

Posted: 1/4/2012 6:49:19 AM EDT

[#38]

I will not vote for romney. Say what you will about it being a vote for obama, but i will not stamp off on a gun grabbing, lefty, slime ball rino.

Posted: 1/4/2012 6:50:50 AM EDT

[#39]

Milquetoast moderate voters decide general elections, not so much "the base".

More conservatives voted in the '08 election than ever before. So McCain succeeded in turning out "the base", and yet still lost because the independents overwhelmingly went for Obama.

As long as "the base" turns out, Independents will decide the election.

Posted: 1/4/2012 6:51:35 AM EDT

[#40]

After reading actual Romney accomplishments, he is starting to sound like a guy that many here could get behind if they bothered to get informed.

Posted: 1/4/2012 6:51:42 AM EDT

[#41]

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The problem with Romney is conservatives look at him and go "YUCK".

Yes, he will appeal (sort of) to the squishy middle. The problem is that while moderates, if given enough incentive, go vote, they don't work for candidates. It's the hard-core who volunteer, put up yard signs, put bumper stickers on their cars, make phone calls, stuff envelopes, work the polls, walk the neighborhoods, write letters to the editor, etc. They are the ones who get the vote out for their candidate.

So, the conservatives will go to the polls. They may even hold their noses, stifle their gag reflex, and vote for Romney just because Obama truly does suck. But - and here's the kicker - they won't work for Romney, and that's where we'll see the difference at the polls. No Republican can win on a "At least I'm not as bad as Obama" campaign. Bob Dole tried that against Clinton and failed.

Yep

Posted: 1/4/2012 6:51:51 AM EDT

[#42]

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Good grief, I wonder how some of you find the motivation to pull yourselves out of bed in the morning will all this negativity. Yes, the GOP nominee is likely to be Romney but so what people; while not ideal he's a quantum leap improvement over Obama. Some of you think Romney will be a bigger gun-grabber than Obama but even *if* that were true, (it's not BTW,) a GOP House and Senate would blunt that. With a 2nd Obama term you'll have F&F kicked up a notch and probably the FBI and CIA even getting in on the domestic folly's. If Obama wins re-election it's likely the Senate will stay Dem controlled and even the House; if this happens Obama will be unchecked his second-term and would have at least one additional SCOTUS appointment.

Some of you need to think long and hard about throwing a political temper-tantrum. At least conservatives will have some influence over a Romney president, how much do you think they'd have over an Obama second-term. Again, we didn't get in this mess overnight and we sure won't get out of it any faster.......

We heard the same thing with McCain, how'd that work out?

McCain was still in the race to win right up until the economy went to crap a month out. Events killed his chances more than anything, I doubt that anyone with an R after their name was going to win that election.

Posted: 1/4/2012 6:53:41 AM EDT

[#43]

I'm afraid I'm starting to think any of the current candidates can't beat OBummer either.

Posted: 1/4/2012 6:53:44 AM EDT

[#44]

I love a good "Romney is unelectable" thread from the Ron fucking Paul camp. Half the people who like Paul wouldn't vote for him. He defines "unelectable."

Posted: 1/4/2012 6:53:51 AM EDT

[#45]

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After reading actual Romney accomplishments, he is starting to sound like a guy that many here could get behind if they bothered to get informed.

I sorry but that is like saying "that rapist is a really good guy....................other than the rape part"

Romney signed a law to permanently ban many semi-automatic firearms. “These guns are not made for recreation or self-defense,” Romney said in 2004. ”They are instruments of destruction with the sole purpose of hunting down and killing people"

Posted: 1/4/2012 6:54:51 AM EDT

[#46]

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Rino Romney can't win no matter what teh elites of teh rep party say or the money the country clubbers throw at him. He has not been able to get more the about 25% of the base of the party behind him.

If the choice is between Romney and a half dozen not-Romney candidates in a Republican primary it's not terribly shocking that there would be a lot of people who want to vote for someone other than a Massachusetts type with a wobbly political record.

If the choice is between Romney and the guy who has been fucking up the economy, fucking up foreign policy, and generally being the most incompetent boob to sit in the office in our lifetimes...well...they just might vote for the guy with the politician hair.

The elements of the base who sit at home because they think they're striking a grand blow for freedom by non-participation are delusional.

Barring anything unforseen (yes, I know it's high comedy to use that phrase in regards to politics) we'll have a choice between a Massachusetts middle-of-the-roader who can be scared into doing the right thing on occasion by aggressive pressure from the right, or we'll have Mr. "I won", the guy who has been selling guns to mexican cartels so he can push gun control while blaming his political opposition for shooting congresswomen and terrorist acts appointing judges who will inflict his twisted vision of "progress" on us for the next 20+ years.

No, those are not pretty choices. But those are the choices. You have to pick one...and refusing to pick one is still picking one.

Posted: 1/4/2012 6:55:07 AM EDT

[#47]

Third party at this point. I would vote for Paul only for about 20% of what he believes in. At least he would gut fiscal spending and get our budget balanced. Won't vote for Santorum or Romney, neither are conservative enough. So I'm stuck with the Loon or a third party candidate.

Posted: 1/4/2012 6:55:48 AM EDT

[#48]

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After reading actual Romney accomplishments, he is starting to sound like a guy that many here could get behind if they bothered to get informed.

I sorry but that is like saying "that rapist is a really good guy....................other than the rape part"

So, Oliver, what did Romney do that was so bad?

Posted: 1/4/2012 6:55:54 AM EDT

[#49]

If this were a old movie, this is the point where Bogart would bitch smack you and tell you to get ahold of yourself.

Posted: 1/4/2012 6:56:28 AM EDT

[#50]

Barring anything unforseen (yes, I know it's high comedy to use that phrase in regards to politics) we'll have a choice between a Massachusetts middle-of-the-roader who can be scared into doing the right thing on occasion by aggressive pressure from the right, or we'll have Mr. "I won", the guy who has been selling guns to mexican cartels so he can push gun control while blaming his political opposition for shooting congresswomen and terrorist acts appointing judges who will inflict his twisted vision of "progress" on us for the next 20+ years.

No, those are not pretty choices. But those are the choices. You have to pick one...and refusing to pick one is still picking one.

QFT

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