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Posted: 6/18/2011 6:22:45 PM EDT
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With no foxholes, atheists thrive.
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Posted: 6/18/2011 6:36:35 PM EDT
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Glad to hear this
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Posted: 6/18/2011 6:51:04 PM EDT
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they've got one big problem though ... hell is waiting for them. |
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Posted: 6/18/2011 6:54:15 PM EDT
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Never heard of them or any of those meetings movements or whatever.
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Posted: 6/18/2011 6:54:47 PM EDT
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they've got one big problem though ... hell is waiting for them. This. |
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Posted: 6/18/2011 7:34:33 PM EDT
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Is it just me, or does it kinda sound like the atheists are forming.......... a religion?...
The irony................ Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile |
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Posted: 6/18/2011 8:08:21 PM EDT
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I don't want to spend my free time going to a pizza party with Jesus, so what makes them think I want to spend it talking about how Jesus doesn't exist?
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Posted: 6/19/2011 8:09:18 AM EDT
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Quoted: Is it just me, or does it kinda sound like the atheists are forming.......... a religion?... The irony................ Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile Sure. If you take away the magic. And the need for a supernatural Big Brother. And the recycled stories. And the voluminous hidebound dogma. Sure, their identical. Don't get me wrong though, this is one of my concerns:  |
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Posted: 6/19/2011 8:13:47 AM EDT
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I'll keep them in my prayers.
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Posted: 6/19/2011 8:14:23 AM EDT
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I don't understand the one in Turkey-a Turkish co-worker's husband had to go fulfill his reservist obligation there a few years ago, and their military is so secular that NO relgious texts are allowed in their BCT units.
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Posted: 6/19/2011 8:14:39 AM EDT
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Makes OP a happy boy.
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Posted: 6/19/2011 8:15:14 AM EDT
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they've got one big problem though ... hell is waiting for them. pray for them |
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Posted: 6/19/2011 8:16:18 AM EDT
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Quoted: Quoted: they've got one big problem though ... hell is waiting for them. pray for them More of them than you might realize are ok with that. I am. |
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Posted: 6/19/2011 8:16:22 AM EDT
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Posted: 6/19/2011 8:18:25 AM EDT
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Is this part of the new gays in the military policy
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Posted: 6/19/2011 8:23:45 AM EDT
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Quoted: Is this part of the new gays in the military policy Why? You looking for a date? |
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Posted: 6/19/2011 8:50:55 AM EDT
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Why does it always come back to sex with you people. No i don't want to date you. I was trying to figure out the connection between gays in the military and athiest coming out
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Posted: 6/19/2011 8:52:09 AM EDT
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they've got one big problem though ... hell is waiting for them. pray for them More of them than you might realize are ok with that. I am. cool |
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Posted: 6/19/2011 8:56:15 AM EDT
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Quoted: they've got one big problem though ... hell is waiting for them. I'm more inclined to believe in the damnation of somebody who judges others purely on their spiritual beliefs (or lack thereof) than by their accomplishments, such as going to war for your ass. Quoted: With no foxholes, atheists thrive. The inside of an armored vehicle is the new foxhole. |
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Posted: 6/19/2011 8:57:47 AM EDT
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If you're a humanist, does that mean you're like racist against animals?
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Posted: 6/19/2011 9:01:51 AM EDT
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Posted: 6/19/2011 9:07:33 AM EDT
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Is it just me, or does it kinda sound like the atheists are forming.......... a religion?... The irony................ Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile Sure. If you take away the magic. And the need for a supernatural Big Brother. And the recycled stories. And the voluminous hidebound dogma. Sure, their identical. Don't get me wrong though, this is one of my concerns: http://images.wikia.com/southpark/images/0/01/GoGodGoXII13.jpg I'm just saying that when a bunch of people with the same belief system gather together on a regular basis, its basically a religion. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile |
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Posted: 6/19/2011 10:44:56 AM EDT
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Quoted: If you're a humanist, does that mean you're like racist against animals? Um, wut? |
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Posted: 6/19/2011 10:45:36 AM EDT
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Quoted: Why does it always come back to sex with you people. No i don't want to date you. I was trying to figure out the connection between gays in the military and athiest coming out Why are you assuming there is one? |
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Posted: 6/19/2011 10:50:32 AM EDT
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Atheists and humanists in the military continue to come together throughout the world. From Japan to Italy and throughout the US, leaders are stepping up. Communities are forming as well, in some cases with the help of local chaplains. The following is a series of reports on successes at the grass-roots level. On-post groups, collaborations with military and civilians groups, and individual points of contact are all coming together as the military backbone of the international network of atheists and humanists. MAAF also works with other organizations such as the International Humanist & Ethical Union, the UK Armed Forces Humanist Association, and associated members in locations such as Australia and Canada. One international effort is to provide assistance to Nadav Heipert, an Israeli Defense Force soldier seeking his own freedoms within an overtly religious military. Having a supportive outside organization gives him comfort that the IDF does not provide. The IDF includes religious oaths and supports a religious Constitution. His situation is legally different than US military personnel, but his need for a connection with like-minded individuals is not different. The UK Armed Forces Humanist Association is looking for US and other members in Qatar to grow a local group. Athena Holter-Mehren in Turkey has started MAAF Incirlik. Tom Essenpreis is a new point of contact looking for more members in Kandahar, Afghanistan. These international efforts are new, but reflect the reach of our membership and a history of prior local groups around the world. http://blog.militaryatheists.org/2011/06/local-military-humanists-continue-to-thrive/ Hmmm, I haven't heard of this here yet but I'm interested. |
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Posted: 6/19/2011 10:51:29 AM EDT
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Quoted: I don't want to spend my free time going to a pizza party with Jesus, so what makes them think I want to spend it talking about how Jesus doesn't exist? This. I was in the service with atheists and never remember it being much of an issue one way or the other. Sounds like a pretty much manufactured issue to me. |
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Posted: 6/19/2011 10:51:43 AM EDT
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Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Is it just me, or does it kinda sound like the atheists are forming.......... a religion?... The irony................ Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile Sure. If you take away the magic. And the need for a supernatural Big Brother. And the recycled stories. And the voluminous hidebound dogma. Sure, their identical. Don't get me wrong though, this is one of my concerns: http://images.wikia.com/southpark/images/0/01/GoGodGoXII13.jpg I'm just saying that when a bunch of people with the same belief system gather together on a regular basis, its basically a religion. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile Depends on how you define religion. For myself, any group can have a dogma, but to have a religion you have to have dogma and a supernatural component. I'd even go so far as to say that the strong atheists fall in the religious category as they assert an unprovable position. |
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Posted: 6/19/2011 10:53:15 AM EDT
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Quoted: Quoted: With no foxholes, atheists thrive. The inside of an armored vehicle is the new foxhole. Do soldiers ever dig foxholes anymore? |
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Posted: 6/19/2011 10:54:20 AM EDT
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Quoted: That's what I don't get. I think Star Trek Conventions are silly but I wouldn't get together with a bunch of other guys who think Star Trek conventions are silly.I don't want to spend my free time going to a pizza party with Jesus, so what makes them think I want to spend it talking about how Jesus doesn't exist? |
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Posted: 6/19/2011 11:10:18 AM EDT
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Quoted: Quoted: I don't want to spend my free time going to a pizza party with Jesus, so what makes them think I want to spend it talking about how Jesus doesn't exist? That's what I don't get. I think Star Trek Conventions are silly but I wouldn't get together with a bunch of other guys who think Star Trek conventions are silly. People are hard wired for gregariousness. It's inevitable that people are going to want to get together in groups of similarly minded individuals. Not believing in the supernatural is as good as believing in it when it comes to finding a reason to do so. |
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Posted: 6/19/2011 11:13:35 AM EDT
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So they talk about the non-existence of God or any other super natural power? Sounds like it's a blast. If you don't believe in it cool, why schedule meetings to talk about not believing in it? Unless they have really good beer and BBQ.
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Posted: 6/19/2011 11:15:00 AM EDT
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Quoted: I'll keep them in my prayers. This. |
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Posted: 6/19/2011 11:20:51 AM EDT
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With no foxholes, atheists thrive. The inside of an armored vehicle is the new foxhole. Do soldiers ever dig foxholes anymore? My battery does. And ranger graves. And sixty pits. But, Artillery is special like that. |
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Posted: 6/19/2011 11:30:00 AM EDT
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Quoted: Do soldiers ever dig foxholes anymore? Sometimes. |
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Posted: 6/19/2011 11:56:41 AM EDT
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With no foxholes, atheists thrive. The inside of an armored vehicle is the new foxhole. Do soldiers ever dig foxholes anymore? Most bases in CONUS require either digging in specific locations or to get a digging permit prior to digging. |
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Posted: 6/19/2011 12:01:47 PM EDT
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With no foxholes, atheists thrive. The inside of an armored vehicle is the new foxhole. Do soldiers ever dig foxholes anymore? |
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Posted: 6/19/2011 12:03:16 PM EDT
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they've got one big problem though ... hell is waiting for them. I'm more inclined to believe in the damnation of somebody who judges others purely on their spiritual beliefs (or lack thereof) than by their accomplishments, such as going to war for your ass. Quoted:
With no foxholes, atheists thrive. The inside of an armored vehicle is the new foxhole. That is easier to destroy |
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Posted: 6/19/2011 12:03:30 PM EDT
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Atheist activists are 100% more annoying than any christian I've ever met.
Keep your religion (or lack of) to yourself. |
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Posted: 6/19/2011 12:06:55 PM EDT
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Whatevs.
I claim the privilege of worshiping Almighty God according to the dictates of my own conscience, and allow all men the same privilege, let them worship how, where, or what they may. |
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Posted: 6/19/2011 12:09:13 PM EDT
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Is this part of the new gays in the military policy Why? You looking for a date? Why does it always come back to sex with you people. No i don't want to date you. I was trying to figure out the connection between gays in the military and athiest coming out You brought it up. |
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Posted: 6/19/2011 12:10:53 PM EDT
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There are so many things that I don't believe in.
Should I form a club for each and every one of them? This is asinine. |
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Posted: 6/19/2011 12:11:50 PM EDT
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Something to keep in mind is that associating with people for religious reasons leads to more social activities than just reading the bible (or whatever) together. A lot of "community" forms as a result of it.
(I know community is a dirty word, but I think you know what I mean) So if atheists want to do a little community forming without the religion, more power to them. |
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Posted: 6/19/2011 12:28:23 PM EDT
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Something to keep in mind is that associating with people for religious reasons leads to more social activities than just reading the bible (or whatever) together. A lot of "community" forms as a result of it. (I know community is a dirty word, but I think you know what I mean) So if atheists want to do a little community forming without the religion, more power to them. They can do whatever they want, but it just seems a little forced to base your community around what you DON'T believe. Anyone want to join my Sasquatch Doubting club? |
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Posted: 6/19/2011 12:39:42 PM EDT
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Quoted: Quoted: Something to keep in mind is that associating with people for religious reasons leads to more social activities than just reading the bible (or whatever) together. A lot of "community" forms as a result of it. (I know community is a dirty word, but I think you know what I mean) So if atheists want to do a little community forming without the religion, more power to them. They can do whatever they want, but it just seems a little forced to base your community around what you DON'T believe. Anyone want to join my Sasquatch Doubting club? Sign me up. I'm an equal opportunity skeptic. |
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Posted: 6/19/2011 12:45:18 PM EDT
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 Quoted: Quoted: Something to keep in mind is that associating with people for religious reasons leads to more social activities than just reading the bible (or whatever) together. A lot of "community" forms as a result of it. (I know community is a dirty word, but I think you know what I mean) So if atheists want to do a little community forming without the religion, more power to them. They can do whatever they want, but it just seems a little forced to base your community around what you DON'T believe. Anyone want to join my Sasquatch Doubting club? |
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Posted: 6/19/2011 12:55:24 PM EDT
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Quoted: Quoted: That's what I don't get. I think Star Trek Conventions are silly but I wouldn't get together with a bunch of other guys who think Star Trek conventions are silly.I don't want to spend my free time going to a pizza party with Jesus, so what makes them think I want to spend it talking about how Jesus doesn't exist? But star trek doesn't dominate people's lives the way religion does. |
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Posted: 6/19/2011 1:03:15 PM EDT
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Quoted: Not at all.Quoted: Quoted: That's what I don't get. I think Star Trek Conventions are silly but I wouldn't get together with a bunch of other guys who think Star Trek conventions are silly.I don't want to spend my free time going to a pizza party with Jesus, so what makes them think I want to spend it talking about how Jesus doesn't exist? But star trek doesn't dominate people's lives the way religion does.    |
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Posted: 6/19/2011 1:04:02 PM EDT
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Quoted: Quoted: Not at all.Quoted: Quoted: That's what I don't get. I think Star Trek Conventions are silly but I wouldn't get together with a bunch of other guys who think Star Trek conventions are silly.I don't want to spend my free time going to a pizza party with Jesus, so what makes them think I want to spend it talking about how Jesus doesn't exist? But star trek doesn't dominate people's lives the way religion does. I got nothing.  |
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Posted: 6/19/2011 1:09:22 PM EDT
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Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Not at all.Quoted: Quoted: I don't want to spend my free time going to a pizza party with Jesus, so what makes them think I want to spend it talking about how Jesus doesn't exist? That's what I don't get. I think Star Trek Conventions are silly but I wouldn't get together with a bunch of other guys who think Star Trek conventions are silly. But star trek doesn't dominate people's lives the way religion does. I got nothing. People have to fill their lives with meaning. Some can draw it from inside themselves. Others, not so much... |
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Posted: 6/19/2011 1:19:07 PM EDT
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Is it just me, or does it kinda sound like the atheists are forming.......... a religion?... The irony................ Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile Sure. If you take away the magic. And the need for a supernatural Big Brother. And the recycled stories. And the voluminous hidebound dogma. Sure, their identical. Wow. Even the self-righteousness and indignation is down pat. You gonna knock on my door and hand me a pamphlet to save me from myself? You guys need to apply for your special tax status. |
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