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Posted: 8/2/2013 6:40:50 PM EDT
I dont under stand?



i dont get what the complaint is. And ive had 1911's and revolvers too. so.
Link Posted: 8/2/2013 6:41:59 PM EDT
[#1]
I'm Dumb
Link Posted: 8/2/2013 6:43:23 PM EDT
[#2]
it's just an excuse for lack of shooting skill or adaptability

Link Posted: 8/2/2013 6:48:57 PM EDT
[#3]
Beavertail in completely different place on examples shown.



So its not the grip angle as much as the hand to grip angle, which is different based on placement of beavertail relational to grip.
Link Posted: 8/2/2013 6:50:39 PM EDT
[#4]
The angle doesn't bother me, the Glocks point naturally to me. What I hate is the damn rubber trigger which I know can be fixed yet I still own a Glock. If SHTF and I needed a gun that I didn't have to baby, Glock would likely be it although I do like the M&P's. I'm not a gun snob but I prefer Sigs, I like the aluminum frame, SA/DA trigger and are more natural shooters for me.
Link Posted: 8/2/2013 6:50:47 PM EDT
[#5]
yeah, me either.....

sounds like a bunch of waaahhh to me.
Link Posted: 8/2/2013 6:51:16 PM EDT
[#6]
Haters gonna hate.
Link Posted: 8/2/2013 6:51:21 PM EDT
[#7]
Those 2 extra degrees of angle are EVERYTHING, man
Link Posted: 8/2/2013 6:52:00 PM EDT
[#8]
Feels perfectly natural*











*held sideways
Link Posted: 8/2/2013 6:53:23 PM EDT
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I agree , same with most things, maybe I'm just SPECIAL but I can operate most mechanical things equally well, or bad, make/model/brand doesn't change anything.
Link Posted: 8/2/2013 6:53:50 PM EDT
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Beavertail in completely different place on examples shown.

So its not the grip angle as much as the hand to grip angle, which is different based on placement of beavertail relational to grip.
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Link Posted: 8/2/2013 6:54:28 PM EDT
[#11]

Its just an excuse for those that cant find anything real to complain about on a Glock.

It goes like this: "Oh yeah, well my $2500 1911 may jam all the time -- but at least i dont have to deal with that wacky Glock grip angle."
Link Posted: 8/2/2013 6:54:36 PM EDT
[#12]
They had to invent something else to bitch about when thy finally admitted that Glocks wouldn't melt in the car on a hot day.
Link Posted: 8/2/2013 6:54:53 PM EDT
[#13]
If you don't understand, then I cannot explain....
Link Posted: 8/2/2013 6:55:11 PM EDT
[#14]
Seriously. Put those green lines along the back and see how much difference there is.

Link Posted: 8/2/2013 6:56:13 PM EDT
[#15]
Make mine 145 degrees please.
Link Posted: 8/2/2013 6:56:52 PM EDT
[#16]
If I ever am attacked by Flying Monkeys,  I'll grab my Glock since it seems preset to "Anti-Air" elevation.

Don't know why, but when I blind aim it, it is ALWAYS way high...

1911 is OLD tec, but I can hit what I want by just thinking it....

If Glock could / would ever make a US model with an "American Natural" lower grip angle instead of the Euro Luger extreme angle, I'd buy boxes of them...
Link Posted: 8/2/2013 6:57:11 PM EDT
[#17]
It's not the angle of the grip,


it's the hump on the back.




Link Posted: 8/2/2013 6:59:18 PM EDT
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Beavertail in completely different place on examples shown.

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This.

But drive the dang pistol don't ride it. All are shootable without issue.
Link Posted: 8/2/2013 7:00:43 PM EDT
[#19]
I have big hands, not like Jerry Sienfeld's girlfriend who makes mutton but not small. The 1911, Hi Power and Sig Sauer 226 are all comfortable. My daily carry Glock 3rd gen 17 is ok. The way my hand lines up between the trigger guard and the grooves, they added aren't perfect. At least for my hand. On my MP5 SBR I went with the Navy lower because after shooting one like it and shooting the molded one with the thumb groove the Navy one felt easier on my hand.
 
Link Posted: 8/2/2013 7:01:41 PM EDT
[#20]
in before Dan
Link Posted: 8/2/2013 7:01:52 PM EDT
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it's the hump on the back.




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Exactly.

Take the original graphic and run those green lines down the backstrap.

Link Posted: 8/2/2013 7:02:29 PM EDT
[#22]
Meh....My XD points better for me, but I can shoot Glocks just fine.  The revolver has to be the most unnatural gun to shoot, followed by my Buck Mark.  I point that thing high every single time.
Link Posted: 8/2/2013 7:04:35 PM EDT
[#23]
My first 1911 was a Springfield Armory GI 1911.
I bastardized it twenty years ago.
Then I stripped it and rebuilt it.
Note the main spring housing, it's very easy to change....

Link Posted: 8/2/2013 7:05:24 PM EDT
[#24]
If I can remember to hold to choke up on the Glock it points fine... Otherwise, two degrees off.
Link Posted: 8/2/2013 7:05:42 PM EDT
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This.

The first time I shot a glock I blamed it on the gun.   Range officer picked it up and fired a very tight group with it and told me the race car was fine, but the driver needed some work.
Link Posted: 8/2/2013 7:05:44 PM EDT
[#26]
I don't know why, but I shoot a full size 1911 better than any other gun, next is a cz75 followed by the 3rd gen s&w 5906 then comes the glock 17, however, a glock 19 shoots to point of aim for me!
Link Posted: 8/2/2013 7:05:48 PM EDT
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i dont get what the complaint is. And ive had 1911's and revolvers too. so.
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It's the hump. The angle is fine; the hump isn't.

I own a G19. If it had a stiffer trigger and a straight backstrap, it would be almost perfect.

As it is, I favor the Hi-Power, at least the alloy-framed versions - they weigh nearly the same as a Glock 19, are slimmer (for IWB carry), point naturally, and have the ergonomics that God Himself determined are perfect for a handgun.
Link Posted: 8/2/2013 7:06:43 PM EDT
[#28]
Meh on the angle, however the finger grooves are a bit annoying if you have big fingers.

They still work well and are very reliable, etc...

If you lay a Gen three Glock on top of a 1911 they do look very similar.

Link Posted: 8/2/2013 7:07:18 PM EDT
[#29]
Singer, not the song.
Link Posted: 8/2/2013 7:10:36 PM EDT
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It's the hump. The angle is fine; the hump isn't.

I own a G19. If it had a stiffer trigger and a straight backstrap, it would be almost perfect.

As it is, I favor the Hi-Power, at least the alloy-framed versions - they weigh nearly the same as a Glock 19, are slimmer (for IWB carry), point naturally, and have the ergonomics that God Himself determined are perfect for a handgun.
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i dont get what the complaint is. And ive had 1911's and revolvers too. so.


It's the hump. The angle is fine; the hump isn't.

I own a G19. If it had a stiffer trigger and a straight backstrap, it would be almost perfect.

As it is, I favor the Hi-Power, at least the alloy-framed versions - they weigh nearly the same as a Glock 19, are slimmer (for IWB carry), point naturally, and have the ergonomics that God Himself determined are perfect for a handgun.


What he said
Link Posted: 8/2/2013 7:12:03 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 8/2/2013 7:12:22 PM EDT
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Most complaints revolve around the glock pointing high, undercutting the trigger guard resolved this issue for me.

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Link Posted: 8/2/2013 7:16:27 PM EDT
[#33]
Grip? More like brick.
Link Posted: 8/2/2013 7:19:26 PM EDT
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This is the correct answer.

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Link Posted: 8/2/2013 7:21:46 PM EDT
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Meh on the angle, however the finger grooves are a bit annoying if you have big fingers.


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I can palm a basketball and I don't even notice the finger grooves
Link Posted: 8/2/2013 7:24:23 PM EDT
[#36]
It's like holding a 2x4.
Link Posted: 8/2/2013 7:25:54 PM EDT
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Exactly.



Take the original graphic and run those green lines down the backstrap.



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It's not the angle of the grip,





it's the hump on the back.















Exactly.



Take the original graphic and run those green lines down the backstrap.







except that would tell you nothing about grip angle.  youre talking about the palm swell...



 
Link Posted: 8/2/2013 7:28:28 PM EDT
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If I ever am attacked by Flying Monkeys,  I'll grab my Glock since it seems preset to "Anti-Air" elevation.

Don't know why, but when I blind aim it, it is ALWAYS way high...

1911 is OLD tec, but I can hit what I want by just thinking it....

If Glock could / would ever make a US model with an "American Natural" lower grip angle instead of the Euro Luger extreme angle, I'd buy boxes of them...
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Link Posted: 8/2/2013 7:28:55 PM EDT
[#39]
It's the finger grooves that get me, like glocks were designed for women and children.
Link Posted: 8/2/2013 7:29:14 PM EDT
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It's the hump. 19 feels better has its less pronounce as opposed to the 17. That said, both of them blow the crap out of the XDM which is like a melted glock in every aspect and has a gigantic hump like the forehead of your inbred cousin, Katie, the one with the unibrow
Link Posted: 8/2/2013 7:30:38 PM EDT
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Your accusation of lack of skill is absurd.
Link Posted: 8/2/2013 7:31:10 PM EDT
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Couldn't be said any better. A true statement and I shoot both Glocks & 1911's and even XD series with consistent accuracy
Link Posted: 8/2/2013 7:33:10 PM EDT
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I can palm a basketball and I don't even notice the finger grooves
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Meh on the angle, however the finger grooves are a bit annoying if you have big fingers.





I can palm a basketball and I don't even notice the finger grooves



My fingers sit on top of the grooves, not in them which makes for some pressure where it's not wanted in my case.

I can still shoot one fairly well and I like them.

There is no way I'm going to be palming a basketball...

Link Posted: 8/2/2013 7:33:28 PM EDT
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I will admit when going to a Glock from other guns I found that the gun would naturally point with a slight upward tilt, but after a little practice I have no issues anymore. My only complaint is that even with the Gen4 and the thinnest grip the grip is still a little thick for my hands, but I still shoot them fine.
Link Posted: 8/2/2013 7:33:34 PM EDT
[#45]
The finger groves are made for girl size fingers.  Gen 2 > the rest.
Link Posted: 8/2/2013 7:34:46 PM EDT
[#46]
I love my Glocks and started shooting them before I was legal age to buy one. I've recently played quit a bit with a 1911 and every time I brought it up to my eyes, I was pointing it way low.

I'll stick with my Glocks.
Link Posted: 8/2/2013 7:39:01 PM EDT
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Its just an excuse for those that cant find anything real to complain about on a Glock.



It goes like this: "Oh yeah, well my $2500 1911 may jam all the time -- but at least i dont have to deal with that wacky Glock grip angle."
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:yawn. My $500 second hand Colt 1911 has never jammed, no matter what ammo I put thru it.



If I wanna shoot tupperware, I grab my XD.
Link Posted: 8/2/2013 7:39:53 PM EDT
[#48]
Old people are resistant to change.
Link Posted: 8/2/2013 7:41:21 PM EDT
[#49]

FIFY
Link Posted: 8/2/2013 7:43:44 PM EDT
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This is it

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