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Posted: 11/26/2023 6:29:46 PM EDT
[#1]
I used to be an audiophile guy.
Then the tinnitus kicked in, and what's the point? 
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Posted: 11/26/2023 6:31:19 PM EDT
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Quoted: So been audiophile/video guy for a long time. But you get great deals on flagship receivers this time of year. Go to crutchfield and buy this years models they are closing out inventory. I’m talking a flagship 5k receiver for 2000 or less. I mainly use them with other amps, because let’s face it. Receiver amps suck. But you can get great deals and use it as pre-pro Some examples of those 'flagship receivers'? |
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Posted: 11/26/2023 6:33:34 PM EDT
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But...when will this Dirac Live Active Room Treatment ART come out on pro/pros or receivers? Any thoughts on that?
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Posted: 11/26/2023 6:36:17 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Some examples of those 'flagship receivers'? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: So been audiophile/video guy for a long time. But you get great deals on flagship receivers this time of year. Go to crutchfield and buy this years models they are closing out inventory. I’m talking a flagship 5k receiver for 2000 or less. I mainly use them with other amps, because let’s face it. Receiver amps suck. But you can get great deals and use it as pre-pro Some examples of those 'flagship receivers'? Do you not know what a flagship receiver is? |
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Posted: 11/26/2023 6:38:43 PM EDT
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I had an audiophile show me different HT setups and sample some speakers and stuff.
Sounded like shit to me. Sounded like mostly treble and hardly any bass. I dont really care what anyone says, bose sound good to me vs other high ened stuff. Even the cheaper home theater systems sounds lots better to me. |
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Posted: 11/26/2023 7:02:56 PM EDT
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I'm hoping for a doorbuster type deal on a decent subwoofer. I could use one for home, and I could probably use another one at work. I have a rather large room which is hard to fill with sound.
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Posted: 11/26/2023 7:44:26 PM EDT
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Looks like my old secret is wrong.
Receivers are gutless turds. Even a 3 thousand dollar one. A flagship receiver use to have a pretty decent amp. Seems that’s not that case anymore. Still some decent deals to be had on processing/features. But the amp section sucks ass. My old denon 3802 that’s 25 years old has more power than the shit being put out. |
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Posted: 11/26/2023 8:03:32 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Looks like my old secret is wrong. Receivers are gutless turds. Even a 3 thousand dollar one. A flagship receiver use to have a pretty decent amp. Seems that's not that case anymore. Still some decent deals to be had on processing/features. But the amp section sucks ass. My old denon 3802 that's 25 years old has more power than the shit being put out. Not much of an audiophile if youre pushing shit you dont know about. Nevermind, you're doing exactly what audiophiles do |
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Posted: 11/26/2023 8:04:38 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Not much of an audiophile if youre pushing shit you dont know about. Nevermind, you're doing exactly what audiophiles do lol! |
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Posted: 11/26/2023 8:30:55 PM EDT
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I just buy used stuff off of other audiophiles from places like Audiogon or trade-in components from the fancy audio store. Audiophiles are crazy OCD about keeping their equipment in near new condition.
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Posted: 11/26/2023 8:34:10 PM EDT
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I got rid of all that shit and put up a soundbar. Good enough for 99% of the stuff I do now.
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Posted: 11/26/2023 8:56:24 PM EDT
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Posted: 11/26/2023 8:58:47 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Do you not know what a flagship receiver is? https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/285969/DSC01847__2_-1_jpg-3041386.JPG Ok. That’s pretty damn good. Well done. 
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Posted: 11/26/2023 9:01:25 PM EDT
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Posted: 11/26/2023 9:02:55 PM EDT
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Crutchfield is local to me. Their HQ is right here in Charlottesville. They have an entire store full of things that have been returned and scratch and dent. May not have the box or all of the paper work but it's also considerably cheaper than the new msrp. I went in there once with a friend of mine, that was enough for me. Everyone raves about Crutchfield though. To me, it's all overpriced.
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Posted: 11/26/2023 9:05:25 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Not much of an audiophile if youre pushing shit you dont know about. Nevermind, you're doing exactly what audiophiles do 
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Posted: 11/26/2023 9:16:50 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Not much of an audiophile if youre pushing shit you dont know about. Nevermind, you're doing exactly what audiophiles do Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Looks like my old secret is wrong. Receivers are gutless turds. Even a 3 thousand dollar one. A flagship receiver use to have a pretty decent amp. Seems that's not that case anymore. Still some decent deals to be had on processing/features. But the amp section sucks ass. My old denon 3802 that's 25 years old has more power than the shit being put out. Not much of an audiophile if youre pushing shit you dont know about. Nevermind, you're doing exactly what audiophiles do OP probably has $300 speaker wires.  |
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Posted: 11/26/2023 10:09:33 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: OP probably has $300 speaker wires. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Looks like my old secret is wrong. Receivers are gutless turds. Even a 3 thousand dollar one. A flagship receiver use to have a pretty decent amp. Seems that's not that case anymore. Still some decent deals to be had on processing/features. But the amp section sucks ass. My old denon 3802 that's 25 years old has more power than the shit being put out. Not much of an audiophile if youre pushing shit you dont know about. Nevermind, you're doing exactly what audiophiles do OP probably has $300 speaker wires. They were actually about 500 in 1990 dollars. |
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Posted: 11/26/2023 10:09:36 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: OP probably has $300 speaker wires. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Looks like my old secret is wrong. Receivers are gutless turds. Even a 3 thousand dollar one. A flagship receiver use to have a pretty decent amp. Seems that's not that case anymore. Still some decent deals to be had on processing/features. But the amp section sucks ass. My old denon 3802 that's 25 years old has more power than the shit being put out. Not much of an audiophile if youre pushing shit you dont know about. Nevermind, you're doing exactly what audiophiles do OP probably has $300 speaker wires. It wasn't too long ago that there was a guy on here who was going to spend hundreds on a USB cable of 12" length if I'm not mistaken. It was insane. |
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Posted: 11/26/2023 10:12:26 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Looks like my old secret is wrong. Receivers are gutless turds. Even a 3 thousand dollar one. A flagship receiver use to have a pretty decent amp. Seems that’s not that case anymore. Still some decent deals to be had on processing/features. But the amp section sucks ass. My old denon 3802 that’s 25 years old has more power than the shit being put out. So you started a pointless thread to prove you don’t know anything and claim to be an audiophile? |
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Posted: 11/26/2023 10:13:12 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: It wasn't too long ago that there was a guy on here who was going to spend hundreds on a USB cable of 12" length if I'm not mistaken. It was insane. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Looks like my old secret is wrong. Receivers are gutless turds. Even a 3 thousand dollar one. A flagship receiver use to have a pretty decent amp. Seems that's not that case anymore. Still some decent deals to be had on processing/features. But the amp section sucks ass. My old denon 3802 that's 25 years old has more power than the shit being put out. Not much of an audiophile if youre pushing shit you dont know about. Nevermind, you're doing exactly what audiophiles do OP probably has $300 speaker wires. It wasn't too long ago that there was a guy on here who was going to spend hundreds on a USB cable of 12" length if I'm not mistaken. It was insane. Those are rookie numbers. |
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Posted: 11/26/2023 10:27:47 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: So you started a pointless thread to prove you don’t know anything and claim to be an audiophile? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Looks like my old secret is wrong. Receivers are gutless turds. Even a 3 thousand dollar one. A flagship receiver use to have a pretty decent amp. Seems that’s not that case anymore. Still some decent deals to be had on processing/features. But the amp section sucks ass. My old denon 3802 that’s 25 years old has more power than the shit being put out. So you started a pointless thread to prove you don’t know anything and claim to be an audiophile? We audiophiles don’t deal with home theater peasants much. But I do have 2 HT systems/rooms. But that’s seperate from my stereo and it’s room. |
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Posted: 11/26/2023 10:31:07 PM EDT
[#23]
I was able to snag a ATI amp from accessories4less at a great price by getting last years model.
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Posted: 11/26/2023 10:37:40 PM EDT
[#24]
$400 off on the Anthem 3 channel amp, I may pull the trigger on that, I need two more of them.
https://www.crutchfield.com/p_973MCA3252/Anthem-MCA-325-Gen-2.html |
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Posted: 11/26/2023 10:47:55 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: We audiophiles don’t deal with home theater peasants much. But I do have 2 HT systems/rooms. But that’s seperate from my stereo and it’s room. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Looks like my old secret is wrong. Receivers are gutless turds. Even a 3 thousand dollar one. A flagship receiver use to have a pretty decent amp. Seems that’s not that case anymore. Still some decent deals to be had on processing/features. But the amp section sucks ass. My old denon 3802 that’s 25 years old has more power than the shit being put out. So you started a pointless thread to prove you don’t know anything and claim to be an audiophile? We audiophiles don’t deal with home theater peasants much. But I do have 2 HT systems/rooms. But that’s seperate from my stereo and it’s room. Don’t feel bad man. The vast majority of people don’t have a passion for sound. I do, and my 5.2.2 atmos system is quite nice on modest gear. Really, HT receivers are now more about feature sets, Codecs and HDMI than anything else. The amps built in are for driving multichannel efficiency and processing now. 85wpc is pretty common. For audiophile stuff my Rotel/ProJect/Bowers system is for critical listening and enjoyment. |
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Posted: 11/26/2023 10:48:32 PM EDT
[#26]
What's your 2 channel setup OP? I dabble.....
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Posted: 11/26/2023 10:52:07 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: So you started a pointless thread to prove you don’t know anything and claim to be an audiophile? Have you seen the OP’s threads regarding investing? |
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Posted: 11/26/2023 10:56:00 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Looks like my old secret is wrong. Receivers are gutless turds. Even a 3 thousand dollar one. A flagship receiver use to have a pretty decent amp. Seems that's not that case anymore. Still some decent deals to be had on processing/features. But the amp section sucks ass. My old denon 3802 that's 25 years old has more power than the shit being put out. Not much of an audiophile if youre pushing shit you dont know about. Nevermind, you're doing exactly what audiophiles do OP probably has $300 speaker wires. It wasn't too long ago that there was a guy on here who was going to spend hundreds on a USB cable of 12" length if I'm not mistaken. It was insane. Those are rookie numbers. That's a truly expensive gizmo. Though, the shorter cables on their site are in line with what the guy was talking about in that thread. |
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Posted: 11/26/2023 10:58:31 PM EDT
[#29]
Here's the actual secret for getting a good deal on a home theater receiver.
It isn't much of a secret If you're not even using the onboard amps why would you buy a $2000 receiver? The 3800s have been going for like $900-1000 for months. You're late to the party. Unless you're convinced you want 6 channel atmos or front wides or whatever. At least buy a prepro if you want a misplaced feeling of superiority while convincing yourself you could pass a double blind test discerning amplifier amps from discrete, or telling everyone you listen to obscure foreign films at reference level in a stadium size room. |
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Posted: 11/26/2023 11:02:04 PM EDT
[#30]
Deleted. I'm an illiterate moran
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Posted: 11/26/2023 11:03:16 PM EDT
[#31]
Quote HistoryQuoted: What's your 2 channel setup OP? I dabble..... Martin Logan request Sony 777es SACD player Adcom pre Hodge podge of amps I think all the gear are 20+ years old |
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Posted: 11/26/2023 11:04:12 PM EDT
[#32]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I had always heard "HT" was short for Handi-Talki, Meaning a handheld two-way radio So saying HT receiver is somewhat weird as there is no HT transmitter only. And a HT receiver only wouldn't be the "talki" part of HT. I thought the same when clicking on the thread, but I then figured out he meant Home Theater. |
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Posted: 11/26/2023 11:22:04 PM EDT
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Posted: 11/26/2023 11:23:59 PM EDT
[#34]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Have you seen the OP’s threads regarding investing? Ah haaaa Ah hahahhahahahahahahahahahahhahahhahahahahhahahahahahahahhaha You made my night! |
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Posted: 11/26/2023 11:26:37 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: They were actually about 500 in 1990 dollars. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Looks like my old secret is wrong. Receivers are gutless turds. Even a 3 thousand dollar one. A flagship receiver use to have a pretty decent amp. Seems that's not that case anymore. Still some decent deals to be had on processing/features. But the amp section sucks ass. My old denon 3802 that's 25 years old has more power than the shit being put out. Not much of an audiophile if youre pushing shit you dont know about. Nevermind, you're doing exactly what audiophiles do OP probably has $300 speaker wires. They were actually about 500 in 1990 dollars. So what do you get by spending that much money on speaker cables? |
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Posted: 11/26/2023 11:27:58 PM EDT
[#36]
Quote HistoryQuoted: So what do you get by spending that much money on speaker cables? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Looks like my old secret is wrong. Receivers are gutless turds. Even a 3 thousand dollar one. A flagship receiver use to have a pretty decent amp. Seems that's not that case anymore. Still some decent deals to be had on processing/features. But the amp section sucks ass. My old denon 3802 that's 25 years old has more power than the shit being put out. Not much of an audiophile if youre pushing shit you dont know about. Nevermind, you're doing exactly what audiophiles do OP probably has $300 speaker wires. They were actually about 500 in 1990 dollars. So what do you get by spending that much money on speaker cables? Really nice speaker cables. Duh. |
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Posted: 11/26/2023 11:28:08 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: We audiophiles don’t deal with home theater peasants much. But I do have 2 HT systems/rooms. But that’s seperate from my stereo and it’s room. Do you have absolute (perfect) pitch? |
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Posted: 11/26/2023 11:30:34 PM EDT
[#38]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I thought the same when clicking on the thread, but I then figured out he meant Home Theater. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I had always heard "HT" was short for Handi-Talki, Meaning a handheld two-way radio So saying HT receiver is somewhat weird as there is no HT transmitter only. And a HT receiver only wouldn't be the "talki" part of HT. I thought the same when clicking on the thread, but I then figured out he meant Home Theater. Holy shit. ?? |
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Posted: 11/26/2023 11:31:09 PM EDT
[#39]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Really nice speaker cables. Duh. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Looks like my old secret is wrong. Receivers are gutless turds. Even a 3 thousand dollar one. A flagship receiver use to have a pretty decent amp. Seems that's not that case anymore. Still some decent deals to be had on processing/features. But the amp section sucks ass. My old denon 3802 that's 25 years old has more power than the shit being put out. Not much of an audiophile if youre pushing shit you dont know about. Nevermind, you're doing exactly what audiophiles do OP probably has $300 speaker wires. They were actually about 500 in 1990 dollars. So what do you get by spending that much money on speaker cables? Really nice speaker cables. Duh. What does that even mean? |
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Posted: 11/26/2023 11:41:27 PM EDT
[#40]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I had an audiophile show me different HT setups and sample some speakers and stuff. Sounded like shit to me. Sounded like mostly treble and hardly any bass. I dont really care what anyone says, bose sound good to me vs other high ened stuff. Even the cheaper home theater systems sounds lots better to me. Blose All of the highs and none of the lows. Those Bose systems have a frequency hole you could drive a truck through. I like full range sound. How I get my low frequencies:  |
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Posted: 11/26/2023 11:43:22 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Crutchfield is local to me. Their HQ is right here in Charlottesville. They have an entire store full of things that have been returned and scratch and dent. May not have the box or all of the paper work but it's also considerably cheaper than the new msrp. I went in there once with a friend of mine, that was enough for me. Everyone raves about Crutchfield though. To me, it's all overpriced. |
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Posted: 11/27/2023 12:04:37 AM EDT
[#42]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Blose All of the highs and none of the lows. Those Bose systems have a frequency hole you could drive a truck through. I like full range sound. How I get my low frequencies: http://i.imgur.com/jC0d9vU.jpg Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I had an audiophile show me different HT setups and sample some speakers and stuff. Sounded like shit to me. Sounded like mostly treble and hardly any bass. I dont really care what anyone says, bose sound good to me vs other high ened stuff. Even the cheaper home theater systems sounds lots better to me. Blose All of the highs and none of the lows. Those Bose systems have a frequency hole you could drive a truck through. I like full range sound. How I get my low frequencies: http://i.imgur.com/jC0d9vU.jpg Do you have details on that? I've thought about doing the infinity subwoofer type of deal since I have an unused hole in my Livingroom which goes down into the basement. |
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Posted: 11/27/2023 12:41:33 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Do you have details on that? I've thought about doing the infinity subwoofer type of deal since I have an unused hole in my Livingroom which goes down into the basement. It was a precut DIY subwoofer kit from Danley Sound Labs offered for a limited time at a very nice discount. They do still sell it as a completed product, but $$$$. http://www.danleysoundlabs.com/products/dts10/ |
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Posted: 11/27/2023 12:46:19 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: What does that even mean? It means you could use the wire out of cheap Walmart extention cords and no own would ever be able to tell the difference in a blind test (or with coat hangers for that matter). 
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Posted: 11/27/2023 2:50:38 AM EDT
[#45]
Audiophool threads are amusing.
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Posted: 11/27/2023 2:55:09 AM EDT
[#46]
Not me. I still use a pioneer reel to reel to play 1/4" tape at 7.5 inches per second into a 1990ish vintage Onkyo receiver. Cutting edge I tell you.
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Posted: 11/27/2023 3:12:36 AM EDT
[#47]
Receivers.
Home Theater. Audiophile. What do these things have to do with each other? Nothing. |
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Posted: 11/27/2023 9:12:50 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: It was a precut DIY subwoofer kit from Danley Sound Labs offered for a limited time at a very nice discount. They do still sell it as a completed product, but $$$$. http://www.danleysoundlabs.com/products/dts10/ Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Do you have details on that? I've thought about doing the infinity subwoofer type of deal since I have an unused hole in my Livingroom which goes down into the basement. It was a precut DIY subwoofer kit from Danley Sound Labs offered for a limited time at a very nice discount. They do still sell it as a completed product, but $$$$. http://www.danleysoundlabs.com/products/dts10/ That does look pretty expensive. I would love to make something like that for my home. I'll have to give this some thought. |
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Posted: 11/27/2023 9:23:17 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Martin Logan request Sony 777es SACD player Adcom pre Hodge podge of amps I think all the gear are 20+ years old Dude …no streaming solution ? |
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Posted: 11/27/2023 9:25:07 AM EDT
[#50]
My advice to the OP is to stop worrying about the gear and enjoy the music.
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