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Posted: 4/21/2023 9:27:36 PM EDT
Summary - DOD ignored vets who are likely influencers of youth to join but Democrats and Pentagon dismiss woke hurting recruiting and government accounting office investigation found no necessary data was being tracked by military services nor was there a plan to address recruiting shortfalls. All branches but Space Force and USMC failing recruiting but those were the smallest branches besides Coast Guard https://www.stripes.com/branches/army/2023-04-21/military-recruitment-lapses-challenges-national-security-9877566.html
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Posted: 4/21/2023 9:30:42 PM EDT
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Can't know if you don't know!
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Posted: 4/21/2023 9:33:05 PM EDT
[#2]
I'll have a coke.
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Posted: 4/21/2023 9:34:45 PM EDT
[#3]
LoL.
We are so fucked. It's become a jobs program for people that will cut and run at the slightest hint of trouble. And that sucks for the true professionals and honest people that would put themselves in harms way for us all. I hate the fact that they even have to deal with sub-85 IQ morons who could manage to squeeze into an XXL uniform. And that is just the women. |
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Posted: 4/21/2023 9:37:16 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Can't know if you don't know! Eerily similar to Hollywood https://www.indiewire.com/2022/11/worst-thanksgiving-weekend-box-office-history-1234785622/amp/ |
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Posted: 4/21/2023 9:37:50 PM EDT
[#5]
You can't be responsible if you don't find the cause.
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Posted: 4/21/2023 9:42:02 PM EDT
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Obviously…. We didn’t recruit enough stronk womenz, gays and trannys, and promote enough of the same via relaxing standards, just for them. while kicking those toxic white male warriors out in droves, and making SJW training top priority over combat training. we just need to do that harder !
Really, they can’t fix it, not without either shitting on the sjw shit, or pushing the toxic white supremacy they hate. Can’t brag about bumping numbers of straight white males. Reminds me of local police departments, job openings come up, need 10 officers. They get 200 applicants, but only hiring candidates who check those diversity boxes. 10 meet diversity boxes, but none qualify, so they hire no one, etc. |
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Posted: 4/21/2023 9:44:16 PM EDT
[#7]
But they had 100% of military members pass diversity training!
To the Democrats the military is for social experiments and when it goes wrong it's the militaries fault not the politicians who ordered it. |
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Posted: 4/21/2023 9:46:00 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Obviously…. We didn’t recruit enough stronk womenz, gays and trannys, and promote enough of the same via relaxing standards, just for them. while kicking those toxic white male warriors out in droves. we just need to do that harder ! Interesting that it’s Biden Administration panels and Democrat think tanks pushing that https://www.militarytimes.com/news/your-military/2023/01/26/experts-data-point-to-women-as-best-military-recruiting-pool/  Attached File |
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Posted: 4/21/2023 9:46:14 PM EDT
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Something tells me that a 220lb diesel dyke with a perforated face, gages in her ears, and full body tattoos could wallpaper he trailer with waivers into the same unit and have an easier time getting in than a recently separated combat vet with tattoo’s commemorating his time in Afghanistan…
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Posted: 4/21/2023 9:49:05 PM EDT
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It’s cool. Our enemies will stop when we misgender them. They’ll be so offended they’ll just walk away.
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Posted: 4/21/2023 9:49:56 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: But they had 100% of military members pass diversity training! To the Democrats the military is for social experiments and when it goes wrong it's the militaries fault not the politicians who ordered it. They didn’t execute the perfect plan properly 
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Posted: 4/21/2023 9:55:36 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Interesting that it’s Biden Administration panels and Democrat think tanks pushing that https://www.militarytimes.com/news/your-military/2023/01/26/experts-data-point-to-women-as-best-military-recruiting-pool/ https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/459941/13531C8E-181D-438A-AEDB-BC5DFAC07CD6_jpe-2791366.JPG Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Obviously…. We didn’t recruit enough stronk womenz, gays and trannys, and promote enough of the same via relaxing standards, just for them. while kicking those toxic white male warriors out in droves. we just need to do that harder ! Interesting that it’s Biden Administration panels and Democrat think tanks pushing that https://www.militarytimes.com/news/your-military/2023/01/26/experts-data-point-to-women-as-best-military-recruiting-pool/ https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/459941/13531C8E-181D-438A-AEDB-BC5DFAC07CD6_jpe-2791366.JPG Lol. Fucking do it, create all female infantry battalions consisting of nothing but stronk females. Make them check s many boxes as possible, Then Deploy said female infantry battalions, sit back see what happens. |
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Posted: 4/21/2023 9:55:38 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Something tells me that a 220lb diesel dyke with a perforated face, gages in her ears, and full body tattoos could wallpaper he trailer with waivers into the same unit and have an easier time getting in than a recently separated combat vet with tattoo's commemorating his time in Afghanistan |
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Posted: 4/21/2023 9:58:07 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Interesting that it’s Biden Administration panels and Democrat think tanks pushing that https://www.militarytimes.com/news/your-military/2023/01/26/experts-data-point-to-women-as-best-military-recruiting-pool/ https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/459941/13531C8E-181D-438A-AEDB-BC5DFAC07CD6_jpe-2791366.JPG Results compared to the “experts” https://www.ar15.com/forums/General/Recruiting-women-into-Army-becomes-a-financial-albatross-due-to-injuries/5-2638349/ |
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Posted: 4/21/2023 9:59:17 PM EDT
[#15]
Can't really blame them, it's a total mystery.
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Posted: 4/21/2023 10:03:22 PM EDT
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Posted: 4/21/2023 10:08:44 PM EDT
[#17]
And free POV inspections before going on leave and storing your privately owned weapons in the arms room! Who wouldn't sign up for that?
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Posted: 4/21/2023 10:09:42 PM EDT
[#18]
Well, I guess the destruction of America’s armed forces by generational communists continues as planned.
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Posted: 4/21/2023 10:12:30 PM EDT
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How do you plan to fix a problem that you don’t wish to see/admit to?
I don’t trust .GOV .MIL is hard to sell to to join the army etc when poopy pants is in charge |
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Posted: 4/21/2023 10:13:38 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: LoL. We are so fucked. It's become a jobs program for people that will cut and run at the slightest hint of trouble. And that sucks for the true professionals and honest people that would put themselves in harms way for us all. I hate the fact that they even have to deal with sub-85 IQ morons who could manage to squeeze into an XXL uniform. And that is just the women. The XXLsub85s are definitely not the only problem. There are a shitload of service members leaving, and there are a variety of factors: Family Money No challenge Education Too much BS Etc. Shit, in 6 months or so, I'll be separating a few that are solid. They're second termers, know the job, perform well, good attitude, etc. The military just isn't what they want to do anymore. A couple years ago, separated an E6 that could have likely retired as an E7 or E8, but he cut the cord at 11 years. I'm gonna separate another one that's almost identically situated in their career. It isn't just disillusioned first termers that are checking out. It's bad, and on a downhill trend. |
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Posted: 4/21/2023 10:24:05 PM EDT
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IMHO, the constant politicization of America’s wars by the left, the botched withdrawal from Afghanistan, and the progressive agenda that prioritizes social engineering over fighting and winning wars really destroyed any incentive for young white males to sign the dotted line.
The Pentagon has a plan to fix this, but it won’t be popular here. Oh well. |
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Posted: 4/21/2023 10:26:36 PM EDT
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While woke has consequences, I'd think there's a simpler reason - maybe people don't want to join because they don't want to be sent by Brandon to die in some shit hole.
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Posted: 4/21/2023 10:34:02 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Can't really blame them, it's a total mystery. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E4xsTvzXMAAqwjl.jpg  Scott DesJarlais Blames 'Woke-ism And DEI' For Military Recruiting Shortfalls |
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Posted: 4/21/2023 10:35:13 PM EDT
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Flaw vs feature
None of this is just a bunch of coincidental stupidity. |
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Posted: 4/21/2023 10:37:24 PM EDT
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That totally solves it. No data.
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Posted: 4/21/2023 10:38:27 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: It’s cool. Our enemies will stop when we misgender them. They’ll be so offended they’ll just walk away. [youtube]shorts/MmiajFd1pyY[/youtube] |
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Posted: 4/21/2023 10:39:59 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Flaw vs feature None of this is just a bunch of coincidental stupidity. Have you seen who runs the country? It’s very likely our elected leadership really IS that stupid. |
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Posted: 4/21/2023 10:41:15 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The XXLsub85s are definitely not the only problem. There are a shitload of service members leaving, and there are a variety of factors: Family Money No challenge Education Too much BS Etc. Shit, in 6 months or so, I'll be separating a few that are solid. They're second termers, know the job, perform well, good attitude, etc. The military just isn't what they want to do anymore. A couple years ago, separated an E6 that could have likely retired as an E7 or E8, but he cut the cord at 11 years. I'm gonna separate another one that's almost identically situated in their career. It isn't just disillusioned first termers that are checking out. It's bad, and on a downhill trend. People need to read this again. People say NCOs are the backbone of the military, and it is not all NCOs. It's the guys at E4-E6 who are the solid performers, because they are not just your front line trainers and QC. They are the recency of experience, and the guys who will be the next generation of mentors to juniors and advisors to leadership. And they are heading out the door. You can't recruit that guy. You have to train and invest in him and other than a few who show up to the Reserve, the vast majority of that investment is gone. |
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Posted: 4/21/2023 10:41:31 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Interesting that it’s Biden Administration panels and Democrat think tanks pushing that https://www.militarytimes.com/news/your-military/2023/01/26/experts-data-point-to-women-as-best-military-recruiting-pool/ https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/459941/13531C8E-181D-438A-AEDB-BC5DFAC07CD6_jpe-2791366.JPG Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Obviously…. We didn’t recruit enough stronk womenz, gays and trannys, and promote enough of the same via relaxing standards, just for them. while kicking those toxic white male warriors out in droves. we just need to do that harder ! Interesting that it’s Biden Administration panels and Democrat think tanks pushing that https://www.militarytimes.com/news/your-military/2023/01/26/experts-data-point-to-women-as-best-military-recruiting-pool/ https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/459941/13531C8E-181D-438A-AEDB-BC5DFAC07CD6_jpe-2791366.JPG They need to open females up to the draft |
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Posted: 4/21/2023 10:42:06 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: IMHO, the constant politicization of America’s wars by the left, the botched withdrawal from Afghanistan, and the progressive agenda that prioritizes social engineering over fighting and winning wars really destroyed any incentive for young white males to sign the dotted line. The Pentagon has a plan to fix this, but it won’t be popular here. Oh well. What plan would that be? IRR recalls? Retiree recall? Stop loss? |
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Posted: 4/21/2023 10:42:46 PM EDT
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No one wants to defend a culture that isn't theirs.
This isn't the same country it was 20 years ago. |
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Posted: 4/21/2023 10:45:26 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: They need to open females up to the draft https://www.npr.org/2021/06/07/1003270634/supreme-court-turns-away-challenge-to-the-rule-that-only-men-register-for-the-dr  Attached File |
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Posted: 4/21/2023 10:46:09 PM EDT
[#33]
Nothing will get any better with this Admin... Rice, Obama, their just continuing America's down fall...
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Posted: 4/21/2023 10:48:01 PM EDT
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Posted: 4/21/2023 10:49:46 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: What plan would that be? IRR recalls? Retiree recall? Stop loss? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: IMHO, the constant politicization of America’s wars by the left, the botched withdrawal from Afghanistan, and the progressive agenda that prioritizes social engineering over fighting and winning wars really destroyed any incentive for young white males to sign the dotted line. The Pentagon has a plan to fix this, but it won’t be popular here. Oh well. What plan would that be? IRR recalls? Retiree recall? Stop loss? Those measures will probably precede it, but rumor is that a study is (or was) being conducted somewhere within DoD on how to sell a peacetime draft to the public because the AVF isn’t providing the services with the numbers needed to meet mission requirements around the globe. Retiree and IRR recalls are only a stop gap measure. |
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Posted: 4/21/2023 10:50:29 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Nothing will get any better with this Admin... Rice, Obama, their just continuing America's down fall... “Managed decline” to be exact. |
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Posted: 4/21/2023 10:50:54 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: No one wants to defend a culture that isn't theirs. This isn't the same country it was 20 years ago. This!!! |
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Posted: 4/21/2023 10:51:02 PM EDT
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They want more cucks.
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Posted: 4/21/2023 11:10:19 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Have you seen who runs the country? It's very likely our elected leadership really IS that stupid. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Flaw vs feature None of this is just a bunch of coincidental stupidity. Have you seen who runs the country? It's very likely our elected leadership really IS that stupid. There are some real brains putting those obvious corrupt dolts where they are, or its just that easy once power is obtained.. |
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Posted: 4/21/2023 11:15:35 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Tattoos aren't much of a problem anymore as long as they're not on your hands, neck or face. Well that all depends on which quarter it is. |
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Posted: 4/21/2023 11:18:37 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: They cannot trip up and fall over and over again UP the ladder of success and power. There are some real brains putting those obvious corrupt dolts where they are, or its just that easy once power is obtained.. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Flaw vs feature None of this is just a bunch of coincidental stupidity. Have you seen who runs the country? It's very likely our elected leadership really IS that stupid. There are some real brains putting those obvious corrupt dolts where they are, or its just that easy once power is obtained.. We know there’s big money backing radical leftists running for office so yes, it’s possible. |
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Posted: 4/21/2023 11:34:27 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: They need to open females up to the draft Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Obviously…. We didn’t recruit enough stronk womenz, gays and trannys, and promote enough of the same via relaxing standards, just for them. while kicking those toxic white male warriors out in droves. we just need to do that harder ! Interesting that it’s Biden Administration panels and Democrat think tanks pushing that https://www.militarytimes.com/news/your-military/2023/01/26/experts-data-point-to-women-as-best-military-recruiting-pool/ https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/459941/13531C8E-181D-438A-AEDB-BC5DFAC07CD6_jpe-2791366.JPG They need to open females up to the draft No. They need to make being registered for the draft (whether you are actually draftable/meet standards or not) a condition of voting, regardless of gender. Also adjust selective service to be two tiers. Make first tier optional (draft me first) and keep the second tier the current mandatory for men system. If a man doesn't volunteer for first tier draft, no vote for him either. Again, he doesn't even necessarily have to be physically qualified...but if he wouldn't risk himself qualified or not....no vote. Don't force people to register. If simply no register, no vote, then a lot of the weakest, most afraid of their own shadow, who drag those around them down out of fear will be out of the decision making process. |
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Posted: 4/21/2023 11:45:36 PM EDT
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Let’s whine about culture-war trash and send them another 100 billion
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Posted: 4/21/2023 11:49:24 PM EDT
[#44]
No plan to fix? So obviously this was an intentional act to weaken the US Department of Defense, our National Defense capability.
Now was it to fundementally transform the .mil into a politically-reliable weapon to be used against the demmunists' political enemies or done under orders from Pedo Joe Beijing Biden's Communist Chinese overlords? Either way Lloyd Austin and Pedo Joe Beijing Biden need to be impeached and convicted. |
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Posted: 4/21/2023 11:54:39 PM EDT
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Spoke to an E7 friend of mine who dropped his papers recently who told me things are so bad for Army recruiting the minimum ASVAB score has dropped down to 10.
That basically means if you are breathing through your mouth and meet all other physical requirements, you're in. Top men are investigating this. What kind of top men? Top. Men. |
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Posted: 4/21/2023 11:59:05 PM EDT
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You mean "Come fight for the country that's undermining everything you hold dear" isn't the recruiting windfall they all expected?
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Posted: 4/22/2023 12:09:45 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: You mean "Come fight for the country that's undermining everything you hold dear" isn't the recruiting windfall they all expected? They claim woke has deterred nobody and the reason not enough women are joining us because the Supreme Court abortion ruling scared them away. The claim is young people today misunderstand military service because they want people without relatives who have served in the military but they claim polls show young people think they will get hurt or die so marketing needs to improve explaining that won’t happen. |
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Posted: 4/22/2023 12:11:44 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: You mean "Come fight for the country that's undermining everything you hold dear" isn't the recruiting windfall they all expected? Succinctly put. You don’t even know the half of it, either. I pray I’ll have my 214 in hand before war with China. Maybe the troons can take a break from blasting schools and land on the Spratleys instead. |
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Posted: 4/22/2023 12:17:10 AM EDT
[#49]
I forgot that we had Space Force. ??
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Posted: 4/22/2023 12:18:28 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I forgot that we had Space Force. ?? It’s like 3 people and most of the rank insignia looks like ass |
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