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Posted: 11/28/2005 8:46:59 AM EDT
Repeat after me…
“Abortion is not murder” “Abortion is not murder” “Abortion is not murder” Yea right… www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,2087-1892696,00.html
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These people don't care. |
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+1. It's all about convenience. |
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I'm pro killing babies. Never have done it. Never will do it.
From a moral standpoint that is devoid of emotion and FEELINGS I don't see a problem with it. |
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anyone who thinks abortion is not taking a human life is lying to themselves.
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I'm sure you couldn't care less, but I'm sad for you. |
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I assume you are considering how you let feelings determine your morals. |
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Placing a high value on human life is not empty emotionalism. Your moral standpoint is also devoid of compassion for the helpless. Is that moral? |
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It will get locked long before it hits that point. |
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Its not about my feelings. I just have a problem with murdering the innocent. |
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I was thinking more on the lines of 87 |
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What we got here boys is a modern day Aristotle |
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STFU you brainless lifeless gob of goo!!! |
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Helpless what? Basically it all depends on your definition of who or what has a right to life. |
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Tagged to see the baby-murder apologists come out of the woodwork.
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+ 1,000,000 |
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Abortionists claim a fetus is not "fully human" - just like the slaveholders claimed blacks were not "fully human" and how the Nazis claimed Jews were not "fully human". All manner of atrocities are done when those committing those atrocities get to define who is "human" and who has a "right to life". |
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The product of human reproduction is: HUMAN.
Killing human beings without cause is just plain wrong. Abortion is the greatest moral evil of our time. |
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+1 |
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please describe a logical definition of "human" that would not include Jews, Afro Americans, and babies but would include yourself or for instance the common american. |
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Hmm. I cannot imagine how Jessen must feel, knowing your parents made the decision to abort you. Or the guilt her parents must feel when they look at their child. he
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Narrow your definition. |
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do you honestly think that they actually use beef in that stuff? |
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Cat, dog. Beef is NOT elastic! |
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+1. Just like going to Ihop before/after church. Commerce on the Sabbath is an offense for which the prescribed punishment is stoning AFAIK but it doesn't stop the hypocrites from doing this while condemning that. |
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I just saw this...I was both stunned and sickened.
Anyone with two brain cells to rub together recognizes that abortion after about six weeks of human fetal development is infanticide...murder. Even as we all realize that fact, a major portion of our society still views this murder as something less...a "termination"...a "right"...just an "abortion". And sadly, our entire society continues to wrestle with this so hard. It ought not to be difficult...but it is. We kill babies with such ease...and we fret and whine about executing serial killers. We discuss the "rights" of kiddy rapers and lifer convicts...but we fight like hell to let a woman "choose" right up to the end of the 3rd trimester. Makes you wonder how many of these take place in America every year. |
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Narrow my definition? You and I are human beings. At one point in our development we were both in the womb. We were no less human in the womb than out of the womb, as the womb is a PART OF HUMAN DEVELOPMENT. |
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I sure hope all you Antis are also against Capital Punishment, I'd hate for anyone to be a hypocrite.
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No. That's just the point - there IS no "logical defintion" of "human" that excludes Jews, Blacks, babies, kids with cerebral palsy, severe Down's syndrome, comatose geriatric paraplegics, fetuses, etc. I'm not the one limiting the defintion of "human" to just those people who can (or used to) breathe on their own. YOU describe a "logical definition' of "human" that would include Jews, Blacks, babies, kids with cerebral palsy, severe Down's syndrome, comatose geriatric paraplegics on ventilators and yet EXCLUDE fetuses. |
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ok, since you guys are all for adoption instead of abortion, why arent you standing outside abortion clinics offering women a package deal where you pay for all prenatal care with an agreement to adopt the child upon birth?
seriously, Abortion is an ugly thing, but I dont see too many people trying to save babies. I personally dont care, it doesnt cause any harm to me so I tolerate it, all I ask is that people tolerate what I wish to do that does not harm them. things like owning guns, shooting, hunting, fishing, you know stuff that most pro abortion types want to ban. I think its a fair trade. |
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Oh please. |
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I've read/heard Hitler's, Mother's Doctor recommended she have an abortion because she was raped by her uncle (hitler's father). imagine what that abortion might have changed.
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There are numerous groups who do exactly that. |
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+1 And it (abortion) prevents an overwhelming democrat majority. |
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No, commerce on the Sabbath isn't a sin. Eating at IHOP on Sunday isn't a sin. Persuing commerce to the exclusion of God's kingdom on the sabbath or any other day IS a sin. |
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Innocent baby versus mass murderer. One has no guilt, no blame. the other took it upon themselves to commit multiple horrendous acts. The purpose of society is to protect the defenseless. Being anti-abortion and pro-death penalty serve the same purpose. Babies are, by definition, defenseless. The Northeast is truly lost. |
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You must go to Ihop before or after church. Why don't you go read the good book and worry about your own business. Don't remember it verbatim but something like plucking the beam out of your own eye before trying to pluck the piece of sawdust out of your neighbors. |
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That is without a doubt the most idiotic and asinine thing I have ever read on ARFCOM. |
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Your Scripture-fu is weak. |
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Sorry Fred, but your saying killing a child isn't an immoral thing to do... Since reason has a big part in morals what reason do you find it a ok for a healthy baby that is no danger to its mother to be aborted? |
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How so? Don't you believe that the people getting most of the abortions are dregs and losers whose kids will end up on the doll or in prison? |
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Go back on your sabbatical. |
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No, I avoid IHOP altogether if I can help it.
The killing of innocent people IS my buisness. It is everyone's buisness.
That would mean that going to IHOP would be the "beam" whereas killing an unborn child would be a "speck", which would be an unsupportable conclusion either by scriptural edict or common sense. If you see a Christian going to Wal-Mart to pick up a loaf of bread after church on Sunday as being morally equal to or worse than killing someone, then you have one seriously messed up outlook. |
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You like so many others of your ilk...continue to miss the salient point of difference between an unborn baby and an adult murderer: The baby has no choice. If the mother decides to kill it...it's a goner. The murderer HAS a choice...and he/she chose to kill. Societies for thousands of years have taken a dim view of murder and have imposed severe sanctions on the killers including death. The baby has done no crime...why should it be killed...and why would you make this comparison? |
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what's wrong? never going to look at stir fry the same way again? |
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Yes we may all be living in a communist world. Hitler was a necessary evil. |
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I believe that he was expressing the idea of pre-emptive capital punishment as being morally repugnant. |
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