Genisis 9:13


Proverbs 16:18


I know how these passages  are traditionally viewed.  And never have I heard them mentioned together that I can ever think of.  However would it be not like God to use those who claim to be against him in order to get his message out?  I often pray that God would make himself more visible, his message more clear.  And everywhere we look we see "Pride", and the Rainbow together.  

Coincidence?  

You can spend your entire life making obscure connections between verses if you try hard enough to confirm your biases.

IMO, that's not the best use of time when approaching Sacred Scripture.

As I've said before, at this point in Christianity the Bible isn't there for you to "discover" anything. The Word and its accurate interpretation are already there, provided by the institution given the sole authority to do so, and that's not you or me.

Oh I know VG,  no one gets to God but through the RCC.   Galileo was a heretic as well.    Also I am glad you know God well enough to know who he has given authority to.  


Do you think it is out of God's ability?  After all it was just a break in the clouds with the sun shining through 312 years after Christ that created the RCC to begin with.  Where in scripture was the sign that Constantine saw?


ETA: what bias am I confirming? I noticed two things together that are both mentioned in scripture.   Something done in masses every Sunday.

OP, I believe we are the end time generation. It seems Daniel, Ezekiel, and the book of Revelation are spot on. Possibly the fifth Trump, Vial, and Seal.

Oof

Things much worse than what are happening in our country right now have been happening elsewhere in the world for the last 2000 years.

Don't be fooled into thinking because it's happening HERE that it must be a sign of the end times. The USA isn't special - at least in that way.

Of course, I might be wrong. As another poster said - there are other things to focus on. If it is the end, it's even MORE important to focus on those other things, anyway.

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Yup. Every generation thinks they are the ones to discover the end times. That's simply not the case. Even Scripture discusses how there will be many false signs throughout the ages.

I find it not to be a coincidence that these two items, from separate books in the Bible, are being thrust in our faces at this time in history.   The pride is not about any one group.  I see it as his warning to us as a whole that we are coming to a fall.  And the rainbow is just that.  A colorful sign meant to draw our attention,  and remind us of the last time he was this cross with us, and his angels.

And so be it. It's a private revelation or an opinion at most, which all of us are certainly welcome to. If you find it a strong connection with some value to your Christian beliefs that's great. I would just be careful not to try and place it on the same level as articles of faith, or universal doctrines.

The scary thing is it is not just here.  The Pride movement is global.  With the exception of a few countries that will kill them for flying anything that is not a crescent moon.

I recently finished a study guide written in the late 40's.  At that time they believe the nuclear bomb was a sign of God's power.  When else in history has man been so connected to one another since the story of The Tower of Bable.  God confused our languages the scattered us about the world. The internet has undone all of that.  

The difference today from all other generations is that this generation has seen the Jews return to Israel and is now a stumbling block for all the world.
The difference today from all other generations is that this generation has seen all the cities and lands listed in Psalm 83 declare their hatred for the Jews and are in a unified Iranian command.
The difference today from all other generations is that this generation has seen the technology to have a one world controlled economic system.

You're assuming that the independent Israeli state is a precursor or requisite to the end times. In other words, eschatology is not uniform and most Evangelical, Fundamentalists, and some Protestants (who seem to be the most obsessed with this stuff anyway) are basing their "truths" on when and what they know about the end times from 19th century ideas.

Live your life like Christ is coming today.

For fuck's sakes.

I’m sure people have been thinking that end times are right around the corner for a long time

Edited ~ medicmandan

WHAT IN THE WORLD DOES THIS MEAN?

Like how there is likely always somebody out there thinking he will be coming soon but hasn’t yet

Edited ~ medicmandan

This isn't GD.

An interesting question.

Keep in mind that Satan apes/mocks the divine and good, and so too do his minions.

I recall reading, though I cannot recall where exactly, that one of the big reasons for the Flood was the proliferation of sodomy, bestiality, and incest. Hence, it is fitting that a mocking symbol of such a milieu would be the symbol of the rainbow, which is related to the Flood.

As far as pride understood biblically (being above what one is), this is not exactly what the homosexuals mean in a pure manner though they do exhibit it insofar as believing themselves superior to us lowly "breeders". And, in doing so, do exhibit the vice of pride.

St. Thomas Aquinas defines pride as:
ST/II-II/Q162/Art1 (https://www.newadvent.org/summa/3162.htm#article1)

The origins of the Pride events do have an element of diabolical rebellion and disorientation:


https://www.bustle.com/articles/167359-why-is-it-called-pride-heres-why-the-name-of-junes-lgbtq-festivities-is-significant

What began as a rebellion culminates in a "celebration", not of being higher than the other(society), but of dragging down society so that it engages in inordinate subservience and a cloyingly saccharine level of being obsequious. In reality, the homosexuals have never engaged in an ontological shift "up". They *cannot* reproduce unless they "lower" themselves, they *cannot* escape the reality of self-hatred, they *cannot* be content with tolerance and have moved towards force acceptance (which will not be good enough since it has the same character as a forced apology), etc.

But, as far as your thought on the connectedness of the two verses, it is unlikely to be anymore than a weird coincidence.

This.

Honestly I don't worry about signs of the end times until America get disarmed. There is no way to have a one world government with armed Christians in America. That is my sign that it is upon us.

What makes you think we won't be disarmed in a series of Russian-Sino thermonuclear flashes 50 years before the tribulation even begins?

Every person's individual end time could be in moments or decades.

This.

America does not noticably feature in Revelation.  

And God places signs in front of all man to see and know him, and turn to him, and ultimately have no excuse.

https://www.ar15.com/forums/general/EU-threatens-Hungary-allow-globohomo-to-recruit-and-indoctrinate-your-children-or-leave-EU/5-2464867/

https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/respect-lgbt-rights-or-leave-eu-hungarys-orban-told-2021-06-25/

It is global.  This is special for the US.

Cool. Enlighten me then.
Make the case and cite the Scriptures that lay out the scenario where "the Times of Jacob's Troubles" don't require the Jews to be back in Israel.

Why would I start there, when we would first have to examine which is the correct context, i.e. Pre-Millennialism, Post-Millennialism or Amillennialism?

The second thing we would have to look at is why are you limiting the Word of God to only "make the case and cite the Scriptures that lay out the scenario where...". Why would you eliminate His mandates to the Apostles, Church, Sacred Tradition etc.?

You are trying to create a false premise and then asking others to prove a false notion in your false premise.

All I know is that Jonathan Cahn and John Hagee made a big deal of the blood moons and it seemingly came to nothing.  One must be very careful with signs.  The Deceiver can produce false signs as well.  

The biggest sign that people should take note of is that the Jews reestablished their nation in 1948.  For even the most cursory interpretation of end times prophecy that has to be a big one.  Some people look for a third temple to be built; others say it's not necessary.