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Posted: 12/15/2018 7:07:44 PM EDT
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There's several other module specific threads, I'll gonna link them here into this thread, just to make them easier to find.
The two that I know of: Heatblur F-14B DCS thread F/A-18C DCS Thread MFD Hardware Thread My main intent however is to use this thread as a starting point for finally getting some DCS multiplayer games going, and maybe have a place for other generic topics and questions like game setup, srs, trackir's, hardware, stuff of that nature. I created a discord, I'll try to hang out in it. If you're interested in doing some flying just hop in and see if there's anyone in there? https://discord.gg/durpxdG Would be fun to get together with some like minded folks for some missions and other assorted fuckery. |
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Originally Posted By CropDusterC6: The A-10 pairs better with the F-16 IMO, since they have similar avionics/HOTAS. It's a mind fuck for me still switching back and forth between those 2 and the Hornet. View Quote |
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Originally Posted By Harlikwin:
Hornet and harrier are similar too. If you are looking for paired modules. Not that i reccomend the harrier to anyone. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Harlikwin:
Originally Posted By CropDusterC6: The A-10 pairs better with the F-16 IMO, since they have similar avionics/HOTAS. It's a mind fuck for me still switching back and forth between those 2 and the Hornet. |
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Originally Posted By Towely:
Why not the harrier? Just because it's a harrier or is the model done poorly? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Towely:
Originally Posted By Harlikwin:
Originally Posted By CropDusterC6: The A-10 pairs better with the F-16 IMO, since they have similar avionics/HOTAS. It's a mind fuck for me still switching back and forth between those 2 and the Hornet. For what it's worth I enjoy flying the Harrier on occasion. |
At this point in time, are you of the opinion that nothing that's come out about Andy or his wife should be looked into in regards to conflict of interest, or, regarding his wife, quid pro quo shenanigans?
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Originally Posted By Towely: Why not the harrier? Just because it's a harrier or is the model done poorly? View Quote [Rant on] Razbam has entirely pigfucked it. Its been out for 2+ years and day1 bugs are still there, entire systems are missing or mismodled based on available documentation. And speaking of documentation, razbad seeks to give you a franken bird with a lovely mix of features that a single plane never actually had per actual usmc maintainers. Bug wise, lemme tell you how much folks loved to have a non functional ASL line for bombing for 1.5 years on a plane whose primary mission it is to drop bombs. The ARBS (primary bombing system) is barely modeled above "arcade mode" and is still missing features like moving target compensation and wind correction cuz you know who the fuck would need that. The entire loft bombing system (heavily used IRL) totally missing. The INS system which is central to all weapon delivery functions? Not modled, you gots that thar GPS thingie after all. Usefull AA modes like SEAM dont work and the even more useful DMT sidewinder slave isnt even on the roadmap most likely. The FM is crap by even my low standards (and they are, believe me). I could go on, but you get the picture. And what Razbad hasn't manged to pork ED/DCS world has. Like the absolutely absurd FARPs that are a bad joke, no roadbase functionality (this might work offline now?) And you cant even fucking take off from the tarawa online without backdoor finger fucking the server for nearly 2 years, and that only works sometimes. So if you want to buy half finished franken harrier with little hopes of it ever actually being completed or bug fixed, by all means buy it to support the shittiest dev in the DCS eco system. Ps their lead coder thinks youre that better idiot they keep telling him about per his online signature line. And if you buy it, well, hes probably right... The thing that really pisses me off is that if the Harrier was developed by literally any other developer it would probably be the best module in DCS. [Rant off] *this opinion is worth exactly what you paid for it. TLDR Some people like it cuz its unique and it does sorta work these days. But there are tons of bugs and innacuracies. And its really hard to use as an actual VSTOL plane or Marine plane online. If you dont care for realism and want to fly a clickable fc3 plane it could be your next ride. The other Raz modules have similar problems with the m2k probably being the best of them. Though its being remodeled so its back to WIP status. But lamentably the Wazbaham business model is to pump out one barely functional module per year regardless of incomplete their other ones are (mig19 ring a bell?). So expect a crappy mig23 this year, or maybe the dumpster fire of an F15E (Which of course won't actually have AI multicrew, cuz you know that's actually hard to do, and Razbam doesn't do hard). They might fuck up the Bo-105 too if they sign that contract. Id buy heatblur or deka M3 or aviodev long before id consider any Raz module. |
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Thanks for your .02. Unfortunate to see officially sponsored content allowed to be done so poorly.
Is there a list anywhere that shows(with some accuracy) what planes are modeled very well, well, poorly as well as showing how complex each one is modeled(from full systems, clickable cockpits, to arcade systems, no clickable cockpit etc). Tough to find accurate info that goes into detail the pros and cons of different models with any accuracy. Steam reviews are most assuredly worth what you pay for them and the Harrier has a "very good" rating on Steam so... doesn't seem that should be trusted. |
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Originally Posted By Harlikwin: I love the actual plane. Like really really love it, its one of my favorite A/C. [Rant on] View Quote |
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"Even though it may seem that the OP is mentally disabled, calling him a "retard" is a personal attack." - DKProf
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Originally Posted By GilenusX207: It's a real shame that Raz has locked down some of the most interesting projects in DCS (Strike Eagle, Flogger, SuperTuc) when it's very apparent they don't have the chops to do any of them justice. I fully anticipate them breaking their promise to finish current EA modules before releasing something new, for the same reason ED is addicted to early access (cash flow). View Quote At the end of the day I think most guys could care less about the M2k or the Mig19. But the F15E is going to be a dumpster fire IMO, its way more complicated than the Harrier systems wise and they have demonstrated with the harrier that they just can't hack complicated systems like that. I'm a wee bit more optimistic about the mig23 since its much simpler and the mig19 despite being a fiasco at release is 6 months later at least sorta flyable, though I really think they need to do more work on the FM. But at the end of the day the Flogger is basically a M2k in terms of capability so they know how to build a basic radar, some Fox1's and 2's to go with it, they will sort-of borrow as much of the mig-19 systems and cram them in as best as they can. They claim they will do the Lazur datalink (which it desperately needs) but I doubt its gonna be anything good. Also, given its complex aero being a swing wing its gonna have FM issues that make the mig19's FM problems look small (and they're not). |
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Think I'm going to stick with the FC3 models and grab the F-5E or M2000 while they are cheap. I'm assuming you can still have a fair bit of fun with the F-5E online and it seems stupid easy to learn relatively speaking.
M2000 seems a bit more complex but probably more competitive online. Only concern if I go with the F-5E is it almost seems too easy. Sure you're up and running in short order but doesn't seem like it would be great at learning the basics of some of the more advanced weapon systems. edit: oorrr... I may just say fuck it and grab the F-16 as it's my favorite aircraft currently modeled and something I'd actually have a strong interest in mastering. |
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Originally Posted By Towely:
Think I'm going to stick with the FC3 models and grab the F-5E or M2000 while they are cheap. I'm assuming you can still have a fair bit of fun with the F-5E online and it seems stupid easy to learn relatively speaking. M2000 seems a bit more complex but probably more competitive online. Only concern if I go with the F-5E is it almost seems too easy. Sure you're up and running in short order but doesn't seem like it would be great at learning the basics of some of the more advanced weapon systems. edit: oorrr... I may just say fuck it and grab the F-16 as it's my favorite aircraft currently modeled and something I'd actually have a strong interest in mastering. View Quote A-A it can potentially hold its own against Gen 4... the problem is actually getting to the merge without eating a Fox 1/Fox 3 for which you have no answer. Against similar aircraft (Mig19/21) I’ve had some of my most fun and satisfying dogfights in DCS. A-G it is fully manual, which actually makes you plan an attack and fly an attack profile instead of just fly to the target area and let CCIP/CCRP do the work. It takes a lot of practice but man is it fun when it all comes together. Lack of standoff weapons means you are not nearly as survivable over a defended target. |
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"Even though it may seem that the OP is mentally disabled, calling him a "retard" is a personal attack." - DKProf
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Originally Posted By GilenusX207: The F-5 is a great plane, but it’s difficult to master, and you absolutely have to understand it’s limitations or you’ll quickly find a situation in DCS where it’s out of its element. A-A it can potentially hold its own against Gen 4... the problem is actually getting to the merge without eating a Fox 1/Fox 3 for which you have no answer. Against similar aircraft (Mig19/21) I’ve had some of my most fun and satisfying dogfights in DCS. A-G it is fully manual, which actually makes you plan an attack and fly an attack profile instead of just fly to the target area and let CCIP/CCRP do the work. It takes a lot of practice but man is it fun when it all comes together. Lack of standoff weapons means you are not nearly as survivable over a defended target. View Quote As for the M2k, its another "fine" raz product. Its a bit more competitive online due to having some fox1's but its still buggy as hell due to the current re-do (oh wait, they didn't actually have SME's or good documentation the first time....) and its ground attack capability has been borked for years ( CCRP) and again, no interest from them to fix it. |
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I'll mirror the other guys, I love my F-5E. I flew the crap out of it when I first started DCS because the systems are simple and the ground attack made a lot of sense. If you can stay low and have GCI or Air Control, you can seriously ruin Red team's day. You are tiny and hard to see with good acceleration and if you can drag a hornet slow you can kill him with guns. It's very satisfying to start turning with an F-14 or F-15 (if they even come down from 40k) and get a sidewinder in their tail pipe. My favorite thing to do with the F-5 on the caucus map is to get low and try a snake eye delivery or rockets on vehicles or an airfield, then punch off my pylons and find a Red fighter.
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Originally Posted By SmilingBandit:
Two things to check: - make sure you are both running the same version - have the”public server” box checked and add a password to the server View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By SmilingBandit:
Originally Posted By Seth_Livzz: TBH, not sure. It seems, after exhaustive searching, port forwarding is usually the culprit. If it's not port forwarding then I have no idea what else it could be. He completely shut off his firewall and Windows defender and still no dice. - make sure you are both running the same version - have the”public server” box checked and add a password to the server |
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Originally Posted By Seth_Livzz: Yesterday we found out its easier to run a dedicated server than trying to play peer to peer. We had a blast running missions he created. And I learned a lot from his immediate input versus the instruction you get from the training tutorials. View Quote |
At this point in time, are you of the opinion that nothing that's come out about Andy or his wife should be looked into in regards to conflict of interest, or, regarding his wife, quid pro quo shenanigans?
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Originally Posted By RichieRich3902:
I'll mirror the other guys, I love my F-5E. I flew the crap out of it when I first started DCS because the systems are simple and the ground attack made a lot of sense. If you can stay low and have GCI or Air Control, you can seriously ruin Red team's day. You are tiny and hard to see with good acceleration and if you can drag a hornet slow you can kill him with guns. It's very satisfying to start turning with an F-14 or F-15 (if they even come down from 40k) and get a sidewinder in their tail pipe. My favorite thing to do with the F-5 on the caucus map is to get low and try a snake eye delivery or rockets on vehicles or an airfield, then punch off my pylons and find a Red fighter. View Quote |
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Originally Posted By CavScout:
The FC3 models feel dated to me (which they are now I suppose) and the new A-10C feels good to fly and looks fantastic in the cockpit. It is on sale 50% off until the 5th. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By CavScout:
Originally Posted By Towely:
Originally Posted By CavScout:
Originally Posted By Towely:
Now that I have a few months of free time I'm looking at finally getting a handle on this game. All I own is the original Flaming Cliffs pack and I haven't played it in years. Barely learned out to drop bombs with the A-10 before I parted ways with the game. Looking at grabbing a multi-role platform but more interested in ground attack than anything. Was thinking about grabbing the F-18 but open to suggestions as I know the quality of aircraft varies a fair bit in DCS(and have no idea what's good and what isn't). Also whatever I get I'm open to links for some youtube tutorials on how to start the thing(among other necessary tasks). And is there currently a true dynamic campaign available? Not a big fan of linear mission 1-x campaigns. I know for a while there was some big multiplayer operation going on that lightly mimicked a multiplayer dynamic campaign but I can't recall what it was called or details on it. Some manner of open world multiplayer chaos would be my thing more than pre-scripted missions. Money is a big issue right now as I'm going back to school for a semester so only the wife is working. Not that I couldn't pop for a new airframe or two, I'd just hate to dump a ton of hours learning aircraft that I'll never fly again if they are severely outdated. edit: Just went standalone to get the sale price. Grabbed the F-5E and F-18 while it's cheap. If I get the hang of the F-18 maybe I'll grab the 16 when it's a little further along and goes on sale. |
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Just ordered an HP Reverb, first venture into VR.
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Pics of the new free map are coming out - it's the Mariana Islands, so Guam and others. I think this was a good choice and I was expecting a Pacific island map. Good for later WW2 battles as well as adding a good dynamic for naval battles.
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Originally Posted By Bushamster21:
Pics of the new free map are coming out - it's the Mariana Islands, so Guam and others. I think this was a good choice and I was expecting a Pacific island map. Good for later WW2 battles as well as adding a good dynamic for naval battles. View Quote Nice to see the goal of both Viper and Hornet out of EA by the end of the year. |
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"Even though it may seem that the OP is mentally disabled, calling him a "retard" is a personal attack." - DKProf
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Originally Posted By Bushamster21:
Pics of the new free map are coming out - it's the Mariana Islands, so Guam and others. I think this was a good choice and I was expecting a Pacific island map. Good for later WW2 battles as well as adding a good dynamic for naval battles. View Quote |
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Originally Posted By Harlikwin: Yeah I think it is a very interesting choice. and it might be a hint to where ED is looking to go in terms of remote naval action. It would really interesting if the modeled the Liaoning and a J15 as upcoming modules, maybe with Deka. Or a modern Mig29K and an updated Kuzenestov. View Quote |
At this point in time, are you of the opinion that nothing that's come out about Andy or his wife should be looked into in regards to conflict of interest, or, regarding his wife, quid pro quo shenanigans?
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Originally Posted By SmilingBandit:
It'd also be nice to have a naval damage model that was worth anything. My buddy and I practiced Harpoons this week and put eight of them into a cruiser only to leave it at about half health and still ready to fight. View Quote I know it's probably not popular, but I think the 2020 goal for hornet and viper completion is a pretty reasonable goal. |
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Originally Posted By SmilingBandit:
It'd also be nice to have a naval damage model that was worth anything. My buddy and I practiced Harpoons this week and put eight of them into a cruiser only to leave it at about half health and still ready to fight. View Quote I'd love to see deka do a J-15 and liaoning. But I'm pretty sure they can't/wont beyond AI/models. Or FC3 level at best. Its not like the russians were ever gonna send the Kuz down south to do anything, but I'm sure we will see that fictional scenario play out. I also find it interesting that this map is like 90% water, so a) fast to make, and b) will perform well since there is nothing to render (relatively speaking). Same deal for the upcoming raz falklands map. |
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Originally Posted By freerider04: A good damage model period would make the game 1000% better. That's my number 1 complaint. After that is FLIR and EW. I know it's probably not popular, but I think the 2020 goal for hornet and viper completion is a pretty reasonable goal. View Quote Why isn't it popular, I think ED could probably get the hornet done this year without too much more work, I think the Viper is a bit opmitistic but then again weapons are at least gonna be copy-pasta ish so I expect to see some rapid progress there. |
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Originally Posted By Harlikwin:
Why isn't it popular, I think ED could probably get the hornet done this year without too much more work, I think the Viper is a bit opmitistic but then again weapons are at least gonna be copy-pasta ish so I expect to see some rapid progress there. View Quote I think (and ED probably announced somewhere) that the hornet is really serving as a template for modern jets going forward. Because of that, I think viper work is probably going to go faster than most expect because they will have less go back and fix stuff projects and more done right the first time through. They need to be careful with how they run IADS behavior. With the EW environment they have right now a decent air defense network is going to make gameplay miserable or bland missions will be necessary. I know they don't want to get into a realistic modeling of the EW world, but they really need something different than the joke they have now |
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I also like the idea of the new free map. Like you said its easy to make, uses less resources, but it's also a great way to focus the action. It's also a smart move for pimping the carrier module coming
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Originally Posted By freerider04: Well, not unpopular here, but other places on the intertubes...... I think (and ED probably announced somewhere) that the hornet is really serving as a template for modern jets going forward. Because of that, I think viper work is probably going to go faster than most expect because they will have less go back and fix stuff projects and more done right the first time through. They need to be careful with how they run IADS behavior. With the EW environment they have right now a decent air defense network is going to make gameplay miserable or bland missions will be necessary. I know they don't want to get into a realistic modeling of the EW world, but they really need something different than the joke they have now View Quote |
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Originally Posted By freerider04:
I also like the idea of the new free map. Like you said its easy to make, uses less resources, but it's also a great way to focus the action. It's also a smart move for pimping the carrier module coming View Quote |
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Originally Posted By Harlikwin: Yeah sweet jesus that needs some serious work. Both damage modeling, CIWS/ADA systems, and actual damage from warheads. The harpoon and AKG on the jeff are a joke while the RB-15 and 04 on the viggen just cream ships. I'd love to see deka do a J-15 and liaoning. But I'm pretty sure they can't/wont beyond AI/models. Or FC3 level at best. Its not like the russians were ever gonna send the Kuz down south to do anything, but I'm sure we will see that fictional scenario play out. I also find it interesting that this map is like 90% water, so a) fast to make, and b) will perform well since there is nothing to render (relatively speaking). Same deal for the upcoming raz falklands map. View Quote |
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I'm excited for their F15E. Hopefully the rumours I've heard about it being front seat only with no option for live WSOs aren't true. Spent many days in high school watching the 15s at Bitburg come and go, huge 15 fan.
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Originally Posted By flightmed:
I'm excited for their F15E. Hopefully the rumours I've heard about it being front seat only with no option for live WSOs aren't true. Spent many days in high school watching the 15s at Bitburg come and go, huge 15 fan. View Quote |
At this point in time, are you of the opinion that nothing that's come out about Andy or his wife should be looked into in regards to conflict of interest, or, regarding his wife, quid pro quo shenanigans?
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If that's the case then they drop the idea of an E and go with a full fidelity C.
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My gratitude to the other animal that Jessica Alba touches, and to the coldest Tomcat pilot of the 80's !
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Not to derail much, but what HOTAS or stick combo are you all using?
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At this point in time, are you of the opinion that nothing that's come out about Andy or his wife should be looked into in regards to conflict of interest, or, regarding his wife, quid pro quo shenanigans?
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Ok nice. I had been using all T.16000 throttle stick and rudder. My wife bought me a warthog throttle for Christmas so I was wondering if it’s worth going to the warthog stick too?
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Originally Posted By RichieRich3902:
Ok nice. I had been using all T.16000 throttle stick and rudder. My wife bought me a warthog throttle for Christmas so I was wondering if it’s worth going to the warthog stick too? View Quote |
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Originally Posted By RichieRich3902:
Not to derail much, but what HOTAS or stick combo are you all using? View Quote I also still have my Hotas Warthog RSS1 with force sensors as a sidestick for the viper. yes, I spend way too much on this stuff |
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My gratitude to the other animal that Jessica Alba touches, and to the coldest Tomcat pilot of the 80's !
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What are you guys using for rudders? My Saitek's toe brake return spring broke and I'm looking to replace them soon.
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I'm just using Saitek still. There's not a lot of options between the cheap ones like that and very expensive ones.
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At this point in time, are you of the opinion that nothing that's come out about Andy or his wife should be looked into in regards to conflict of interest, or, regarding his wife, quid pro quo shenanigans?
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Alright finally up and running(ish).
Got some issues with my controls figured out and have been flying around in the F-5E. At my level it seems like just enough fiddling around to keep me interested but not at all overwhelmed. Probably a piss poor analogy but but feels a lot like boxing to me. Extremely limited on tools/abilities but mastering them requires a lot of work. I can drop eggs surprisingly accurate with very little stick time already but when things start hunting you down and shooting back this thing is...challenging. Haven't really bothered with the radar yet but not sure I'd use it much anyway, especially online. I'd sooner hug the ground and go unnoticed than announce my presence. I'm parking the game for now though. Can't find my trackIR anywhere. Got left at my parents house and after my mom passed my dad cleaned house and I fear it got caught in the crossfire and is gone. I think we have a PS4 camera so I'm probably just going to grab or build a tracking setup and use the PS4 camera. Hitting ground targets is plenty fun using the HAT switch to look around but trying to track a Mig with it is just annoying. Also I agree 100% on the comments about the DM. Game looks fantastic until you start shooting stuff off of stuff or putting holes in ships, then it really shows its ass... edit: is there a function that allows you to 'snap' your view back to center when you aren't using VR or head tracking? Mapped a few things that sounded like it was what I was looking for but as far as I can tell they didn't do anything at all. Would be nice to be able to snap back to forward quickly when I'm in a dogfight and lose orientation on where I'm looking. |
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Glad you like the F-5 it’s one of my favorites. The radar is really only used for ranging and is best left off until you’re saddled up behind a guy for a guns kill.
As for return to center try pressing 5 on the num pad. |
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Originally Posted By RichieRich3902:
Glad you like the F-5 it’s one of my favorites. The radar is really only used for ranging and is best left off until you’re saddled up behind a guy for a guns kill. As for return to center try pressing 5 on the num pad. View Quote |
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"Even though it may seem that the OP is mentally disabled, calling him a "retard" is a personal attack." - DKProf
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Originally Posted By Towely:
Alright finally up and running(ish). Got some issues with my controls figured out and have been flying around in the F-5E. At my level it seems like just enough fiddling around to keep me interested but not at all overwhelmed. Probably a piss poor analogy but but feels a lot like boxing to me. Extremely limited on tools/abilities but mastering them requires a lot of work. I can drop eggs surprisingly accurate with very little stick time already but when things start hunting you down and shooting back this thing is...challenging. Haven't really bothered with the radar yet but not sure I'd use it much anyway, especially online. I'd sooner hug the ground and go unnoticed than announce my presence. I'm parking the game for now though. Can't find my trackIR anywhere. Got left at my parents house and after my mom passed my dad cleaned house and I fear it got caught in the crossfire and is gone. I think we have a PS4 camera so I'm probably just going to grab or build a tracking setup and use the PS4 camera. Hitting ground targets is plenty fun using the HAT switch to look around but trying to track a Mig with it is just annoying. Also I agree 100% on the comments about the DM. Game looks fantastic until you start shooting stuff off of stuff or putting holes in ships, then it really shows its ass... edit: is there a function that allows you to 'snap' your view back to center when you aren't using VR or head tracking? Mapped a few things that sounded like it was what I was looking for but as far as I can tell they didn't do anything at all. Would be nice to be able to snap back to forward quickly when I'm in a dogfight and lose orientation on where I'm looking. View Quote F5 online, depending on the server not radiating can help. But servers with enemy human awacs you are likely boned. Cold war server is a good one for f5s plus you are your own awacs with the absurdley too modern rwr on that one. |
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