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Posted: 4/5/2008 6:51:34 AM EDT
Been doing great on my weight loss program. Was down to 228 two days ago. I was 267 at the beginning of January.
Yesterday, someone brought in lunch for everyone at work and my will power crumpled like a f-ing dixie cup. Pizza and subs. I had three slices of pizza and two portions of sub (probably about the equal to a 4" sub total. The stuff tasted so good I nearly cried. (yeah, I know, here's a corner off the man card...) Came home and had probably double the size plate of supper I've normally been eating, then way too many almonds as a snack afterwards. I am not even going to weigh in again until next Thursday so I can get four more heavy workouts out of the way first, but I feel like if I was a recovering alcoholic this would be the day I really needed to go to an AA meeting for an attitude check. So I'm posting here to do something similar. Hello. I'm silentmajority, and I'm a Food-a-holic. It's been 15 hours since I ate poorly. |
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Actually, you might be pleasantly surprised at how little effect (if any) one binge has on your weight. YMMV.
CONGRATS on the progress you've made so far. I know how hard it is. |
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QFT Your weight might spike due to food weight, retained water, etc, but your actual weight will return to normal in a few days. It's not a bad thing to splurge every now and again. I recommend it. |
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I feel your pain my friend. Sugar is my addiction. We gave it up for lent and I felt GREAT. Then came Easter. I ate sugar until I was sick. I woke up the next morning feeling like I had a hangover, eyes puffy, stomach ache felt horrible.
We've limited ourselves to a little dark chocolate and some occasional ice cream now, although I fall off the wagon and eat cookies till I almost puke sometimes. (there's a theory that the sugar in ice cream does not cause an insulin spike- I'm going to put that theory to the test! and dark chocolate has little sugar) Hi I'm Roland, and I'm addicted to sugar. |
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yes i have heard that once you get a few weeks into your diet it is good to splurge 1 day per week (NOT go crazy and eat 50 gallons of ice cream, but have some pizza and a few snacks, ect...) |
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I gave up my beloved Mt. Dew. I miss it so badly but I know what it's like to go without.
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BTDT, during my journey, yes it is a shitty feeling, but you'll be OK as long as you don't let it become habit - and you might find the cravings to be a bit worse again, for a bit. Probably a good move not to weigh yourself right away, as AGW mentioned, you might go up quite a bit in the next day or so as you retain water, but it'll go pretty quick.
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+1...my wife does weightwatchers and gives herself one "splurge" meal a week, within reason. helps keep her halfway sane. |
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man that's nothing. my work catered in maggiano's 2 wks ago. i had 2 huge meatballs, a CRAP TON of spaghetti, 4 smaller sized chicken breasts, 5 hugantic sized stalks of broccoli, some salad, 2 cookies and lemonade......i was stuffed like a turkey on thanksgiving but still made myself go workout (felt worse afterwards) and then that night felt about as guilty as a fox in the hen house.
needless to say, i haven't binged again like that since then and don't plan on it AT LEAST for the rest of my program (another 6 wks). it just gets to the point where you don't want to do it i guess bc you know it's not worth losing out on the hard work you've been putting in, that's the case for me anyway. |
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Thanks everyone. I appreciate the advice and support. Been settling back down into more typical sizes and types of meals through the weekend, and getting back to work today has helped put me back in my routine, too. Got two good workouts in over the weekend, and will get two more in tomorrow and Wednesday (the only nights I'm not on call), and will weigh-in on Thursday to make sure everything is staying on track. I hit another plateau for the last week or so, where my weight loss slows down, so I was hoping to see a better drop this week, but after Friday I'll just be happy to not have gone up. In five more weeks, I want to see where I'm at, and if I can get close to 200, I want to change from a weight loss regimen to keeping where I'm at, and start adding a lot more weight lifting to the mix.
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Sometimes, you benefit from a splurge. Your body might reach a little plateau, and a splurge, then getting back on the diet kind of jumpstarts the metabolism, and your continued efforts will be more fruitful.
don't be so hard on yourself. |
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Just sounds like you had a "cheat" meal to me. Usually about 1 a week won't hurt you to bad, just don't go over board.
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Your starting weight in January is exactly where I am now, and around 220 is where I'd like to end up (I'm 6'4" and any less than 215-220 probably isn't going to happen. Care to share a little about what you've done to get such great results? |
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Everything should be in this thread: www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=1&f=75&t=686919 My post is about 18 down on the 1st page, and I added it in the quote box below. I'm kind of bummed seeing the post below that I've REALLY stuck at this weight. I only lost 3 pounds from March 16 to April 3rd. When I started swimming in January, I was so out of shape the 1st night that I stopped after 5 laps not because I was so tired, which I was, but because I didn't want to risk having a heart attack. In a week I was up to 25 laps, and now I do 50 and have to stop because of time schedule constraints and boredom, but not from fatigue. My current schedule only lets me swim 4x/week, but in about a week that will change and I should be able to swim 7 days a week. The diet change was radical. I ate for years like I had a death wish. I'm hoping to get my weight down and then be able to eat a little more than now and hold steady instead of losing more. I've cut out chocolate pretty much entirely. I had a thin slice of my daughter's birthday cake, and one single Whopper malted milk ball since I started, and that is all. Chocolate is something that could totally blow it for me. I've had zero ice cream. Other than this past Friday, the only bad things I've had are nuts (I try to stick to almonds, but have had some peanuts and cashews which are both horrible for fat), and I'll have a few plain tortilla chips with salsa sometimes with a Smart Ones dinner. It comes down to logic. Exercise as much as possible and eat as little as possible. For me, the first two months were unreal as far as how fast I lost weight, and since then it has tapered but still losing 1-3 lbs per week. I had to buy a smaller belt, and my kids and co-workers are going from polite to more pointed comments about my clothes looking too big and baggy on me. Very best of luck if you do it. There's a lot of great advice in this section of the forum. I'm sure you'll find some regimen from the people here that will work for you.
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Good for the soul. |
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Wow man, that is really hardcore. I don't know that I can put that much into it, but if I can do it at half that rate of loss, I'll be happy. Kudos to you for deciding to do it and just getting it done. |
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First, congrats on your loss so far. Second, so you know where I'm coming from, I was ~325lb @ 5'10" 7 years ago when I finally "woke up" and realized I needed to change. Within 2 years, I was down to less than 135lbs, but I'm really not sure I was any healthier at that point as I took it way too fast and way to far. Emaciated would be the best word to describe where I had been - now I'm much healthier at 147lbs and currently lifting to gain more lean mass back. I am very much a person of extremes and find moderation difficult, and given what you've posted, it seems like you're of the same bent. I would say it is hard to argue, given what you've lost so far, but if you say you are stalling in your losses fortunately makes it a bit easier. Quite simply (and you may find this hard to believe at first), I think you need to eat more. At 1k calories/day for that sustained time period, if you aren't losing your metabolism is probably shot and the last thing your body wants to do is expend any of its stored energy. Without sitting down and breaking everything down, my second observation (first being not enough) is that you are taking in too many carbs and not enough protein and fat. Yes, fat is not necessarily a bad thing - the trans fats that most americans ingest are, but things like olive oil and especially fish oil are good for you, in moderation. What you posted seems to be around a 60/30/10 C/P/F split and I'd shoot for more around 40/30/30. If you are at 1000-1200kcal/day now, I'd try to gradually ramp up your intake to about 1800 (you probably even need to go higher) and see if that doesn't get you back on track. Once every 1.5-2 weeks, I'd try to eat at or above maintenance (don't pig out, do it clean) to help keep your metabolism from taking a dive again. If you, like me, tend to be an "all or nothing" kind of person this will be difficult, but it is better for you and learning to live in moderation is necessary. Without sitting down at fitday.com and calculating your macros and totals (I suggest you create an account there, if you don't have one already), I'd suggest: -Sub yogurt out with cottage cheese instead -Add 10g fish oil/day (there seem to be very few things that people in the nutrition and fitness worlds consistently agree on, but consuming fish oil is one of them, so I pay attention) -Replace the frozen meals with whole foods. I know you said you have a busy schedule, but if you are making chicken for dinner anyway, it isn't that much harder to buy the family back and cook up enough for 2-3 days worth of lunches at a time - it will keep just fine. -Don't be afraid to use some olive oil on your salad -Eggs are a great source of nutrition for the time-challenged individual. Yes, even whole eggs, but if you are calorie-phobic for now (and believe me I understand), then just eat the whites (it is pure protein - about 4g/egg) or mix a few whites with a whole egg. -Why do you say nuts are bad?! Yes, the contain fat and so are very calorie-dense, but you need to get away from the idea that all fat is bad for you. Taken in moderation, these are good! Although, I'd tend to stick with almonds/walnuts/pecans over peanuts. I think those changes will balance out your macros a bit, but ultimately, I think your body just needs more. ETA: I was reading the big quote where it said you stalled, but then I read the new reply to this thread again where it said you are still losing up to 3lbs a week. I still think your metabolism is shot and you need to eat more, but realize that 3lbs/week is quite a bit to lose (although not really unusual at your size), so you may need to rethink your expectations as well - much of the big loss at the beginning was just water. Also read further that you are getting burnt out in the diet - this is where the "re-feed" every 1.5-2 weeks where you eat at or above maintenance helps out. |
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Had a good surprise this morning. We have a digital scale at work, so I got on it without shoes first thing when I got in the office today.
200.4 lbs. That was my primary weight loss goal. I started at 267 in January. If I make it to 185-190, and pending the results of an MRI tomorrow for a recent back injury, I am going to look into healthy supplements to promote building muscle mass, and resume weight lifting. |
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I will probably regret this, but...
Before/After pics January 2008 - 267 lbs. Since I had no idea I was really starting on a path to success, I did not take any real "before" pics, but here are some random pics that show me at, or near that weight. I had been living at that weight, give or take about 5 pounds, for many years. One pic shows part of my face to show how bloated I was. I have no shirtless pics from before, but take my word, I was a whale. July 2008 - 190 lbs. Included part of my face in one shot to try to show that my face is not bloated anymore. Last pic is wearing shorts that fit me back in January. Pic with sucked-in abdomen is to prove I wasn't holding it in in the other shots. Now I need to start getting back to the weight lifting, but I herniated a disk in April and my doctor has forbidden my to lift anything. I am about to start ignoring him, as I cannot stand my physique right now. My biceps took a real beating from the severe dieting I did. What's there is rock-solid, but the mass is way, way down, and my triceps are almost nonexistent now. I also need to work my abs and legs. Overall, not many stretch marks and very little loose skin, thanks to plenty of exercise. I know I'm not going to win any modeling or bodybuilding prizes, but I feel great physically and feel great about myself psychologically. Well, here goes... click. |
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NOT a good idea. I was out of the gym 2 years due to 2 HD's back when I was 26. It woulda been LESS than 2 years except I IGNORED MY DOC. Now, I'm bouncing back from a torn rotator cuff. Haven't lifted anything 'cept a martini glass since Sept. I FEEL you pain...but listen to the doc! |
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What eventually happened to permit you to resume lifting? |
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Yup, my trainer did the same. |
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Had to heal...but alot of stuff I did routinely was either totally removed/slowly introduced back. No more sled, lunges were shelved until I brought my hip flexers up to par (with leg raises)--lowered the weight on all. Did alot of ab work to take the strain OFF my back. I got back into shape and stayed healthy for years. Now I'm sidelined with a shoulder injury that won't quit. Started back today and it's complaining. I *had* nice delts <<sigh>> |
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