Posted: 11/9/2009 2:28:43 PM EDT
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Ok so I recently just started building an ar15.. I already made my first mistake by getting a telescoping stock.. I think I can fix that though and make it so it's not adjustable.
Now before I make the next mistake, am I right in thinking I can not purchase a threaded barrel and add my own muzzle break? I have read over the laws recently and it's a little hard for me to understand. Just as I was mistaken in thinking the stock was ok as long as I didn't add a second banned item... Didn't realize the pistol grip counted as one. I just want to make sure before I finish this thing that it's legal to take to the range. Thanks for any help. |
| as far as the collapse-able stock goes, put it to the position you want and pin it in place. you want to pin it in the rib of the receiver extension [ IE; buffer tube] where the position holes are. just drill through the stock into the rib on one side, but don't go all the way through to the other side. you want to make it so the pin can only go in one way and once it's installed you can't remove it. remember, don't put the stock on the lower before you pin it, cause you will be over the feature count and in possession of an assault weapon. you can buy a threaded barrel , but what you have to do is install a muzzle brake of your choice and have it pinned and welded in place but it has to be a muzzle brake not a flash hider. once you pin and weld the muzzle brake in place it basically becomes part of the barrel and is now legal in ct. also either the barrel or combination barrel /pinned muzzle brake must be 16 inches or longer, if it's shorter than 16in you will have an unregistered short barrel rifle. on a post ban AR15, you have the removable magazine which is the qualifier, after that you can have only one more feature, which on the AR15 end's up being the pistol grip, anything more than that and you have a illegal assault weapon. now on something like the mini 14 you have the detachable magazine but no pistol grip [ that protrudes conspicuously beneath the action of the weapon] so in that case you could have a threaded barrel and flash hider and not have to pin and weld it, because the threaded barrel and flash hider count as one feature. so basically if it has a detachable magazine it can only have one "evil" feature. also read the tacked pre ban thread at the top of the page it has alot of good info. |
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that really cleared it up for me.. thank you very much!!!
my plan for the stock is exactly what you stated. I'll just pin it in place... as for the muzzle brake, can I still get a flash hider as long as it's pinned to the barrel? Or it HAS to be a muzzle break no matter what? edit: nvmd... think I figured it out by reading the other thread... no flash suppressor.. man, CT sucks..lol... Shoulda read a little more into before starting the build. No biggie though, I didn't order a barrel yet so atleast now I know what I need to get I think... Is a flash hider and flash suppressor the same thing? |
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So a threaded barell is one of the evil features? So a threaded 10-22 would be ok. What about threaded on a pre-ban? With a Pre-Ban, the threaded barrel along with a bayo lug is legal. So is a flash suppressor and a collapsible stock. On a any rifle without a pistol grip and with a detachable magazine, a threaded barrel would be legal with one other evil feature like a collapsible stock, bayonet lug or a flash suppressor. Below is the actual law on what you can have and what you cannot. Where we run into the problems is that any rifle that accepts a detachable magazine and which has a pistol grip and has a threaded barrel for a flash suppressor is already at its feature limit (of two evil features). Which is why post ban AR's are limited to fixed stocks, no bayo lugs, and muzzle breaks for the most part. There are muzzle breaks that one can buy that look (and some say perform better) like flash hiders. Link (3) Any semiautomatic firearm not listed in subdivision (1) of this subsection that meets the following criteria: (A) A semiautomatic rifle that has an ability to accept a detachable magazine and has at least two of the following: (i) A folding or telescoping stock; (ii) A pistol grip that protrudes conspicuously beneath the action of the weapon; (iii) A bayonet mount; (iv) A flash suppressor or threaded barrel designed to accommodate a flash suppressor; and (v) A grenade launcher; |
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So a threaded barell is one of the evil features? So a threaded 10-22 would be ok. What about threaded on a pre-ban? yes, a threaded barrel and flash hider together count as one feature. basically, if your weapon has a detachable magazine you can only add ONE more "evil" feature NOT TWO, two features put's you past the feature count and makes it an illegal assault weapon. if you have a weapon with a detachable mag and a pistol grip and a collapseable stock you now have an illegal assault weapon, as far as the 10-22 goes as long as it's a 10-22 with a traditional wood stock then a combination threaded barrel/flash hider would be good to go. but remember if you add another feature after that to the weapon you now have an illegal assault weapon. as far as pre bans go, you can add all the "evil" features you want. flash hider,bayonet lug, collapseable stock,all good to go on pre bans. |
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Is a flash hider and flash suppressor the same thing? yes they are the same thing. if you look around, they have a muzzle brake that look's exactly like an A-2 bird cage flash hider but is only considered a muzzle brake., that's if your going for the standard millitary look. |