[ARCHIVED THREAD] - AK Build Party (Page 1 of 2)
Posted: 1/3/2007 3:40:52 PM EDT
| We NEED to have another one of these. I would host it, but I have none of the equipment. I have 2 parts kits, one dis-assembled, and one not, several flats and several compliance parts. |
I'd personaly go with a flat if I was building a romy, I've seen a lot of kits that have canted RSB, GB, FST, only a couple of kits were nearly perfect, and for those I'd build on a nodakspud economy 100% reciever ($50) if I didn't want to put the time required in building on a flat, then I'd shop around for the best deals on compliance parts, they're what kills most of your savings on doing a build, they'll run you from $50 to $75 depending on where you buy. |
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I have some simple portable tool/jigs for knocking out barrel pins and barrels, as well as jigs and tools for riveting, etc (nothing but muscle power required for all of it) I'd be willing to bring it to a build party, so people could get the hard parts finished real quick. (like riveting the trigger guard and front trunion) It's a snap if you are using those flats with rivet holes. I don't have any flat bending jigs though. (but I do have three flats that need bent) we'll need a spot welder. anybody seen that getto car battery spotwelder on www.gunco.net? 
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Patricia....dont be a puss...call in sick. If yer boss says "you dont sound sick" tell him "i'm f*ckin my damn sister, is that sick enough for ya?" Tellem that and they wont let you come to work "f*ckin yer damn sister, you keep yer sick ass at the house!" On a seious note, me n my old man still need to get our built. Yeah I know I'm slow but I cant help it, my legs are short. And Pat, my old man says thanks for the great remarks you left on his ebay store.  |
DOH! I never thought about that...in the equipement exchange area....DUH! I'll talk to him about it. Thanks for the idea Patsy. 
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we haven't yet........ Who all would be in??? Me, Danc, Nden.....who else? |
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Im up for this but I'll have a hard time getting my press moved Someone else will have to supply the press. I have a barrel press kit, rivet/bolt cutters, that work very well a trigger guard rivet jig and many other small tools that help in building. The only thing I dont have is a way to reach the lower rivet on an underfolder. I cant make it during the week. It will have to be a weekend project for me.  If a member want to use my tools I would be willing to loan them out if this happens and I cant make it.
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You will need a kit, rivets, a drill bit index and compliance parts(a fire control group, receiver or flat, US made slant brake, gas piston or a US made p-grip) that is if you want to remain legal. If everyone else brings tools that should do it. |
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You need to get a demilled AK kit - Romanians are the cheapest., a receiver (factory or bend your own), and compliant parts. Usually a receiver, trigger set, pistol grip, and muzzle device - all US made. Upwards from $165 to $375, depending on the kit you buy and the parts you use. From the kit, you'll need to disassemble the trunnion from the barrel (the hardest job of building one). You have to push out a pin holding the trunnion to the barrel, then push out the barrel. The trunnion is a solid piece of steel that is riveted to the sheet metal receiver. Depending on your rear stock - folder or wood, you have to take rivets out of the rear stock attachment point. That is generally drill them out or punch them out after a little grinding to flatten the heads. The front trunnion barrel rivets are easy to take out. Then you fit everything to the receiver, after riveting the front trunnion, trigger guard/mag latch, and stock attachment point to the receiver. That includes putting and pinning in the barrel, fitting the bot carrier and bolt to the receiver rails. Bending your own receiver is cheaper but requires a lot more work like welding in the rails and heat treating. Not all that hard but just time consuming. A commercial receiver will run from $50 to $75. A flat is $20 or less. I built one AMD pistol on a flat I built. I'm going to disassemble the kit and turn it into a carbine on another receiver. Got to use a new receiver to make it legal! I've helped several guys assemble theirs. Ndenway has done the same. You need help, just get hold of me or Ndenway. I'll say Ndenway has kept up on part and kit prices better than I have though! 
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as far as I know its open to whom ever shows up, I don't think anyone would be unwelcome, unless of course they can't take a joke, or are otherwise unfunny ;nah man, these build parties are a chance for all HT members to meet, they're almost as fun as a shoot, and you get to drink booze at these (in moderation of course, you don't want to be making an ass of yourself in someones else home), once you've built one, then you've built all AKs, theres not much to building them, I'm kinda surprised more people arn't building them, even more surprised that they'd pay ungodly amounts of money to someone else to build one for them, hell I built my first one with a screwdriver, hammer and monkey wrench, didn't even have any of the specialty tools, and the AK looks it, but it runs like a champ, my later builds look damn good though, I finaly built some tooling to do them right. |
no need to know how to weld, the spot welder will do all the work for you, as for a build date, I have no idea, whenever most everyone can make it to one. |
Posi, the trigger set is a hammer, trigger, disconnect. The receiver, pistol grip, and muzzle device all count if made in the US. That is the required 6 US made parts. You can also use a gas piston, butt stock, or forearm if made in the US. The US trigger set, pistol grip, and muzzle brake, will run around $50 from Brownells if you have an account. The receiver will cost $50 to $75 if you buy one, around $20 if you bend one from a flat. The kit costs from $100 to $500, depending on what you build from. Then a can of paint to finish it will run $3 to $9 for Alumahyde II which is equivalent to DuraCoat. Here's some of the ones I built. I gave one to my sister, 2 to my son, sold one to a good friend, and then built a couple more after that. The wooden stock one is built from a flat I bent into a receiver. I have less then $175 in it. The others around $200. But that was the summer before last, a year and a half ago. Two of 'em are pistols that have been shot quite a bit. They are the most fun for blasting. At the JTAC shoot last April, several of the members here shot it. With the single point sling I bought from Jason at the shoot, they can be fairly accurate when braced off your shoulder with the nylon. I even loaned one to some CLEET instructors teaching SWAT classes. One of 'em drove around with the thing loaded in his squad car for a month until I had to go get it back!  
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yeah man thats more like it, also look at copesdist.com, I think copes has more stuff on hand and cheaper S&H than DPH, but hell their both good vendors to deal with, whatever kit you get make sure its a matching numbered kit, if you want to build on a flat, copes got an econo flat that is very good for $10, I think both have rivet/center support kits for $9 and most compliance kits, which will usally be the fcg, pistol grip and either a gas pistion or flash suppressor will run from $35 to $75 depending on where you shop, I don't usally mess with the gas piston, they're like $17 and pain in the ass to change out, I'm not an AK pureist so I just change out the pistol grip to a US made one. |
hell man, go ahead and save up your money, don't worry if you miss this party, they'll always be others on down the line, most of us that have build tools will still have them in the future, or at least I will I know for sure, I don't ever get rid of tools once I buy them. |
hey you got any piglets for sale? been looking around here and hadn't found any cheap enough, hell everybodies wanting way too much for them this year. as for the build parties they are few and far between, but I've got build tools and can help anyone out at any time as long as our schedules will jive, so don't worry about setting on a kit and not being able to build it, because it can be done with a bit of planning ahead. |
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That's two hours, starting from a demilled kit with the receiver stubs still attached, using a receiver with NO predrilled rivet holes, taking my time, sipping wine, measuring with calipers (instead of using another trunion for a drill jig), more wine, tunning the rails, more wine, were was I? Oh yea, more wine.... and umm..... oh yea, test fire...  if the trunions are prepped and the barrel knocked out, and using a predrilled receiver... pfft...  20 minutes? |
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I'm definatley interested. I had planned on buying a couple more Aks but building them seems a much better idea. Does the G2 trigger that Copes kits come with count as compliant parts? If so how many? After looking around a little I believe that I'd still need 2 parts probably slant brake and pistol grip. |
usally wed-thurs-fri but I got in state training that week and an appointment to see the ear doc fri 23rd. last week in feb. and the first week in march my scheduled changes to sun-mon-tues. |