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Posted: 3/19/2018 4:32:50 PM EDT

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Does anyone know if czechpoint-usa has plans of selling the Vz61 upper with the underslung rail? I have always felt this gun needed a vert grip and would love to SBR one with a spressor.

Posted: 3/19/2018 5:02:44 PM EDT

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I believe they have compete guns on the site for 380 and mak, but I don't think they have them with rail AND threaded barrel.

Edit: oops, I see you said upper.

Posted: 3/19/2018 11:54:23 PM EDT

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Those that sbr'd theirs, where did you have it engraved on the frame?

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This please

Posted: 3/20/2018 1:18:58 PM EDT

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Posted: 3/20/2018 3:58:50 PM EDT

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There is a guy on GB selling lanyards for $5/each, but his shipping rate kind of... Sucks. $5/up to 7.

The dude also has a great deal on a holster set if anyone needs the original equipment.

Posted: 3/20/2018 8:37:46 PM EDT

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He just did mine. Came back today

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What threading was done on your VZ61? 7/16 or 1/2'? Morgan did mine in 7/16 in the fall, but I still haven't had anything mounted to it yet.

Posted: 3/20/2018 8:39:09 PM EDT

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I did mine on the right side just below the importers info.

Posted: 3/20/2018 9:07:44 PM EDT

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What threading was done on your VZ61? 7/16 or 1/2'? Morgan did mine in 7/16 in the fall, but I still haven't had anything mounted to it yet.

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1/2x28. It was .530"

Posted: 3/20/2018 11:52:25 PM EDT

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1/2x28. It was .530"

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What caliber?

I've got..."several" 7.65 uppers in front of me and they are all .470 +/- 0.03. My aftermarket barrel is .480.

Posted: 3/21/2018 9:16:18 AM EDT

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What caliber?

I've got..."several" 7.65 uppers in front of me and they are all .470 +/- 0.03. My aftermarket barrel is .480.

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9x18mak

Posted: 3/21/2018 3:08:34 PM EDT

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What's required for caliber conversions? For .22 I assume upper and bolt. How about 9x18mak? Does it use the same lower?

Posted: 3/21/2018 6:16:48 PM EDT

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What's required for caliber conversions? For .22 I assume upper and bolt. How about 9x18mak? Does it use the same lower?

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Their site says that the mak and 380 uppers share the same lower, but are not compatible with the .32acp lowers.

Posted: 3/22/2018 2:36:59 PM EDT

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Just thinking out loud, but if anyone ever wants to trade their .380 gun for a 7.65, let me know.

Posted: 3/22/2018 10:38:15 PM EDT

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Got tracking info. Monday it'll be at my dealer.

Posted: 3/23/2018 7:33:05 AM EDT

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Nice. Which did you go with again?

Posted: 3/23/2018 7:42:57 AM EDT

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Threaded 7.65. I've wanted one ever since they've come out, just had too many things on the list. Once the released them with threaded barrels it moved to the top.

Posted: 3/26/2018 2:55:47 PM EDT

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That's cool.

I'm still waiting on my silencer adapter. I'm starting to think I should have just ordered the Schreyer can for the factory barrel. I'm sure I could sell my threaded upper and cover more than half the cost.

Posted: 3/26/2018 3:28:54 PM EDT

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That's cool.

I'm still waiting on my silencer adapter. I'm starting to think I should have just ordered the Schreyer can for the factory barrel. I'm sure I could sell my threaded upper and cover more than half the cost.

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I would like to have once just cause I think it looks more authentic. Just don't know much about Schreyer to know the quality of their cans.

Posted: 3/26/2018 7:41:00 PM EDT

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That's my concern as well. The fact that they have basically zero info about it online isn't inspiring either.

Posted: 3/26/2018 11:33:19 PM EDT

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It would be cool if we could get the locking mechanism and do F1 cans

Posted: 3/27/2018 6:44:42 AM EDT

[#21]

Picked it up from the dealer last night. I'm pretty impressed with it. I need to get a correct grip and ditch the black though. I'm surprised at how well it handles without the stock. I expected it to feel more clunky and unbalanced. Even with my .45 Osprey mounted it wasn't too bad. I'll get some pics up after work today.

Posted: 3/27/2018 9:01:09 AM EDT

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Posted: 4/1/2018 1:03:36 AM EDT

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Got out and shot today. This thing is awesome. Rounds I was shooting were flat nosed and only worked in one mag. The other mags the flat would hit the front of the mag and not feed. Will have to stick with ball round nose.

Posted: 4/1/2018 5:13:09 AM EDT

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Nice! How did it perform with the osprey?

Posted: 4/1/2018 8:43:12 AM EDT

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Stupid quiet. I'm impressed at how nice it shoots as just a pistol. Not clunky as I expected. I'll be sending in the SBR paperwork next week.

Posted: 4/1/2018 5:10:59 PM EDT

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Glad to hear it's performing as expected. Literally had one of these on my "to get.....one day" list forever, looks like soon wont have any excuses not to get... maybe even in satin nickel for s&g

Posted: 4/1/2018 8:15:06 PM EDT

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Do yourself a favor and only shoot Sellier and Bellot, Prvi, or Geco from it. You will basically never have a problem with it.

Posted: 4/1/2018 8:40:28 PM EDT

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What threading was done on your VZ61? 7/16 or 1/2'? Morgan did mine in 7/16 in the fall, but I still haven't had anything mounted to it yet.

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He just did mine. Came back today

https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/184182/IMG_8809-484667.JPG

What threading was done on your VZ61? 7/16 or 1/2'? Morgan did mine in 7/16 in the fall, but I still haven't had anything mounted to it yet.

Who did this and what is the thread?

Posted: 4/1/2018 10:23:10 PM EDT

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What caliber?

I've got..."several" 7.65 uppers in front of me and they are all .470 +/- 0.03. My aftermarket barrel is .480.

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+/- .030 is crazy talk! That is 0.75mm

But a .470 barrel would be perfect for a M12 x 1 thread since 12 mm would be .4724" nominal.

Posted: 4/2/2018 12:04:30 PM EDT

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+/- .030 is crazy talk! That is 0.75mm

But a .470 barrel would be perfect for a M12 x 1 thread since 12 mm would be .4724" nominal.

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Oops. I think I meant .003

Posted: 4/2/2018 12:53:20 PM EDT

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This thread is the reason i have been stocking up on Sellor and bellot 73gr 32acp ammo! Found a local shop that carries it regularly and cheaply.

Posted: 4/2/2018 12:55:23 PM EDT

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Consider yourself lucky. All the shops/shows near me seem to think it's 73gr of copper plated gold, propelled by unicorn dust.

Posted: 4/3/2018 8:56:54 PM EDT

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How much are they charging per box?

Posted: 4/3/2018 11:49:17 PM EDT

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He just did mine. Came back today

https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/184182/IMG_8809-484667.JPG

What threading was done on your VZ61? 7/16 or 1/2'? Morgan did mine in 7/16 in the fall, but I still haven't had anything mounted to it yet.

Who did this and what is the thread?

Morgan at Class 3 Machining also did mine, but in 7/16-28. He is here on the forum and many have used him. I have one of the normal ~.470 diameter barrels so not enough meat for 1/2” threading job.

I sent him my VZ61 upper, Remy 700 barreled action and a Scorpion Evo barrel for a K chop and thread. My package was received at 3-4pm. The next day at 10AM I had a tracking number for my finished parts. Total time away from me was 8 days shipping to Michigan to Texas back to Michigan.

I haven’t attached my can yet because I’m stilll searching for someone to make some a custom three lug mount threaded in 7/16-28.

Posted: 4/3/2018 11:51:47 PM EDT

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Do yourself a favor and only shoot Sellier and Bellot, Prvi, or Geco from it. You will basically never have a problem with it.

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No love for the Fiocchi 73 gr? It runs 100% in my 32 acp guns.

Posted: 4/3/2018 11:53:09 PM EDT

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Morgan at Class 3 Machining also did mine, but in 7/16-28. He is here on the forum and many have used him. I have one of the normal ~.470 diameter barrels so not enough meat for 1/2” threading job.

I sent him my VZ61 upper, Remy 700 barreled action and a Scorpion Evo barrel for a K chop and thread. My package was received at 3-4pm. The next day at 10AM I had a tracking number for my finished parts. Total time away from me was 8 days shipping to Michigan to Texas back to Michigan.

I haven’t attached my can yet because I’m stilll searching for someone to make some a custom three lug mount threaded in 7/16-28.

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Posted: 4/4/2018 12:09:34 AM EDT

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How much are they charging per box?

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It seems to run about the same as 45acp at my local range. Something like $22, iirc. I just buy it online.

Posted: 4/4/2018 12:10:33 AM EDT

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No love for the Fiocchi 73 gr? It runs 100% in my 32 acp guns.

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This is pretty much all I run. I have nothing against the S&B, but the Fiocchi seems to usually be cheaper.

Posted: 4/4/2018 2:02:30 PM EDT

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Morgan at Class 3 Machining also did mine, but in 7/16-28. He is here on the forum and many have used him. I have one of the normal ~.470 diameter barrels so not enough meat for 1/2” threading job.

I sent him my VZ61 upper, Remy 700 barreled action and a Scorpion Evo barrel for a K chop and thread. My package was received at 3-4pm. The next day at 10AM I had a tracking number for my finished parts. Total time away from me was 8 days shipping to Michigan to Texas back to Michigan.

I haven’t attached my can yet because I’m stilll searching for someone to make some a custom three lug mount threaded in 7/16-28.

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Guys lookup HB Guns on Facebook, or website.

Owner is named Brian, I have been friends with him for many years.

He figured out how to modify a 3 lug for that 7/16 or similar thread.

He can point you in the right direction.

Posted: 4/4/2018 3:06:44 PM EDT

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Holy cow. My silencerco adapter finally showed up. I think I placed the order 6 weeks ago. Pics tonight!

Posted: 4/4/2018 4:35:12 PM EDT

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Woohoo

Posted: 4/4/2018 11:31:38 PM EDT

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Holy crap are these things quiet! I also shot my 22lr '61 with a Spectre II on it and I really don't think the .32 was any louder...

I still want to order a Schreyer can. If anything, I just want one even more now. The fat knurled end would make a nice handgrip. I'm working on something big that would go well with that original can.

Posted: 4/5/2018 12:38:13 AM EDT

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Damn, those lay offs must be hurting. SiCo used to be really fast.

Posted: 4/5/2018 11:31:47 AM EDT

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Guys lookup HB Guns on Facebook, or website.

Owner is named Brian, I have been friends with him for many years.

He figured out how to modify a 3 lug for that 7/16 or similar thread.

He can point you in the right direction.

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Morgan at Class 3 Machining also did mine, but in 7/16-28. He is here on the forum and many have used him. I have one of the normal ~.470 diameter barrels so not enough meat for 1/2” threading job.

I sent him my VZ61 upper, Remy 700 barreled action and a Scorpion Evo barrel for a K chop and thread. My package was received at 3-4pm. The next day at 10AM I had a tracking number for my finished parts. Total time away from me was 8 days shipping to Michigan to Texas back to Michigan.

I haven’t attached my can yet because I’m stilll searching for someone to make some a custom three lug mount threaded in 7/16-28.

Guys lookup HB Guns on Facebook, or website.

Owner is named Brian, I have been friends with him for many years.

He figured out how to modify a 3 lug for that 7/16 or similar thread.

He can point you in the right direction.

Brian’s source of 3lugs won’t be making any, and Brian’s is a one-off.
Morgan, you’re our only hope. ;)
Price to internally thread a customer supplied 3lug, after boring out the factory 1/2x28 threads? It gets smaller after those threads.

Posted: 4/6/2018 11:37:45 AM EDT

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Brian’s source of 3lugs won’t be making any, and Brian’s is a one-off.
Morgan, you’re our only hope. ;)
Price to internally thread a customer supplied 3lug, after boring out the factory 1/2x28 threads? It gets smaller after those threads.

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Heading to my land for a shoot this weekend, will give it some thought bud and will text Brian. Shouldnt be too big of a job.

Posted: 4/6/2018 1:14:42 PM EDT

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Looks like Atlantic has the threaded .32 ACP with brace for $715.00. That would be $775.00 at Czech Point. The OG pricing on the brace at CP must have been a promo.

Posted: 4/6/2018 2:52:12 PM EDT

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Brian’s source of 3lugs won’t be making any, and Brian’s is a one-off.
Morgan, you’re our only hope. ;)
Price to internally thread a customer supplied 3lug, after boring out the factory 1/2x28 threads? It gets smaller after those threads.

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*whisper*~~~~ buy the Schreyer can~~~ *whisper*