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Posted: 8/10/2011 5:34:14 PM EDT
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Recently got a new Dillon xl 650. After set up, I loaded forty 45acp and took to the range to see how they shot. They did great! Decided to try and load a few hundred tonight and the machine keeps doing crazy stuff! I didnt change anything after that first batch. Now, some of the Hornady 230gr XTP tips are being pressed down until it looks like a star...also sometimes it doesnt look like i get enough bell on some of the cases(a few have had way too much). My oal is varying between 1.233 and 1.225! WTF ? I havent fiddled with anything. Oh yea, is the lock link supposed to wear into the powder measure bellcrank?
ANY help would be great....I dont think Dillon is open this late or i would call them. 
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if your components: brass, projectiles, are consistent, then your machine isn't. Taking a wild guess here, is your seating stem in the seating die loose? Only thing that comes to mind at the moment. If not the stem, then the lock rings for your dies. Maybe they're wobbling all over the place. Or the shell plate is too loose. |
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Quoted: Oh yea, is the lock link supposed to wear into the powder measure bellcrank? Well things that rub together will wear, I guess that means they're supposed to. But on a new machine, even a decades old machine, not enough ever to cause the problems you're describing |
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There are different inserts for seating bullets. You may be using the wrong one. When you move the lever, move it all the way down, and then all the way back to the top, smooth, firm, consistent. Nothing is supposed to be rubbing and wearing, perhaps your powder measure is turned to the wrong position. Post a picture if you can. You don't need much bell, unless you are loading lead bullets. There is a locking screw that holds a center bolt into your shell plate. Make sure the shell plate isn't too loose by adjusting the bolt in the center if necessary. Watch this youtube video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zm8JLmflvrw Take a deep breath and call Dillon in the morning 800-223-4570 |
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Thanks guys...went back down in the basement and looked at it again, i adjusted powder funnel to give more bell and that stopped the bullet nose crushing problem. I dont know how the hell it lost the adjustment i had on it..It worked fine for the first 20rnds then it really flared out 3 cases then went to basicaly no bell. The last 100 i did tonight look just right.
One other question though, Im useing RCBS dies that i had before i got the 650. Do ya think that may be making my oal vary by 3 to5 thousanths? now its running 1.227 to 1.233. Ive always been more precise with my single stage press. Ya think this is enough to worry about? I will call Dillon and order their dies tomorrow just to rule it out. |
I have a hard time with that video, its a pretty good video right up to the point that he chambers a live round in a 1911 to check function.  I've been involved in teaching firearms safety for a very long time, and quite frankly that is an accident waiting to happen, its extremely careless to be doing something like that in your home. Take the barrel out to check for fit, or get a case gauge! Do I ever chamber a round in a pistol at home? You bet I do, but I don't do it when it doesn't have to be done, and I've got a 5 gal bucket full of sand to catch it should it happen to go off. I have had an auto pistol go off when I chambered a round, I had a pistol that was on safe discharge when I chambered a round from the magazine, the pistol malfunctioned, the hammer fell and the weirdest thing is that when the hammer fell the safety popped off all by itself, I was never able to duplicate that happening, but it happened once, and that was one too many. I didn't have that bucket of sand when that happened, but that incident caused me to get it! |
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