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Posted: 11/27/2001 7:51:59 PM EDT
If you could only have a small collection of 10 pistols for the rest of your life, what would they be, and why? Just going through ideas on what to add to the collection.

Link Posted: 11/27/2001 8:08:41 PM EDT
Sorry, I need to disqualifly myself from this. I'm over the bag limit. I got 14.
Link Posted: 11/27/2001 8:26:49 PM EDT
ummmmm.......5HK's and 5 SIG's. 9mm, .40 and .45.
Link Posted: 11/27/2001 8:31:20 PM EDT
I am going to extend it to include Revolvers:
(1.) Les Baer 1911 in 45 Super (can also fire 45 ACP by changing the recoil spring).
(2.) Browning Hi Power MkIII in 40 S&W
(3.) Keltec P32
(4.) Colt 380
(5.) Ruger Vacquero in 45 Colt.
(6.) Colt Python (8 inch barrel, Blued)
(7.) Ruger SP101 (2 1/4" barrel, bobbed hammer).
(8.) Ruger Bisley - rechambered in 475 Linebaugh
(9.) Dan Wesson 445 Super Mag Siloutte Revolver.
(10.) Thompson Contender.
Link Posted: 11/27/2001 8:54:13 PM EDT
Hahaha, how bout 1?

HK USP .45, that's all i got. Why? It works, won't jam, and most likely won't ever break considering .45's are $12+/box and I'm usually broke!
Link Posted: 11/27/2001 9:22:50 PM EDT
1. Sig P226
2. Sig P229
3. Sig P229
4. Sig P225
5. Ruger MkII
6. Smith & Wesson 617
7. Smith & Wesson Model 60
8. Beretta 92FS or Brigader 96
9. Colt 1911
10. Colt King Cobra
Link Posted: 11/27/2001 9:47:13 PM EDT
There ought to be a USP 45 Tactical model in there somewhere.
Link Posted: 11/27/2001 10:06:35 PM EDT
S&W 686 should be in there too. Won't jam and a FTF won't stop the action. Not to mention .357 Magnum doesn't stop for much.
Link Posted: 11/28/2001 7:03:48 PM EDT
OK, here goes...
1911 45
Gold Cup 45
SW 625 45acp
python
SW 66 snub
Speed Six Ruger snub
HK P7 M8
Glock 26
Diamondback 22
SW 9mm hammerless revolver (mod. ?)
Yeah, I could live with these.
Stay Safe
Link Posted: 11/28/2001 7:09:33 PM EDT
Colt 1911 .45
Ruger Mark II .22
Python
HK USP .45 Tactical.
Glock 17
S&W Bodyguard .38
HK USP .40 compact.
Browning HiPower 9mm

That'll do.

Link Posted: 11/28/2001 7:11:18 PM EDT
- Not surprised that HKs and Sigs made such a strong showing.
- Surprised the HK P7 made it so late.
- Surprised at the weak Glock showing.
- Surprised there aren't more 1911s listed.
- Glad to see the KelTec
- Glad BostonTerrier extended it to wheel guns (my oversight).

Any others lists?
Link Posted: 11/28/2001 7:28:36 PM EDT
Military arms always have good parts availability,collectability, resale value etc.With that in mind...

Pair of Colt 1911 .45ACP 6 8rnds
Pair of Berretta model 92 6 hicaps left and right holster
SOCOM HK MK23 Blackhawk thigh rig w/suppressor
MiniGlock ankle rig
Strayer Voight widebody 1911 3 hicaps heavily modified
Remington XP100 .223 4x Leupold
Ruger MkII .22lr 6" heavy target barrel w/slide on suppressor
Desert Eagle .50 AE 3 8 rnd mags

Link Posted: 11/28/2001 7:39:02 PM EDT
1) Colt M1911-A1
2) Beretta M92FS
3) Sig Sauer P226
4) Glock 18C
5) That 5.7mm Pistol made by the same people as the P90.
6) .454 Cassul Revolver

I am going to expand this to include SB Submachineguns.

7) IMI Uzi Pistol
8) H&K MP-5-PDW
9) H&K UMP-10mm
10) AR Pistol with 7.5" Barrel (9mm)
Link Posted: 11/28/2001 7:56:12 PM EDT
Ok...I'll take a stab, with the disclaimer that my answer may change tomorrow! The parentheses are WHY, as requested by the poster of the thread.

1) Larry Vickers Special Springfield 1911 in .45acp (simply the best)
2) Les Baer ThunderRanch Special Presentation Model (hey, this is fantasy...so I'll add the $3,000 fancy engraving)
3) Pre World War II German Luger 9mm Navy model (the most beautiful killing machine ever designed)
4) Any of Bob Munden's Colt revolvers in .45LC (he is the finest single-action revolver gunsmith around)
5) Ruger .454 Casull (that is one bad MF)
6) Desert Eagle Super .50 Magnum (also a bad, bad mutha)
7) H&K USP Expert .45acp (not only an H&K, but an extremely accurate one too...in my favorite defense caliber)
8) Sig Sauer P210 9mm (very classic, accurate, sexy, and expensive 9mm)
9) Ed Brown 1911 .22 conversion (hell, I don't even know if he makes one, but that would be one fine .22 plinker in my favorite style...the 1911)
10) Smith and Wesson Model 19-3 blued with 2.25" barrel (quite possibly my favorite double-action revolver, and I don't even own one in blued condition!!! Still looking for a good one...)

BONUS TRACK 11) Any handgun given to me free.
Link Posted: 11/29/2001 9:43:34 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 11/29/2001 9:45:17 AM EDT by ken_mays]
1. Burns "Best Grade" 1911, set up for .45 Super -
Shoots .45 ACP as well, and if you're gonna have a 1911 it may as well be one of the best.

2. Glock 22 with additional G17 barrel and mags - a rugged general purpose gun that can be converted to fire either common round

3. S&W 686+ - for .38 Spl as well, with target length barrel and scope mount

4. S&W .44 Mag - for .44 Spl as well, configured as above

5. Ruger Bisley in .45 Colt - because they make a gorgeous SA revolver, and .45 Colt is cool

6. Ruger Single Six with both .22LR and .22WMR cylinders - to shoot all kinds of .22

7. S&W Airweight .38 +P - for CCW

8. Browning HP - because it's a classic

9. Desert Eagle in .50AE - in case I'm attacked by small-block Chevy engines

10. SIG P220 - not a big fan of SIGs but it'd be nice to have one.

I was going to say a Savage Striker or Remington XP100 in .308, or maybe a Professional Ordnance AR pistol, but those aren't *really* pistols.
Link Posted: 11/29/2001 10:13:57 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 11/29/2001 10:09:56 AM EDT by sigman]
Originally Posted By ken_mays:
[quote 9. Desert Eagle in .50AE - in case I'm attacked by small-block Chevy engines
quote]


Thats about all that chevy small blocks are
good for.

1)SIG P226-BEST 9mm double action ever made
2)SIG P220-BEST .45 double action ever made
3)H&K USP .45-On par with P220
4)IMI Desert Eagle .357 or .44mag- if anyone
ever actually shot a .50AE they would probaly
agree.
5) 1911,debating between Colt,Kimber,and SA
6)Colt Anaconda .44-way cool
7)Walther P.22- coolest new .22 out there
8)-------
9)-------
10)------Not decided
Link Posted: 11/29/2001 11:57:49 AM EDT
Its my opinion that everyone should have AT LEAST 1 HK, 1 SIG, and 1 quality 1911 style pistol in their top 10 list.
Link Posted: 11/29/2001 12:56:28 PM EDT

Originally Posted By AILapua:

Originally Posted By sigman:
IMI Desert Eagle .357 or .44mag- if anyone
ever actually shot a .50AE they would probably
agree.



No flame but, I disagree. I very much enjoy my XIX Eagle in .50AE.

Ai



No flame taken.Don't get me wrong,I would'nt
pass up on shooting a .50AE Desert Eagle,as
long as you bought the ammo!

Actually I was hoping to get flamed on my
blashpemy of chezzies!

Everyone must know who is first on race day!
Link Posted: 11/29/2001 1:45:21 PM EDT

Originally Posted By sigman:
Everyone must know who is first on race day!



First what? to arrive at the track early in order to swap out the car's motor that somehow blew up while it was riding down there on the trailer?

It takes Chevy power to haul a Ford racecar and it's 9 spare motors!
Link Posted: 11/29/2001 3:19:18 PM EDT
1911s chambered for .45ACP to the tenth power.

Eddie
Link Posted: 11/29/2001 4:08:24 PM EDT
1. Kimber Classic Stainless 1911 .45.
2. Glock 27 .40.
3. Sig P245 .45.
4. Browning High Power 9mm.
5. Ruger .22/45.
6. Kel-Tec P32.
7. S&W 629.
8. Colt Python .357.
9. Glock 21 .45.
10. Glock 19 9mm.
Link Posted: 11/29/2001 4:20:49 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 11/29/2001 4:20:18 PM EDT by CHUCK6419]
Seeing as how our stupid laws don't allow me to carry/buy a handgun yet... I can't really start a collection yet.

but here is what I would want if the constitution actaully applied to 20 year olds.
1) Glock 23
2) STI 1911 TROJAN
3) Walther p99
4) Walther p22
5) HK USP Tactical
6) HK USP Compact .40
7) Walther PPK
8) Glock 18c
9) Glock 19
10) Taurus .454 Casull

Darn! 10 is too dang small of a limit!!!!!!!
that would be the First Ten in the first Gun Safe!
The Following List would go in the second gun safe.

1) S&W Titanium .22WMR Revolver.(Mod#?)
2) Ruger Mark II 22/45
3) Browning Buckmark Feild 5.5" Heavy Barrel
4) Colt Gold Cup
5) Kimber Pro Carry
6) Savage striker in .260rem
7) Springfield XD in .40s&w
8) Gaurdian 380
9) Kel_tec p-9
10) Khar p-9

Third safe will come up later

Link Posted: 11/29/2001 8:48:03 PM EDT
1.) Steyr SPP
2.) Calico Liberty III/M-950
3.) HK SP89
4.) HK SOCOM
5.) Walther P99
6.) Glock 19
7.) Glock ?? in .224boaz
8.) Steyr M series in .40
9.) HK USP match in .45acp
10.) Calico M-110/M-100p

Link Posted: 11/30/2001 4:28:43 AM EDT
10! I can name that list in 5!

45acp: 1911A1, stock model. Target models too tight for combat
9 MM: Beretta 92F (best ergonomics, best shooter imho)**fitted for silencer
22LR: Ruger MKII w/ Silenced Bull Barrel
32 ACP: Keltec P32 (for high concealability in suit or shorts
Any SAA copy in 357/38

That's it. I've got the major calibers covered for ammo availability. I've got size & concealability covered. I've got covert [silenced] 22LR.
I would have trouble deciding whether to strap on the 45 or the 9.. I like them both. The 45 is stronger close in, the 92 will make a long shot a little better. Decisions, decisions...If I'm late for the battle you'll know why. I just couldn't decide what to wear.

ps: Now try to limit yourself to only 30 holsters for those 10 pistols!
Link Posted: 11/30/2001 5:55:11 AM EDT
Is this a gun collection or pieces you actually shoot and are good with? I shoot around 10,000 pistol rounds per year. I don't believe you can divide that total into 10 different pistols and be proficient with each. Pick a pistol that works in a a major caliber. Practice with it until manipulation is second nature. Buy another just like it for a backup in case your number one gun breaks.

Maybe a smaller gun for a bug. But 10 pistols? This is not an "ultimate battery". It is a safe queen collection. It is a gee whiz look what I've got, gosh golly collection.

What is being accomplished here, besides keeping gun manufacturers happy? We don't need more weapons. We need more proficiency and training with the ones we own.

"Owning a gun doesn't make you a gunman any more than owning a guitar makes you a musician."
Jeff Cooper

Link Posted: 11/30/2001 6:49:50 AM EDT
I have a few handguns I bought ONLY because they are "neat" or "gee whiz"..(1892 ordinance revolver,or Nagant gas seal anyone?)

Anyhow, the "ten"
1- S&W "Triplelock" in .44 special
2- S&W 38/44 HD, preferably early production.
3- M-1905 Colt Browning in .45
4- M-1910 Colt Browning in .45
5- Mk VI Webley, Officers version.
6- Walther "AP" in 7.65 Luger.
7- Mauser 714, with stock/holster
8- Glock 18.
9- Stechkin APS.
and the last, which will surely bring all kinds of questions about my sanity..

10- "Papa" Nambu, with stock/holster and spares..

Meplat-
Link Posted: 11/30/2001 8:29:21 AM EDT
Not in any specific order...

1. Glock 17
2. Glock 18
3. Glock 19
4. Glock 20
5. Glock 21
6. Glock 22
7. Glock 23
8. Glock 26
9. Glock 30
10. Glock 36

You know, I seem to see a trend??? To bad you limited me to 10 as I can think of a few I missed but these would do!

LOL!
Link Posted: 11/30/2001 9:17:18 AM EDT
Ruger superblackhawk .44 7 1/2inch

Beretta 92fs brig

S&W 22a or ruger .22/45

S&W 586 .357 4inch

HK SOCOM (with silencer of course)

Savage striker in .308

glock 27

S&W centenial

That's all I could think of right now.

Link Posted: 11/30/2001 10:52:07 AM EDT

Originally Posted By BillD:
Is this a gun collection or pieces you actually shoot and are good with?

"Owning a gun doesn't make you a gunman any more than owning a guitar makes you a musician."
Jeff Cooper



Maybe some of us don't want to be any good with a gun, we just want to collect them. If I had to limit myself to just one to "get good with" I don't think I'd be interested.
Link Posted: 11/30/2001 11:06:49 AM EDT

Originally Posted By AILapua:


Originally Posted By ken_mays:
Maybe some of us don't want to be any good with a gun, we just want to collect them.



Oook, whatever floats your boat.

Ai



Hey, let's face it... not all firearms enthusiasts necessarily want to be backyard commandos, "gunmen", or competition shooters. Not to disparage anyone who does, but assuming everyone has the same goals is probably not accurate.
Link Posted: 11/30/2001 11:21:03 AM EDT
In no particular order:

Glock 17
Glock 18 (if I could)
Glock 27
Glock 32
Heckler & Koch USP45 Tactical
Colt Anaconda 6"
Colt King Cobra 6"
Colt 1911-A1
Sig Sauer P220
Desert Eagle 50AE (just because...)

Link Posted: 11/30/2001 1:08:31 PM EDT
Hmmmm

1- HK MK23 SOCOM w/supressor
2- HK MK23 SOCOM w/supressor
3- HK MK23 SOCOM w/supressor
4- Beretta 92G
5- Beretta 92G
6- HK USP Tac
7- HK USP Tac
8- IMI Lone Eagle
9- Keltec P11
10- IMI Desert Eagle .50 AE

Sigman...to say that about chevy small blocks, you must be none other than a ford guy.

Ill put my 5.7L LT1 against your 5.0 or 4.6 for POS any day. Dont give a rats ass if its a cobra too.
Link Posted: 11/30/2001 1:36:01 PM EDT
1. Browning Buckmark 5.5 (Suppressed) .22LR
2. S & W 642 .38 Spl
3. Glock 23 .40 S&W
4. Caspian 1911 .45ACP
5. S&W 629 .44Mag
6. T/C Contender 7mm-08

These should take care of anything I need, but since I have 4 left over, why not have some fun?

7. Czech Skorpion .32 ACP (I know, an SMG)
8. AMT Automag III .30 Carbine (Fun!!!)
9. Gyrojet
10. Han Solo's Broomhandle

Link Posted: 12/2/2001 11:49:20 AM EDT

Originally Posted By ken_mays:

Originally Posted By AILapua:


Originally Posted By ken_mays:
Maybe some of us don't want to be any good with a gun, we just want to collect them.



Oook, whatever floats your boat.

Ai



Hey, let's face it... not all firearms enthusiasts necessarily want to be backyard commandos, "gunmen", or competition shooters. Not to disparage anyone who does, but assuming everyone has the same goals is probably not accurate.



Kinda like owning several high performance cars and just having your learners permit. What is the point of owning guns and not knowing how to shoot?
Link Posted: 12/2/2001 12:02:45 PM EDT
Link Posted: 12/2/2001 12:51:27 PM EDT
Casuls
Hi-cap 9mm's
.22 semis and wheelguns
.357's
.45 govt. model
something in .30 Luger
a Monty Python
a Luger Carbine
C-96 carbine
Krinkov (just fold the stock and call it a pistol)

------
I work for "Confuse A Cat."
Link Posted: 12/2/2001 1:01:03 PM EDT
1: 2 Sig 228's in 9mm (easy ammo supply)
2: 2 Sig 220's (again easy ammo)
3: S&W 686 6" 357
4: Ruger Mark II, stainless 5.5" bull
5: S&W 442 38special
6: 2 Springfield 1911 45's (well modified)
7: Ruger Redhawk in 44 Magnum w/ Leupold scope

Minimum of 6 mags or speedloaders for each. Several thousand rounds of ammo for each pistol caliber and one thousand for each revolver.

I guess this is my dream list,, I have all but #7.
Link Posted: 12/2/2001 1:08:04 PM EDT
Ruger MKII S/S 6 7/8 .22
S&W 625 5" .45Colt
KelTec P-32 w/nickel slide
S&W 442 airweight centenial .38
Walther PPK SS .380
Glock 23 .40
Colt 1911 S/S .45
Beretta 92 S/S 9mm
Browning Hi-Power 9mm
Kahr 9mm

1*
Link Posted: 12/2/2001 4:01:50 PM EDT
Sig p-220
Sig p-239
Sig p-245
Sig p-229
1911 colt
1911 springfield
HK usp-45
Glock 31
Glock 21
Glock 17
Link Posted: 12/3/2001 2:55:44 PM EDT

Originally Posted By BillD:

Originally Posted By ken_mays:

Originally Posted By AILapua:


Originally Posted By ken_mays:
Maybe some of us don't want to be any good with a gun, we just want to collect them.



Oook, whatever floats your boat.

Ai



Hey, let's face it... not all firearms enthusiasts necessarily want to be backyard commandos, "gunmen", or competition shooters. Not to disparage anyone who does, but assuming everyone has the same goals is probably not accurate.



Kinda like owning several high performance cars and just having your learners permit. What is the point of owning guns and not knowing how to shoot?



He doesn't mean he doesn't know how to shoot.

Just, to use your analogy, just because you have a high performance car doesn't mean you have to go out on the drag every Saturday night and race, or ever really meet the performance limits of the car.

I like my guns. I enjoy shooting them. I have no interest in becoming a competition shooter. I have no interest in being a mall ninja. I shoot just fine, and to the level of proficiency I care to shoot at. That doesn't make me less of a man than Tubbs.
Link Posted: 12/3/2001 3:43:19 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 12/3/2001 6:23:50 PM EDT by Derek45]
1. My grandfathers WWI issue Colt 1911(not 1911A1,too old )
2. My custom Kimber 1911
3. Glock 23
4. KelTech.32
5. S&W 686 .357mag
6. S&W 629 .44mag
That's enough for me, the 1911 type gun is the only one that really feels right anyway.

Link Posted: 12/3/2001 5:08:42 PM EDT
1. Kimber custom classic
2. Glock 31
3. Sig p220
4. CZ-75/85
5. FBI model springfeild m1911
6. Walther p99
7. SOCOM .45 with accessories
8. Berretta 92 elite2
9. Browning HI-Power
10.Ruger GP-100 stainless in .357

that'll do me
Link Posted: 12/3/2001 5:36:01 PM EDT
The Rock's list:

Glock 30 with Suppressor (these 2 will share)
Glock 21 with Suppressor <-^
Glock 19 with Suppressor
SDS/Ruger 22/45
Ruger 22/45
JAC Glock .22 conversion

That is only 5... hmm...

Add a good quality wheelgun in .454/.44/or equivalent.
Oh, and a Uzi. 9,.45 and .22.

Hmm.. what else?

I think that is it.

7.

Beat that.

TR
Link Posted: 12/4/2001 7:32:27 AM EDT


I would not say I don't want to be any good at anything. I am curious whether he or she isn't any good in the use of as far as accuracy goes or safe handling of firearms etc.
In any case, its of little consequence.



I'd say I'm better than average, but I am at the point where dramatic improvement in shooting skills would require a substantial investment of time, which is something I'm short on.

Besides, what's the point? I don't plan to compete and I don't work in law enforcement, so I feel that putting a lot of effort into honing easily-lost skills to no purpose is wasted effort. More to the point, I'm interested in collecting a wide variety of guns, which would preclude choosing one as a "favorite" to practice with to get really good.
Link Posted: 12/4/2001 11:45:09 AM EDT
That's easy: 10 - Sig Sauer P226's + 30 - 15 rd. Hi-caps + 150,000 rds. of CCI-Speer +P 9mm 124gr. Gold Dots.
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