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Posted: 2/12/2012 11:30:18 AM EDT
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http://www.kriss-tdi.com/
Anyone have experience with the semi-automatic versions of these guns? |
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There's been some talk in the Pistol Caliber Carbine section of the Armory forum. Might want to look around there. First thread I found... http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_6_48/352787_How_about_a_Kriss_Vector_thread_.html |
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couldn't handle the trigger? you mean you didn't like it? it's similar to a bulpup trigger
op, go to www.krisstalk.com no matter how you slice it though, every kriss super v should come with a mall cop badge |
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It would seem to me that the advantages to this gun are in full auto fire(or at least that what the videos imply) and if I civilian purchases a semi auto version, this advantage really don't apply.
I have never shot one before but to me, they look to large in girth and unwieldy. I would get a Beretta Storm rifle or something similar. |
| I concur. I love my carbine. Sure it isnt the beesknees of weapons but what is? There is no such thing as a magical all in one gun. The KRISS Vector is a unique weapon system no doubt about that. It fits a very unique problem that I have. I moved to NY State. I had to sell my glock 21. I need a NY state pistol permit to have a pistol and to even shoot one. However my KRISS Vector can be used at any range. I can participate in pistol matches, although im pretty much competing against myself. It is still fun. Also the KRISS is just fun to shoot. I had a hipoint 995 and I have a keltec Sub2000. I prefer the Sub2000 over the hipoint, which is why I got rid of the hipoint. But nothing touches the KRISS. Im gonna shoot a HK UMP This weekend but I have a feeling the KRISS will win over for me yet again. |
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I concur. I love my carbine. Sure it isnt the beesknees of weapons but what is? There is no such thing as a magical all in one gun. The KRISS Vector is a unique weapon system no doubt about that. It fits a very unique problem that I have. I moved to NY State. I had to sell my glock 21. I need a NY state pistol permit to have a pistol and to even shoot one. However my KRISS Vector can be used at any range. I can participate in pistol matches, although im pretty much competing against myself. It is still fun. Also the KRISS is just fun to shoot. I had a hipoint 995 and I have a keltec Sub2000. I prefer the Sub2000 over the hipoint, which is why I got rid of the hipoint. But nothing touches the KRISS. Im gonna shoot a HK UMP This weekend but I have a feeling the KRISS will win over for me yet again. I would actually like to get your input on this. All I have experience with is a UMP, so would be nice for someone to actually point out the pros and cons with first hand knowledge comparing the Kriss to the UMP. |
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I concur. I love my carbine. Sure it isnt the beesknees of weapons but what is? There is no such thing as a magical all in one gun. The KRISS Vector is a unique weapon system no doubt about that. It fits a very unique problem that I have. I moved to NY State. I had to sell my glock 21. I need a NY state pistol permit to have a pistol and to even shoot one. However my KRISS Vector can be used at any range. I can participate in pistol matches, although im pretty much competing against myself. It is still fun. Also the KRISS is just fun to shoot. I had a hipoint 995 and I have a keltec Sub2000. I prefer the Sub2000 over the hipoint, which is why I got rid of the hipoint. But nothing touches the KRISS. Im gonna shoot a HK UMP This weekend but I have a feeling the KRISS will win over for me yet again. I was wondering if you were going to show up Sol. Post some pics of your modified KRISS for the folks over here to see. |
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I concur. I love my carbine. Sure it isnt the beesknees of weapons but what is? There is no such thing as a magical all in one gun. The KRISS Vector is a unique weapon system no doubt about that. It fits a very unique problem that I have. I moved to NY State. I had to sell my glock 21. I need a NY state pistol permit to have a pistol and to even shoot one. However my KRISS Vector can be used at any range. I can participate in pistol matches, although im pretty much competing against myself. It is still fun. Also the KRISS is just fun to shoot. I had a hipoint 995 and I have a keltec Sub2000. I prefer the Sub2000 over the hipoint, which is why I got rid of the hipoint. But nothing touches the KRISS. Im gonna shoot a HK UMP This weekend but I have a feeling the KRISS will win over for me yet again. I was wondering if you were going to show up Sol. Post some pics of your modified KRISS for the folks over here to see. He wrote this and posted a video on krisstalk [quote="Solscud007"]Shot the UMP today. This is my first real test of a comparable carbine in 45 acp. Im not going to test the KRISS against a Hipoint 45 carbine, AR 45, Camp Marlin 45, or a Beretta CX4. Those are not in the same class as the KRISS. I must say the UMP is a truly well engineered weapon. KRISS felt solid to me until I shot the UMP. If the KRISS is a well tuned and engineered professional go-kart, the UMP is Formula 1. It is that much better in terms of engineering and tolerances. Another pro for the UMP is that the ejector works perfectly for unfired rounds. You cock the charging handle back and the live round goes flying out. Not the case with the Vector. Now the downsides. The Iron sights are too close to the top rail that co-witness irons with an optic is nigh impossible unless you get the optic to sit directly on the rail. I mean absolutely no riser of any kind and then you might be ale to get a 1/3 lower co-witness. Another issue is the mags. While well built and solid, they are just awkward. They are a huge brick. There is absolutely no reference as to which way is forward if you grab a mag off the bench. If you had custom kydex mag pouches made up, then you could orient the mags in one direction everytime so you know when you go to grab it. A simple contour on the leading edge corners would help give the operator feedback. Also the Mag of the UMP only hold 25 rds whereas the Vector mags with extension hold 30 rds. The mag release is like that of the MP5. While the KRISS Vector requires the left hand to activate the glock style mag release, there is a possible fix for this to remove the mag with the index finger. Im not sure what you can do with regards to the HK. Shooting the HK is interesting. It is solid. Like a tank. But I notice my sight picture moves a lot more so than with the KRISS. I find that i am spending more time re-aligning my sights back on target. Im not sure if that is due to something I'm doing as a shooter or just that the Super V system does what it is supposed to, because it doesnt take me that long with the KRISS. The stock on the HK UMP is noticeably longer length of pull and so the gun's weight seemed further away from me than the KRISS. Also I got a little bit of cheek bite from the HK UMP. The recoil is more pronounced and the rubberized plastic on the cheek piece caused friction against my face as the stock moved back and forth. Pics and video to come.[/quote] |
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