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Posted: 9/29/2011 11:14:56 PM

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Any body liking the Kriss V?

I rented a full 16" carbine verson at a range... liked it aot but felt the carbine version seemed a little big for what it was (i'd rather have a high cal rifle at that size), but
I love the SBR version but don't want to mess with the registration. Once I saw they came out with a Pistol version (SDP/Special Detail Pistol) I started to get a bad itch to buy one.


The V with its side kick (.45 glock 21)

I took it to the range yesterday and went through 250Rnds without the slightest hickup.
Its not recoilless like some people would like to say, but definitely less & the muzzle climb is alot less.
So far im really loving it!
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Posted: 9/30/2011 12:47:23 AM
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Sent mine for the SBR conversion about a year ago, form 4 should be back soon. The thing is completely worthless with the 16 inch barrel

By the way, if anyone is planning on buying one and then doing the SBR process... it's cheaper to get the pistol and SBR it than it is to get the rifle and then register it.
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Posted: 9/30/2011 1:25:12 AM
I love em when they are suppressed and have the giggle switch! I could live with just the SBR version tho.
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Posted: 9/30/2011 7:47:13 AM
You sent it to be SBR'd about a "year" ago???
Dang thats quite a wait time.

Yeah if anyone wants one to SBR, you can get the pistol version and then buy a complete stock assembly for under $100 bucks.
I may just have to do that. I was too excited to wait on SBR paperwork from the start, but I did see that as another plus for the pistol version if I decide to go that route.
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Posted: 9/30/2011 7:50:12 AM
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I've shot the fullsized carbine (Storm case, Eotech, Magpul metal sights, the whole deal), and my local SOT friend just got a real-deal SMG in for demo.
I'm taking some ammo to run through it soon, have to buy some off of "the list" in the manual. I've got a couple thousand rounds of Georgia Arms .45, but they're not on the list...
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Posted: 9/30/2011 10:34:00 AM
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Originally Posted By ItsAllCreated:
You sent it to be SBR'd about a "year" ago???
Dang thats quite a wait time.



Yeah, it's ridiculous. Sent it in last November, but they didn't get around to starting the process till sometime in spring/summer because they were busy from SHOT. Then had to wait on the form 1 for when they made it, then the form 3 to my dealer, and now the form 4 to me. Additionally, I forgot exactly how much it cost to shorten it, but it was over $400 not including the stamp. It would have been MUCH cheaper just to send it to ADCO, but that would void the warranty and the warranty is something you absolutely need with this badboy. so.... either get the SBR from the get go, or go with the pistol and then convert it. If you get the carbine version you'll just get pissed and eventually send it off for the conversion... so just save yourself the headache and the money

An additional option they are offering is to buy a whole new lower. If you guys notice, the barrel is on the lower half and the fire control group is on the upper half. So this way you could buy an additional lower half with a 5.5inch barrel and have that registered while keeping the 16 inch carbine barrel. All you would have to do is switch the upper. A cool option and if I remember right, it cost about $650 not including stamp. What I seriously do not like about this however, if they ever release the 9mm or .40 versions, then you would have to buy a whole new lower and register those as SBR's separately. So there are some pros and cons, just depends on how you look at it.
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Posted: 9/30/2011 9:06:37 PM
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I think the approved ammo list is more about ammo quality-control than it is about the V's ability to function properly.
But so far mines seems to work with just about anything I've put in it. I havent had a single malfunction

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I didnt know you could buy complete lowers. Thats cool

I did hear Kriss is adding 9mm and .40 versions .....thats VERY cool

Im not much interested in anything but the .45 for stopping effectiveness, but It might be fun to have a 9mm for pinking though
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Posted: 10/2/2011 5:58:09 PM
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Originally Posted By carterbrunelle:
Sent mine for the SBR conversion about a year ago, form 4 should be back soon. The thing is completely worthless with the 16 inch barrel

By the way, if anyone is planning on buying one and then doing the SBR process... it's cheaper to get the pistol and SBR it than it is to get the rifle and then register it.


Um. I dont think that is possible. I looked into my Kriss getting SBR. but I didnt. Since I moved to NY State. SBR are not allowed here.

The Pistol CANNOT have a stock. You need an entirely new Upper from a Carbine in order to put the stock on. At least that is what the Kriss people told me at SHOT earlier this year.

If you want SBR just buy the SBR direct from Kriss Super V. saves you money. Costs almost the same as Carbine.

Here is a video I whore out, of me and my kriss at shoothouse

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oIOcs4rBYYY[/youtube]


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Posted: 10/2/2011 8:25:45 PM
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Originally Posted By Solscud007:
Originally Posted By carterbrunelle:
Sent mine for the SBR conversion about a year ago, form 4 should be back soon. The thing is completely worthless with the 16 inch barrel

By the way, if anyone is planning on buying one and then doing the SBR process... it's cheaper to get the pistol and SBR it than it is to get the rifle and then register it.


Um. I dont think that is possible. I looked into my Kriss getting SBR. but I didnt. Since I moved to NY State. SBR are not allowed here.

The Pistol CANNOT have a stock. You need an entirely new Upper from a Carbine in order to put the stock on. At least that is what the Kriss people told me at SHOT earlier this year.

If you want SBR just buy the SBR direct from Kriss Super V. saves you money. Costs almost the same as Carbine.

Here is a video I whore out, of me and my kriss at shoothouse

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oIOcs4rBYYY




exactly, it's cheaper to get the pistol, and then register the lower and make it to a SBR. How they do it is not the point i'm making here, just that's it's cheaper to start with the pistol than carbine. You might have to purchase a new upper, beats me.


I completely agree with going with the SBR from the get go, but that's not always how life works out.
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Posted: 10/2/2011 11:28:24 PM
Originally Posted By Solscud007:

The Pistol CANNOT have a stock. You need an entirely new Upper from a Carbine in order to put the stock on. At least that is what the Kriss people told me at SHOT earlier this year.



Hmmm
It sure looks like you could add a stock.
The SPD has the same hinge and locking mechanisms as the SBR & Carbine version. It looks as if you could just take out the rivet that holds the SPD sling swivel (take it off), then add the SBR/Carbine stock.

Thats just my observation though ...I havent talked to Kriss about this.

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Posted: 10/3/2011 12:12:46 AM
This is posted from the Kriss website in the Questions & Answers area (regarding SBR Conversions)

"For SDP to SBR conversions, we recommend you send the firearm to us to do the conversion. The conversion consists of removing the butted end piece and adding a folding stock. Similar to the CRB to SBR conversion, we will complete the appropriate paperwork with the ATF to register the class 3/NFA SBR. Removing the butted end piece from the SDP is more complicated than it seems. Please note, any attempts to modify our firearms will result in a voided warranty. As such, we don't recommend individual users attempt to remove the butted end piece themself as this will void the warranty. There is a charge for this service."


So apparently theres no problem in adding a stock to the pistol, but it sucks that your warranty will be voided unless you pay them to do it.
...I sure as heck wouldnt want to wait a YEAR for them to do the work! LOL!
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Posted: 10/3/2011 10:54:02 AM
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...I sure as heck wouldnt want to wait a YEAR for them to do the work! LOL!


it's really not so much that it takes so long for them to get the work done, it's more that it is stuck in the NFA process more than anything.
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Posted: 10/3/2011 11:02:46 AM
My V & G21 at the range

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CRmF0Uy7iss

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ifaAKGOT3BU

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-3tZl7Q8Et8
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Posted: 10/3/2011 11:12:12 AM
Here's a reply from Kriss about the SDP to SBR conversion.

"Thanks for your inquiry. We do offer SDP to SBR conversions. The process is fairly simple if you'd like us to do the conversion. We will send you a quote for the work (approximately $318) which includes parts and labor. Once you agree to the quote, you can ship us your SDP. We will complete the appropriate forms with the ATF, so the conversion, and then ship it to your class 3 dealer for transfer to you. If this interests you, please let me know and I will prepare a quote for you. It will take about 3-5 to complete the conversion due to the paperwork.
If you have any other questions, please let me know."
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Posted: 10/3/2011 10:56:47 PM
KRISS in 10mm FTMFW!
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Posted: 10/3/2011 11:47:35 PM
Originally Posted By ItsAllCreated:
Here's a reply from Kriss about the SDP to SBR conversion.

"Thanks for your inquiry. We do offer SDP to SBR conversions. The process is fairly simple if you'd like us to do the conversion. We will send you a quote for the work (approximately $318) which includes parts and labor. Once you agree to the quote, you can ship us your SDP. We will complete the appropriate forms with the ATF, so the conversion, and then ship it to your class 3 dealer for transfer to you. If this interests you, please let me know and I will prepare a quote for you. It will take about 3-5 to complete the conversion due to the paperwork.
If you have any other questions, please let me know."


nice. not sure what the nfa wait time is for them to register it and then ship it to a dealer, but the personal transfer time is about 4-5 months. So it'd have to be at least a 8 month process
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Posted: 10/10/2011 3:20:21 PM
Originally Posted By carterbrunelle:
Originally Posted By ItsAllCreated:
Here's a reply from Kriss about the SDP to SBR conversion.

"Thanks for your inquiry. We do offer SDP to SBR conversions. The process is fairly simple if you'd like us to do the conversion. We will send you a quote for the work (approximately $318) which includes parts and labor. Once you agree to the quote, you can ship us your SDP. We will complete the appropriate forms with the ATF, so the conversion, and then ship it to your class 3 dealer for transfer to you. If this interests you, please let me know and I will prepare a quote for you. It will take about 3-5 to complete the conversion due to the paperwork.
If you have any other questions, please let me know."


nice. not sure what the nfa wait time is for them to register it and then ship it to a dealer, but the personal transfer time is about 4-5 months. So it'd have to be at least a 8 month process


Dealer to dealer transfers are taking about 3 weeks.
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Posted: 10/11/2011 12:34:15 AM
Originally Posted By KnesekGuns:
Originally Posted By carterbrunelle:
Originally Posted By ItsAllCreated:
Here's a reply from Kriss about the SDP to SBR conversion.

"Thanks for your inquiry. We do offer SDP to SBR conversions. The process is fairly simple if you'd like us to do the conversion. We will send you a quote for the work (approximately $318) which includes parts and labor. Once you agree to the quote, you can ship us your SDP. We will complete the appropriate forms with the ATF, so the conversion, and then ship it to your class 3 dealer for transfer to you. If this interests you, please let me know and I will prepare a quote for you. It will take about 3-5 to complete the conversion due to the paperwork.
If you have any other questions, please let me know."


nice. not sure what the nfa wait time is for them to register it and then ship it to a dealer, but the personal transfer time is about 4-5 months. So it'd have to be at least a 8 month process


Dealer to dealer transfers are taking about 3 weeks.


that's good news, hopefully everything will start to get faster. It seems like shipman is flying through form 1's
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Posted: 10/11/2011 11:45:18 PM
Anyone know if these Kriss Super V's have barrels that are pressed in or are they threaded? If threaded are they right hand or left hand threaded? The barrel is a left hand thread, and I for the life of me don't know WHY. I'd like to pull it off and thread the thing "properly."

I think the Kriss looks pretty good with an Osprey .45. We put that on upside down, because the lines look cleaner to the eye that way.

This is sitting at Adco waiting for my Form 4 to come back.

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Anyone know if these Kriss Super V's have barrels that are pressed in or are they threaded? If threaded are they right hand or left hand threaded? The barrel is a left hand thread, and I for the life of me don't know WHY. I'd like to pull it off and thread the thing "properly."

I think the Kriss looks pretty good with an Osprey .45. We put that on upside down, because the lines look cleaner to the eye that way.

This is sitting at Adco waiting for my Form 4 to come back.

http://www.revolverforums.com/forum/picture.php?albumid=46&pictureid=281


With the osprey upside down, is there enough clearance for the light?
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Anyone know if these Kriss Super V's have barrels that are pressed in or are they threaded? If threaded are they right hand or left hand threaded? The barrel is a left hand thread, and I for the life of me don't know WHY. I'd like to pull it off and thread the thing "properly."

I think the Kriss looks pretty good with an Osprey .45. We put that on upside down, because the lines look cleaner to the eye that way.

This is sitting at Adco waiting for my Form 4 to come back.

http://www.revolverforums.com/forum/picture.php?albumid=46&pictureid=281


With the osprey upside down, is there enough clearance for the light?


Yes. The upside down osprey keeps the bottom of the can clear of the bottom rail so you can use a light if you wish.
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Posted: 10/13/2011 1:45:16 AM
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Originally Posted By rjrivero:
Originally Posted By carterbrunelle:
Originally Posted By rjrivero:
Anyone know if these Kriss Super V's have barrels that are pressed in or are they threaded? If threaded are they right hand or left hand threaded? The barrel is a left hand thread, and I for the life of me don't know WHY. I'd like to pull it off and thread the thing "properly."

I think the Kriss looks pretty good with an Osprey .45. We put that on upside down, because the lines look cleaner to the eye that way.

This is sitting at Adco waiting for my Form 4 to come back.

http://www.revolverforums.com/forum/picture.php?albumid=46&pictureid=281


With the osprey upside down, is there enough clearance for the light?


Yes. The upside down osprey keeps the bottom of the can clear of the bottom rail so you can use a light if you wish.


No, I think you misunderstood my question, I'm talking about running a light in the hole of the upper receiver specifically meant for running a light. It's the hole above the barrel meant for executive series surefire.
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Posted: 10/13/2011 7:54:50 AM
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Originally Posted By carterbrunelle:
Originally Posted By rjrivero:
Anyone know if these Kriss Super V's have barrels that are pressed in or are they threaded? If threaded are they right hand or left hand threaded? The barrel is a left hand thread, and I for the life of me don't know WHY. I'd like to pull it off and thread the thing "properly."

I think the Kriss looks pretty good with an Osprey .45. We put that on upside down, because the lines look cleaner to the eye that way.

This is sitting at Adco waiting for my Form 4 to come back.

http://www.revolverforums.com/forum/picture.php?albumid=46&pictureid=281


With the osprey upside down, is there enough clearance for the light?


Yes. The upside down osprey keeps the bottom of the can clear of the bottom rail so you can use a light if you wish.


No, I think you misunderstood my question, I'm talking about running a light in the hole of the upper receiver specifically meant for running a light. It's the hole above the barrel meant for executive series surefire.


My question is, did you use the solid piston setup to lock up the Osprey, or does it still function with the piston? If it's not locked up, you could reduce some felt recoil by locking it up or using a fixed SMG can.
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Posted: 10/13/2011 9:46:56 AM
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Originally Posted By rjrivero:
Originally Posted By carterbrunelle:
Originally Posted By rjrivero:
Anyone know if these Kriss Super V's have barrels that are pressed in or are they threaded? If threaded are they right hand or left hand threaded? The barrel is a left hand thread, and I for the life of me don't know WHY. I'd like to pull it off and thread the thing "properly."

I think the Kriss looks pretty good with an Osprey .45. We put that on upside down, because the lines look cleaner to the eye that way.

This is sitting at Adco waiting for my Form 4 to come back.

http://www.revolverforums.com/forum/picture.php?albumid=46&pictureid=281


With the osprey upside down, is there enough clearance for the light?


Yes. The upside down osprey keeps the bottom of the can clear of the bottom rail so you can use a light if you wish.


No, I think you misunderstood my question, I'm talking about running a light in the hole of the upper receiver specifically meant for running a light. It's the hole above the barrel meant for executive series surefire.


My question is, did you use the solid piston setup to lock up the Osprey, or does it still function with the piston? If it's not locked up, you could reduce some felt recoil by locking it up or using a fixed SMG can.


Not sure what he's using, but the major told me I needed to use a fixed spacer or I would eventually destroy the gun
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Posted: 10/13/2011 11:40:52 AM
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Originally Posted By carterbrunelle:
Originally Posted By rjrivero:
Anyone know if these Kriss Super V's have barrels that are pressed in or are they threaded? If threaded are they right hand or left hand threaded? The barrel is a left hand thread, and I for the life of me don't know WHY. I'd like to pull it off and thread the thing "properly."

I think the Kriss looks pretty good with an Osprey .45. We put that on upside down, because the lines look cleaner to the eye that way.

This is sitting at Adco waiting for my Form 4 to come back.

http://www.revolverforums.com/forum/picture.php?albumid=46&pictureid=281


With the osprey upside down, is there enough clearance for the light?


Yes. The upside down osprey keeps the bottom of the can clear of the bottom rail so you can use a light if you wish.


No, I think you misunderstood my question, I'm talking about running a light in the hole of the upper receiver specifically meant for running a light. It's the hole above the barrel meant for executive series surefire.




I sure did misunderstand. I don't know for sure. I have an executive E2, I'll bring it over to the dealer and see if it clears with the Osprey upside down. Stand by.
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Originally Posted By carterbrunelle:
Originally Posted By rjrivero:
Anyone know if these Kriss Super V's have barrels that are pressed in or are they threaded? If threaded are they right hand or left hand threaded? The barrel is a left hand thread, and I for the life of me don't know WHY. I'd like to pull it off and thread the thing "properly."

I think the Kriss looks pretty good with an Osprey .45. We put that on upside down, because the lines look cleaner to the eye that way.

This is sitting at Adco waiting for my Form 4 to come back.

http://www.revolverforums.com/forum/picture.php?albumid=46&pictureid=281


With the osprey upside down, is there enough clearance for the light?


Yes. The upside down osprey keeps the bottom of the can clear of the bottom rail so you can use a light if you wish.


No, I think you misunderstood my question, I'm talking about running a light in the hole of the upper receiver specifically meant for running a light. It's the hole above the barrel meant for executive series surefire.


My question is, did you use the solid piston setup to lock up the Osprey, or does it still function with the piston? If it's not locked up, you could reduce some felt recoil by locking it up or using a fixed SMG can.


Use the solid piston. It's a fixed barrel.
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