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Posted: 1/31/2015 4:38:42 PM EDT
| Okay guys and gals i need help. Im looking for my first chest rig. I have been rolling around different ideas for months and cant decide exactly what to go with. So i thought id turn it over to the folks who have more experience with them. Im big on minimalist design. Im a big guy 6'2" and 215lbs so i like to get by with the least amount if weight and gear possible. This rig will be for range time, shtf, and classes (if i can find any). My main wants are somthing minimal, carry 4 AR mags, possibly 2 double stack pistol mags, and maybe an IFAK. While i know that an IFAK has its benefits, but im wondering if i truly need to have one on my rig. Or if i could just get by with a tourniquet. I want to have the highest chance of survival in an emergent situation, but i dont know that i would like all the bulk on my rig. I have looked at and really like the Iberian Boar chest rig, and the Pig Brig chest rig at SKD. Are there any others i should be looking at around that price range or less? All help is great. If you have somthing you think i would like or would work please post a picture with a description of all the components. |
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I like this
http://www.tacticaltailor.com/minimav-1.aspx + http://www.tacticaltailor.com/fightlightxharness.aspx The x-harness is really comfortable so it may look like it adds bulk but in terms of feel, it really makes it a more comfortable overall package if you are wearing over an extended time frame. Personally, for range time and classes I have gone to a belt and belt + lo-profile carrier for SHTF bc i just don't like all my equipment/mags on my right there where I am moving the rifle around (i'm sure a lot of ppl are a lot better at this than I am). However, I do like the TT chest rig and harness. |
| The Mayflower rig posted above is nice, I have one. Been really pleased with it. Another rig I've been really interested in recently is one of the Esstac rigs, just not sure of which. I just noticed you listed the Iberian so never mind. Final one that pops into my head is the SOE Micro Rig. I've had several and really, really liked them. If you go with one of those definitely buy the padded H-harness, it makes it much more comfortable. |
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Swamp Fox Mk. III
Mine will be here Monday, albeit the AKM version, and I suppose I'll have to do a review on that. Add a Molle double pistol pouch to one side, and your IFAK to the other. Boom, problem solved. 
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Swamp Fox Mk. III Mine will be here Monday, albeit the AKM version, and I suppose I'll have to do a review on that. Add a Molle double pistol pouch to one side, and your IFAK to the other. Boom, problem solved. Yip. I run a UW 4 cell AK rig...style with the two rows of webbing on the sides... i dig it so far. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile |
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Quoted:While i know that an IFAK has its benefits, but im wondering if i truly need to have one on my rig. Or if i could just get by with a tourniquet. I want to have the highest chance of survival in an emergent situation, but i dont know that i would like all the bulk on my rig. . This statement makes me even wonder if you'd know how and when to properly employ a TQ (much less other trauma gear). If you want the highest chance of survival in emergent situations, but don't want the bulk of an IFAK....stay away from emergent situations |
| I should have cleared that i guess. I plan to have one on the outside of my bag. And i have one that im slowly putting together for range trips. I was just wondering if having one on my rig would be excess bulk that i could leave on my bag instead of possibly being in the way on my rig. As far as using the gear goes im learning. Any type of airway or ventilation device (pocket mask/ mobile ambu) i have down as its my job. However wound care im trying to learn as i go. I can use a tourniquet fine but wound packing and stitching up im trying to learn. |
| Fair enough. I personally don't do rigs...I just go to the range with my range bag, but I always have a blowout kit in it within arms reach. IMO if you're gonna be around bullets....keep an IFAK on you or within arms reach. No exceptions. Don't worry about wound packing and stitching, if you or someone else gets shot, the first order of business is to stop the bleeding, prevent shock and transport. Let the Dr sew it up. |
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Everything Taktiq said x2 By all means keep a bigger and more comprehensive FAK on your bag, but you want at a bare minimum a bleeder/blowout kit on your person. FWIW my HSGI bleeder kit takes up the same amount of space as a M4 mag pouch and holds an 4" or 6" Izzy bandage and a TQ rubber banded to the side.
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I'm not sure what your background is, but you may want to look into some medical training. I'd much rather have a pair of gloves and some kind of emergency bandage (isreali, NAR, Olaes, etc) than have just a tourniquet.
--------------- Is there a specific reason you want a chest rig instead of a battle belt? I've got a beltMinus setup with four AR15 mags, IFAK, leatherman, and a radio. I could easily add pistol mags to it, but for my typical usage extra pistol mags doesn't seem worth the weight/bulk. Even if you really want a chestrig, check out the BFG RackMinus. |
| I keep giving some type of battle belt lots of thought. And that may be the direction i go. The big thing about a chest rig for me is the ability to throw a jacket or loose button up on over it if i needed to conceal it. Where as i feel a belt setup may be too bulky for that. Especially if i were to have my back pack on on top of it. My main useage would be SHTF or classes. As far as range time i have a couple of kydex ar mag holders i use as well as kydex pistol mag holders. Could you post pictures of the belt you have set up? Id like to see how that looks. |
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There's a whole thread of belts for you still on page one of this forum: http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_6_10/285299_War_Belt_1st_Line_Picture_Thread.html |
| I looked through that before posting and got some good ideas, but i didnt see many of the micro belts like he was talking about. So i was hoping for a picture of his specificly to see if it was somthing i should consider. I will look through the thread again and see if there is anything i missed though. Thanks. |
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Since you just want to carry some mags for range time and possible SHTF i can understand not wanting an IFAK on your kit. I have an HSGI bleeder/blowout on my plate carrier. LIke others have said, it doens't take up all that much space. I have a 6 inch Israeli dressing, a quik clot sponge and some medical tape stuffed into mine. I also have a CAT tourniquet on my PC with some bungee cord.
The SOE micro rig is pretty nice too, and inexpensive. http://www.originalsoegear.com/collections/micro-rigs/products/akm4-micro-rig |
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+1 for the Tactical Tailor gear.
I recently picked up a two-piece + x-harness + center velcro section so that I can use the whole front of the rig. Now, I also have a DSG belt that I put a mag or two and two to three pistol mags on, so I am only running 3-4 M4 mags on my vest. This will depend on my purpose for "gearing-up": pistol class, carbine class, outdoor range day. I also keep my dump pouch on the belt for carbine classes. Really, the belt is flexible so that I can use it for more minimal carry of mags and holster, but I can also use it by itself for classes. I like the idea of having the belt-rig combo so that I can rearrange based on the purpose of the day. I also looked hard at the Esstac Boar series, but I ended up deciding I didn't want to have the mag shingle built in to the rig. Just a personal preference, but it certainly works well for others. I did a lot of research, read a lot of articles online, checked out this site, watched a lot of videos and talked to a few folks before I decided. There's A LOT out there! |
| There certainly is a lot out there. Lol. Ive decided that i would rather have more flexibility to my loadout so i think i will be keeping my pistol mags on my belt. So essentially i will have my pistol strong side, two pistol mags weak side, one AR mag weak side (untill i can convince the guy who makes mine to try my stacked mag design), with 4 mags and somthing like the hsgi blow out on my rig. Honestly their AO small chest rig bundle would be great if it was a better price and double stack mag capabilities. I like the SOE micro rig because i could use the admin pouch for an IFAK, buf im not a fan of the velcro closure tops. I like the bungie or KYWI style. Mostl because if i have to quietly swap mags nothing in the world is louder than freakin velcro it seems. So i am still in search of my perfect rig. Lol. I like the D3 and gave it a lot of though but much like the UCR I feel that it is more bulk than i need. Knowing myself if i have the option to carry a bunch of crap i dont need and weight myself down i prolly will. So minimizing my rig to only carry esentials will be best for me. |
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There certainly is a lot out there. Lol. Ive decided that i would rather have more flexibility to my loadout so i think i will be keeping my pistol mags on my belt. So essentially i will have my pistol strong side, two pistol mags weak side, one AR mag weak side (untill i can convince the guy who makes mine to try my stacked mag design), with 4 mags and somthing like the hsgi blow out on my rig. Honestly their AO small chest rig bundle would be great if it was a better price and double stack mag capabilities. I like the SOE micro rig because i could use the admin pouch for an IFAK, buf im not a fan of the velcro closure tops. I like the bungie or KYWI style. Mostl because if i have to quietly swap mags nothing in the world is louder than freakin velcro it seems. So i am still in search of my perfect rig. Lol. I like the D3 and gave it a lot of though but much like the UCR I feel that it is more bulk than i need. Knowing myself if i have the option to carry a bunch of crap i dont need and weight myself down i prolly will. So minimizing my rig to only carry esentials will be best for me. You can get the AO chest rig alone and put whatever you want on it, including X2R tacos that would give you double stack rifle mags. I liked the D3 rig but I didn't like the static, non-changable pouches. Same here, that's the main reason why I didn't get the D3. I know I'd put stuff in the additional pouches on the D3 that would be better suited on my belt or pack. |
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Im actually looking at doing somthing like that now but with some different equipment. Has anyone tried these out?
SORD MFF CHEST RIG http://www.optactical.com/somffchrig.html ATS Stacker Open Top Shingles. http://www.optactical.com/atsdom4stmap.html Ill still use the HSGI Blow out kit because i have yet to find one i like better. |
| Does the size of that blow out kit get in the way being under your arm? Im left handed so it wont be an issue drawing my secondary from my belt, but i wonder about just general comfort and daily movement. On the plus side i guess it could make a good arm rest for my support arm. Lol. I do like the fact that i could carry 4 mags like i plan and have less bulk in the front. Makes it easier to get low to the ground. Like i said, i was really looking it over in the first place after seeing your posts and pictures in the chest rig thread. |
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Does the size of that blow out kit get in the way being under your arm? Im left handed so it wont be an issue drawing my secondary from my belt, but i wonder about just general comfort and daily movement. On the plus side i guess it could make a good arm rest for my support arm. Lol. I do like the fact that i could carry 4 mags like i plan and have less bulk in the front. Makes it easier to get low to the ground. Like i said, i was really looking it over in the first place after seeing your posts and pictures in the chest rig thread. No it doesn't, but I am used to it. I am currently using a Mid-ride Safariland ALS for both my M9 and my M&P 45 rigs. Being right handed initially I would brush the med pouch periodically when drawing, but after hundreds of presentations and practice, both Live and Dry fire it becomes routine and with muscle memory it really does not matter anymore. I don't even think about it. I see a lot of people that complain about this and that without actually running it for awhile to see if you can make it work. There is NO PERFECT Rig or set up. You will make sacrifices place to place or have to change the way you do something on occasion to compensate for gear worn or equipment that is carried at certain times. The Iberian is about as perfect a rig as I have found to fulfill my needs. In some situations I will run a Radio Pouch attached directly to the left side of the PC and the Pistol pouches buckle into the side straps on the MF rig. Again rock solid but it adds some bulk. I can also Plus up 2 additional mags by placing them in the "kangaroo" pouch in the PC behind the Iberian. I run two of the Esstac Bungee retainers that came out of a BOAR series vest in that pouch all the time just in case I ever need them in a pinch. I am primarily runing the Mayflower rig nowadays as it fits my needs better than the PIG does. Personal preference (Until Stu makes a PC anyway  )
Couple more pics. This MF rig is New. I just purchased this as a replacement PC for one I loned out a couple months ago to a friend in AFG. He is refusing to give it back so he sent me the cash to replace  , so I get the NEW One!!!!
Hope this helps and keep in mind different things work for different people. cp |
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No it doesn't, but I am used to it. I am currently using a Mid-ride Safariland ALS for both my M9 and my M&P 45 rigs. Being right handed initially I would brush the med pouch periodically when drawing, but after hundreds of presentations and practice, both Live and Dry fire it becomes routine and with muscle memory it really does not matter anymore. I don't even think about it. I see a lot of people that complain about this and that without actually running it for awhile to see if you can make it work. There is NO PERFECT Rig or set up. You will make sacrifices place to place or have to change the way you do something on occasion to compensate for gear worn or equipment that is carried at certain times. The Iberian is about as perfect a rig as I have found to fulfill my needs. In some situations I will run a Radio Pouch attached directly to the left side of the PC and the Pistol pouches buckle into the side straps on the MF rig. Again rock solid but it adds some bulk. I can also Plus up 2 additional mags by placing them in the "kangaroo" pouch in the PC behind the Iberian. I run two of the Esstac Bungee retainers that came out of a BOAR series vest in that pouch all the time just in case I ever need them in a pinch. I am primarily runing the Mayflower rig nowadays as it fits my needs better than the PIG does. Personal preference (Until Stu makes a PC anyway )
Couple more pics. This MF rig is New. I just purchased this as a replacement PC for one I loned out a couple months ago to a friend in AFG. He is refusing to give it back so he sent me the cash to replace , so I get the NEW One!!!!
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v314/eaglecp/ESSTAC/DSCN0135_zps9cd9yygc.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v314/eaglecp/ESSTAC/DSCN0136_zpstmqndhkh.jpg Hope this helps and keep in mind different things work for different people. cp Quoted:
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Does the size of that blow out kit get in the way being under your arm? Im left handed so it wont be an issue drawing my secondary from my belt, but i wonder about just general comfort and daily movement. On the plus side i guess it could make a good arm rest for my support arm. Lol. I do like the fact that i could carry 4 mags like i plan and have less bulk in the front. Makes it easier to get low to the ground. Like i said, i was really looking it over in the first place after seeing your posts and pictures in the chest rig thread. No it doesn't, but I am used to it. I am currently using a Mid-ride Safariland ALS for both my M9 and my M&P 45 rigs. Being right handed initially I would brush the med pouch periodically when drawing, but after hundreds of presentations and practice, both Live and Dry fire it becomes routine and with muscle memory it really does not matter anymore. I don't even think about it. I see a lot of people that complain about this and that without actually running it for awhile to see if you can make it work. There is NO PERFECT Rig or set up. You will make sacrifices place to place or have to change the way you do something on occasion to compensate for gear worn or equipment that is carried at certain times. The Iberian is about as perfect a rig as I have found to fulfill my needs. In some situations I will run a Radio Pouch attached directly to the left side of the PC and the Pistol pouches buckle into the side straps on the MF rig. Again rock solid but it adds some bulk. I can also Plus up 2 additional mags by placing them in the "kangaroo" pouch in the PC behind the Iberian. I run two of the Esstac Bungee retainers that came out of a BOAR series vest in that pouch all the time just in case I ever need them in a pinch. I am primarily runing the Mayflower rig nowadays as it fits my needs better than the PIG does. Personal preference (Until Stu makes a PC anyway )
Couple more pics. This MF rig is New. I just purchased this as a replacement PC for one I loned out a couple months ago to a friend in AFG. He is refusing to give it back so he sent me the cash to replace , so I get the NEW One!!!!
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v314/eaglecp/ESSTAC/DSCN0135_zps9cd9yygc.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v314/eaglecp/ESSTAC/DSCN0136_zpstmqndhkh.jpg Hope this helps and keep in mind different things work for different people. cp I like that mod you did with the Iberian. How did you get the two upper clips mounted on the upper straps? Did you have to cut them and then sew them back together to keep them in place? |
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I like that mod you did with the Iberian. How did you get the two upper clips mounted on the upper straps? Did you have to cut them and then sew them back together to keep them in place? LOL, I knew that question would come up.
Yes that is what I did at First, then I found these: 
They came from a USMC Strap kit that comes with their SPC. I see the all the time on EBAY. $20ish All I did was replace the Female with a Male Buckle and reverse the strap through the Buckle and secure with a tri-glide. Placed it here and replaced the x-harness strap with it. 
Looks like this from top. (Better pic added) Note: I positioned the Hook and loop to the far inside of the Iberians strip to get them a little clser to the same width of the buckles on the PC. Buckles on PC are about 6 Molle columns apart and the Iberian is about 8 apart. Placing them to the inside 2/3's of the strips lines them up almost perfectly. 
Also I added a couple pieces of Hook on the back but it really wasn't needed. I am anal and bored some nights
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LOL, I knew that question would come up.
Yes that is what I did at First, then I found these: http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v314/eaglecp/ESSTAC/DSCN0132_zpstl7ny1h6.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v314/eaglecp/ESSTAC/DSCN0131_zpsrwfscyzj.jpg They came from a USMC Strap kit that comes with their SPC. I see the all the time on EBAY. $20ish All I did was replace the Female with a Male Buckle and reverse the strap through the Buckle and secure with a tri-glide. Placed it here and replaced the x-harness strap with it. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v314/eaglecp/ESSTAC/BABL10.jpg Looks like this from top. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v314/eaglecp/ESSTAC/DSCN0142_zps2gv8nutd.jpg Hope that helps cp Quoted:
I like that mod you did with the Iberian. How did you get the two upper clips mounted on the upper straps? Did you have to cut them and then sew them back together to keep them in place? LOL, I knew that question would come up.
Yes that is what I did at First, then I found these: http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v314/eaglecp/ESSTAC/DSCN0132_zpstl7ny1h6.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v314/eaglecp/ESSTAC/DSCN0131_zpsrwfscyzj.jpg They came from a USMC Strap kit that comes with their SPC. I see the all the time on EBAY. $20ish All I did was replace the Female with a Male Buckle and reverse the strap through the Buckle and secure with a tri-glide. Placed it here and replaced the x-harness strap with it. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v314/eaglecp/ESSTAC/BABL10.jpg Looks like this from top. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v314/eaglecp/ESSTAC/DSCN0142_zps2gv8nutd.jpg Hope that helps cp Yes that does help. I was just looking at your set up and was trying to figure out how you did that. I am looking for a chest rig to mount to my APC when it gets here sometime this week. I was not sure to go with eother a chest rig set up or just get some pouches and just mount them to the APC. |
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Personally never been a fan of mounting directly to vest.
I like the idea of maintaining my Armor and being able to drop my main load when in a High thread area. Makes it easier to use the Latrine....................
Edited to add, I am going to move all this to a new thread as well. cp |
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Personally never been a fan of mounting directly to vest. I like the idea of maintaining my Armor and being able to drop my main load when in a High thread area. Makes it easier to use the Latrine....................
Edited to add, I am going to move all this to a new thread as well. cp I have ran both ways but do like being able to drop my mag's and stuff if I want or need to and just keep my armor on as well. |
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You can get the AO chest rig alone and put whatever you want on it, including X2R tacos that would give you double stack rifle mags. I liked the D3 rig but I didn't like the static, non-changable pouches. Same here, that's the main reason why I didn't get the D3. I know I'd put stuff in the additional pouches on the D3 that would be better suited on my belt or pack. Quoted:
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There certainly is a lot out there. Lol. Ive decided that i would rather have more flexibility to my loadout so i think i will be keeping my pistol mags on my belt. So essentially i will have my pistol strong side, two pistol mags weak side, one AR mag weak side (untill i can convince the guy who makes mine to try my stacked mag design), with 4 mags and somthing like the hsgi blow out on my rig. Honestly their AO small chest rig bundle would be great if it was a better price and double stack mag capabilities. I like the SOE micro rig because i could use the admin pouch for an IFAK, buf im not a fan of the velcro closure tops. I like the bungie or KYWI style. Mostl because if i have to quietly swap mags nothing in the world is louder than freakin velcro it seems. So i am still in search of my perfect rig. Lol. I like the D3 and gave it a lot of though but much like the UCR I feel that it is more bulk than i need. Knowing myself if i have the option to carry a bunch of crap i dont need and weight myself down i prolly will. So minimizing my rig to only carry esentials will be best for me. You can get the AO chest rig alone and put whatever you want on it, including X2R tacos that would give you double stack rifle mags. I liked the D3 rig but I didn't like the static, non-changable pouches. Same here, that's the main reason why I didn't get the D3. I know I'd put stuff in the additional pouches on the D3 that would be better suited on my belt or pack. Yes - static, non-changeable pouches is why I decided on TT instead of Esstac. Of course, you can still get the Esstac and add other pouches to the front, too. But, as I posted above, I was all about flexibility. And for easy, open-top pouches with good retention, you won't go wrong with Esstac Kywi or HSGI Tacos. I have both. Tacos on my belt for 1-2 AR and up to 3 pistol mag (one of my AR tacos is double-stack for a pistol mag), and the 4 Kywi's on my chest rig. Sometimes I leave one empty, again, depending on what I am doing. I've gone through many iterations already to get to this point, and it's likely I'll change again, hahahaha. |
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Since you've decided to keep pistol mags on your belt, I would suggest this PIG BRIG CR: You can run it as just a chest rig with their harness, or remove the harness and attach it to the PIG BRIG Plate Carrier: |
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Yes - static, non-changeable pouches is why I decided on TT instead of Esstac. Of course, you can still get the Esstac and add other pouches to the front, too. But, as I posted above, I was all about flexibility. And for easy, open-top pouches with good retention, you won't go wrong with Esstac Kywi or HSGI Tacos. I have both. Tacos on my belt for 1-2 AR and up to 3 pistol mag (one of my AR tacos is double-stack for a pistol mag), and the 4 Kywi's on my chest rig. Sometimes I leave one empty, again, depending on what I am doing. I've gone through many iterations already to get to this point, and it's likely I'll change again, hahahaha. Quoted:
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There certainly is a lot out there. Lol. Ive decided that i would rather have more flexibility to my loadout so i think i will be keeping my pistol mags on my belt. So essentially i will have my pistol strong side, two pistol mags weak side, one AR mag weak side (untill i can convince the guy who makes mine to try my stacked mag design), with 4 mags and somthing like the hsgi blow out on my rig. Honestly their AO small chest rig bundle would be great if it was a better price and double stack mag capabilities. I like the SOE micro rig because i could use the admin pouch for an IFAK, buf im not a fan of the velcro closure tops. I like the bungie or KYWI style. Mostl because if i have to quietly swap mags nothing in the world is louder than freakin velcro it seems. So i am still in search of my perfect rig. Lol. I like the D3 and gave it a lot of though but much like the UCR I feel that it is more bulk than i need. Knowing myself if i have the option to carry a bunch of crap i dont need and weight myself down i prolly will. So minimizing my rig to only carry esentials will be best for me. You can get the AO chest rig alone and put whatever you want on it, including X2R tacos that would give you double stack rifle mags. I liked the D3 rig but I didn't like the static, non-changable pouches. Same here, that's the main reason why I didn't get the D3. I know I'd put stuff in the additional pouches on the D3 that would be better suited on my belt or pack. Yes - static, non-changeable pouches is why I decided on TT instead of Esstac. Of course, you can still get the Esstac and add other pouches to the front, too. But, as I posted above, I was all about flexibility. And for easy, open-top pouches with good retention, you won't go wrong with Esstac Kywi or HSGI Tacos. I have both. Tacos on my belt for 1-2 AR and up to 3 pistol mag (one of my AR tacos is double-stack for a pistol mag), and the 4 Kywi's on my chest rig. Sometimes I leave one empty, again, depending on what I am doing. I've gone through many iterations already to get to this point, and it's likely I'll change again, hahahaha. The Boar series does have an option(just not listed anywhere) for a padded backpanel with no pockets. It is .25" thick X 5.25" tall X width of your specific Boar/bushy/trimmed. crappy old photobucket pic I hope this post is within the rules 
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Extreme Gear Labs Chest Rigs
This is the guy who makes the Haley Strategic Rigs... I'm picking up his 3 mag carrier as soon as I can gather the funds. 
I'll also add his drop panel pocket for my IFAK 
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Anyway, here's a pic of my Swamp Fox Mk. III, which I finally got to break out this morning and get fitted.
At first I though they sent me thing wrong thing, the box it mailed in was a lot smaller than I'd have thought. AKM in pic for scale. This is super lo-pro; I have a zip-up fleece that I wear when I'm working in the freezer at work and this rig (with mags) would easily conceal under it. I left one flap open, and the other is tucked behind the other mag, so you can see how that works. Like they say on their site, there's just enough room on both sides of the mag pouches for a radio pouch or BOK or little IFAK. 
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There certainly is a lot out there. Lol. Ive decided that i would rather have more flexibility to my loadout so i think i will be keeping my pistol mags on my belt. So essentially i will have my pistol strong side, two pistol mags weak side, one AR mag weak side (untill i can convince the guy who makes mine to try my stacked mag design), with 4 mags and somthing like the hsgi blow out on my rig. Honestly their AO small chest rig bundle would be great if it was a better price and double stack mag capabilities. I like the SOE micro rig because i could use the admin pouch for an IFAK, buf im not a fan of the velcro closure tops. I like the bungie or KYWI style. Mostl because if i have to quietly swap mags nothing in the world is louder than freakin velcro it seems. So i am still in search of my perfect rig. Lol. I like the D3 and gave it a lot of though but much like the UCR I feel that it is more bulk than i need. Knowing myself if i have the option to carry a bunch of crap i dont need and weight myself down i prolly will. So minimizing my rig to only carry esentials will be best for me. You can get the AO chest rig alone and put whatever you want on it, including X2R tacos that would give you double stack rifle mags. I liked the D3 rig but I didn't like the static, non-changable pouches. Same here, that's the main reason why I didn't get the D3. I know I'd put stuff in the additional pouches on the D3 that would be better suited on my belt or pack. Yes - static, non-changeable pouches is why I decided on TT instead of Esstac. Of course, you can still get the Esstac and add other pouches to the front, too. But, as I posted above, I was all about flexibility. And for easy, open-top pouches with good retention, you won't go wrong with Esstac Kywi or HSGI Tacos. I have both. Tacos on my belt for 1-2 AR and up to 3 pistol mag (one of my AR tacos is double-stack for a pistol mag), and the 4 Kywi's on my chest rig. Sometimes I leave one empty, again, depending on what I am doing. I've gone through many iterations already to get to this point, and it's likely I'll change again, hahahaha. The Boar series does have an option(just not listed anywhere) for a padded backpanel with no pockets. It is .25" thick X 5.25" tall X width of your specific Boar/bushy/trimmed. crappy old photobucket pic I hope this post is within the rules
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Quoted: I like the BRIG. It was one of my top two choices. Other than the Iberian. I really like the low profile of it. But that i dont even have the option for an IFAK. Which ive now decided i need one. Lol. So im trying to decide if i should build or buy. Lol. Something like this: (this one is probably a little too big for a belt setup, but it works)  |
| Nice setup! And that may be what i go with if i do a war belt set up. My belt setup in mind would be somthing like a micro belt. Currently i have my strong side holster with a support side pistol mag and rifle mag carrier. So really what i would do would add one more pistol mag carrier. This way i could just keep my AR mag carrier and second pistol mag carrier in my go bag as my EDC is my holster and one spare mag. If needed open the bag, thread the two carriers onto my belt, throw on my chest rig. And then i would have my pistol with mag, two spare mags for it, and an AR mag on my belt. Plus my 4 on my chest totaling to 5 spare mags plus one in my rifle. So if i was to ever have my rig off i would still have all of my pistol reloads with one spare for my rifle. |
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