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Posted: 5/20/2024 8:22:25 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MK318:  The G30 is a pretty chunky grip. What kind of hands do you got? Sheesh.  Need all fingers on the grip. Not a fan of the 2 finger grip. |
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Posted: 5/20/2024 8:23:34 PM EDT
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Anyone spot a P227 for cheap???
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Posted: 5/20/2024 8:44:51 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By JThompson: You are correct as I did own one, but the trigger was terrible and ended up selling it. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By JThompson: Originally Posted By FlamingDragon: M&P 45 is what you seek. You are correct as I did own one, but the trigger was terrible and ended up selling it. Apex Tactical trigger completely solves any trigger issues, giving you a much crisper trigger. If the only issue you had was the trigger, it’s an easy install. |
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Posted: 5/20/2024 9:03:34 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By JThompson: Need all fingers on the grip. Not a fan of the 2 finger grip. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By JThompson: Originally Posted By MK318: The G30 is a pretty chunky grip. What kind of hands do you got? Sheesh. Need all fingers on the grip. Not a fan of the 2 finger grip. A Glock 30 is 3/4 of an inch shorter than a 21(just under actually). Sounds like a fullsize gun is what you really need. |
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Posted: 5/20/2024 9:34:02 PM EDT
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SAR USA K245CBL
CZ ergos, alloy frame 14+1 capacity DA/SA can be carried cocked and locked, or hammer down DA first round. (no decocker though) I have the full sized steel frame and love it.  Attached File |
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Posted: 5/20/2024 9:42:24 PM EDT
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 My RIA 3.10 with P14 mags fit the bill. Someone on here makes grip extenders |
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Posted: 5/21/2024 1:56:45 AM EDT
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10+1 .45 in a concealable package?
I think a G30S would fit that bill perfectly. It's the smallest .45 I own (slightly smaller than a G19), it's a Glock so it's stupid simple and reliable and parts and accessories are pretty prolific, and it can still accept the larger G21 mag if needed. |
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Posted: 5/21/2024 6:04:47 AM EDT
[Last Edit: bigfignewton]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By the_professional: 10+1 .45 in a concealable package? I think a G30S would fit that bill perfectly. It's the smallest .45 I own (slightly smaller than a G19), it's a Glock so it's stupid simple and reliable and parts and accessories are pretty prolific, and it can still accept the larger G21 mag if needed. Nevermind |
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Posted: 5/21/2024 6:08:23 PM EDT
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P320 compact with the small grip frame.
Carries like a 9mm! |
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Posted: 5/21/2024 8:36:56 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Blain: P320 compact with the small grip frame. Carries like a 9mm! Usually swap out for the L frame with the P320, but small grip frame may actually be a good idea for carry. |
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Posted: 5/22/2024 4:46:23 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Nick_Adams]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By JThompson: Anyone spot a P227 for cheap??? Frankly, you’d do just as well with a 8+1 S&W model 4506 (5”) or model 4566 (4.25”). Yeah, it’s one round short of 10, but both are all-steel DA/SA beasts. Parts and mags you can still find. There are still a lot of 45XX-series L.E.-“trade-ins” floating around. They show exterior wear but internally most are nearly pristine since they weren’t shot all that much. Some of the late-model 4566s I’ve seen for sale have the TSW upgrades, like the rail on the frame. |
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Posted: 5/22/2024 5:19:33 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Stateguy12: S&w shield .45 is an excellent carry option but not quite 10 rounds. https://www.armscor.com/firearms-list/310-45acp-10rd This sub compact from rock island has always intrigued me. I Have one of these, it is a fantastic carry option, it is about the same size as my .40 Shield. I carry it in a shoulder rig with two spare mags in the winter months, 31 rounds of man stopping thump should get the job done in short order.  " /> " /> " />With 13 round Warthog mag.  " />
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Posted: 5/22/2024 8:00:32 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By FlamingDragon: https://i.imgur.com/V0Vw5GX.jpg This checks all the boxes. 13+1 with 15+1 backup. I actually settled on this 40, because like OP I couldn't find a 45 that fit. PPQ 45 comes really close though. I could get away with carrying it when the weather here is cooler. The ppq 45 is still one of my favorites. Little thick, but it shoots well and just fits my hand well |
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Posted: 5/24/2024 12:00:26 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 03RN]
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Posted: 5/24/2024 1:07:15 PM EDT
[#15]
I seem to be posting this a lot recently. I ccw eitjer of these easily AIWB. The full size trigfer was done by Dan Burwell retains all facory sprongs, and is the best striker fired trigfer I have ever owned.
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Posted: 5/24/2024 8:33:08 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Rheinmetall792: HK45C is slim for a .45. Flush 8 rds and you can have 10 rds extended, although you give up some stealth. For warm climates, 9mm owns this game. I’m picking up a 45c tomorrow. |
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Posted: 5/25/2024 12:47:51 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Finslayer83: I’m picking up a 45c tomorrow. One of us. One of us. Welcome. 
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Posted: 5/25/2024 5:42:32 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Mars87: One of us. One of us. Welcome. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Mars87: Originally Posted By Finslayer83: I’m picking up a 45c tomorrow. One of us. One of us. Welcome. 
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Posted: 5/25/2024 5:46:26 PM EDT
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I always wanted a Para ordinance warthog...
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Posted: 5/25/2024 7:45:09 PM EDT
[#20]
Full Size 1911
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Posted: 5/25/2024 7:54:56 PM EDT
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Posted: 5/25/2024 8:34:26 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Finslayer83: I’m picking up a 45c tomorrow. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Finslayer83: Originally Posted By Rheinmetall792: HK45C is slim for a .45. Flush 8 rds and you can have 10 rds extended, although you give up some stealth. For warm climates, 9mm owns this game. I’m picking up a 45c tomorrow. Congratulations and welcome to one of the worst triggers ever manufactured. All the plastic fuckery of a Glock striker system, plus all the fuckery of DA/SA like a Beretta 92. It's like HK was determined to do anything and everything that sucks about triggers, all at once in one gun. Wanna use a flashlight? Fuck you Wanna mount a red dot? Double fuck you |
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Posted: 5/26/2024 9:32:27 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By LamePostCount: I seem to be posting this a lot recently. I ccw eitjer of these easily AIWB. The full size trigfer was done by Dan Burwell retains all facory sprongs, and is the best striker fired trigfer I have ever owned. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/549629/20210603_113739_jpg-3222302.JPG @LamePostCount I have the same two pistols. Who did your optic cuts? Thinking about doing my Shield 45 (first). |
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Posted: 5/26/2024 9:51:32 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Finslayer83: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/164007/DF269933-9444-4AE8-8178-58339D9952C6-3223171.jpg Does that magazine hold 12 like advertised or only 11? I bought two and they both only hold 11. |
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Posted: 5/26/2024 10:21:10 AM EDT
[Last Edit: LamePostCount]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Slingblade2006: @LamePostCount I have the same two pistols. Who did your optic cuts? Thinking about doing my Shield 45 (first). Primary Machine did both. The full size got their black nitride as well. That was back when the nitride was only an additional week or two. At that time the turnaround for the slide cut and nitride for me was only 3 weeks. The shield only had the pocket cerakoted. The factory finish on the shield has a ton more wear than the pics show. It was my EDC for a while and I trained with it regularly. The nitride on the full size still looks brand new several years later. |
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Posted: 5/26/2024 10:23:40 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By LamePostCount: Primary Machine did both. The full size got their black nitride as well. That was back when the nitride was only an additional week or two. At that time the turnaround for the slide cut and nitride for me was only 3 weeks. The shield only had the pocket cerakoted. The factory finish on the shield has a ton more wear than the pics show. It was my EDC for a while and I trained with it regularly. The nitride on the full size still looks brand new seceral year later. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By LamePostCount: Originally Posted By Slingblade2006: @LamePostCount I have the same two pistols. Who did your optic cuts? Thinking about doing my Shield 45 (first). Primary Machine did both. The full size got their black nitride as well. That was back when the nitride was only an additional week or two. At that time the turnaround for the slide cut and nitride for me was only 3 weeks. The shield only had the pocket cerakoted. The factory finish on the shield has a ton more wear than the pics show. It was my EDC for a while and I trained with it regularly. The nitride on the full size still looks brand new seceral year later. Both look great. Thank you for the info. SB |
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Posted: 5/26/2024 10:47:23 AM EDT
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The 4" M&P .45 is roughly thebsize if a G19 with a 1/2" longer grip.
https://www.handgunhero.com/compare/glock-g19-gen5-vs-smith-wesson-m-p-2-0-45-4-compact  Attached File Attached File |
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Posted: 5/26/2024 10:55:26 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Finslayer83]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Missilegeek: Congratulations and welcome to one of the worst triggers ever manufactured. All the plastic fuckery of a Glock striker system, plus all the fuckery of DA/SA like a Beretta 92. It's like HK was determined to do anything and everything that sucks about triggers, all at once in one gun. Wanna use a flashlight? Fuck you Wanna mount a red dot? Double fuck you Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Missilegeek: Originally Posted By Finslayer83: Originally Posted By Rheinmetall792: HK45C is slim for a .45. Flush 8 rds and you can have 10 rds extended, although you give up some stealth. For warm climates, 9mm owns this game. I’m picking up a 45c tomorrow. Congratulations and welcome to one of the worst triggers ever manufactured. All the plastic fuckery of a Glock striker system, plus all the fuckery of DA/SA like a Beretta 92. It's like HK was determined to do anything and everything that sucks about triggers, all at once in one gun. Wanna use a flashlight? Fuck you Wanna mount a red dot? Double fuck you I traded a spare 43x MOS for it, which was just living in the safe. It's destined to be a host and woods gun, single action is just fine for my intended purposes. Originally Posted By Mars87: Does that magazine hold 12 like advertised or only 11? I bought two and they both only hold 11. Day 2 with it - just got everything yesterday , let me go see.ETA: 11 as well |
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Posted: 5/26/2024 11:14:43 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Finslayer83: I traded a spare 43x MOS for it, which was just living in the safe. It's destined to be a host and woods gun, single action is just fine for my intended purposes. Day 2 with it - just got everything yesterday , let me go see.ETA: 11 as well Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Finslayer83: Originally Posted By Missilegeek: Originally Posted By Finslayer83: Originally Posted By Rheinmetall792: HK45C is slim for a .45. Flush 8 rds and you can have 10 rds extended, although you give up some stealth. For warm climates, 9mm owns this game. I’m picking up a 45c tomorrow. Congratulations and welcome to one of the worst triggers ever manufactured. All the plastic fuckery of a Glock striker system, plus all the fuckery of DA/SA like a Beretta 92. It's like HK was determined to do anything and everything that sucks about triggers, all at once in one gun. Wanna use a flashlight? Fuck you Wanna mount a red dot? Double fuck you I traded a spare 43x MOS for it, which was just living in the safe. It's destined to be a host and woods gun, single action is just fine for my intended purposes. Originally Posted By Mars87: Does that magazine hold 12 like advertised or only 11? I bought two and they both only hold 11. Day 2 with it - just got everything yesterday , let me go see.ETA: 11 as well German Engineering!!!! |
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Posted: 5/26/2024 11:18:26 AM EDT
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S&W M&P45
. . . or simply carry a full sized 1911 with a Wilson 8 round mag 8+1 = 9 close enough ...or carry a full size M&P40 = 16 rounds of a proven hot round |
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Posted: 5/26/2024 1:08:48 PM EDT
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No one seems to have the M&P 2.0 (.45) in stock.
Probably not going to work but just picked up the FN 545. The price was too good to pass up. Still going to look for the M&P though as that seems to fit the criteria the best.....for me. |
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Posted: 5/26/2024 1:19:49 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By JThompson: No one seems to have the M&P 2.0 (.45) in stock. . https://www.primaryarms.com/smith-and-wesson-mp45-2.0-full-size-.45-acp-handgun-black-with-10-round-mags https://tombstonetactical.com/product/smith-wesson-11523-mp-45-m2.0-45-acp-4.50-101-black-armornite-stainless-steel-interchangeable-backstrap-grip https://grabagun.com/smith-and-wesson-and-wesson-30.html |
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Posted: 5/26/2024 2:25:59 PM EDT
[Last Edit: JThompson]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Colt653: https://www.primaryarms.com/smith-and-wesson-mp45-2.0-full-size-.45-acp-handgun-black-with-10-round-mags https://tombstonetactical.com/product/smith-wesson-11523-mp-45-m2.0-45-acp-4.50-101-black-armornite-stainless-steel-interchangeable-backstrap-grip https://grabagun.com/smith-and-wesson-and-wesson-30.html Thanks, but I meant LGS. Would like to at least hold one and see how well it fits before buying. Also, would like to check out the different barrel lengths. |
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Posted: 5/26/2024 4:37:04 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Slingblade2006]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By JThompson: Thanks, but I meant LGS. Would like to at least hold one and see how well it fits before buying. Also, would like to check out the different barrel lengths. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By JThompson: Originally Posted By Colt653: https://www.primaryarms.com/smith-and-wesson-mp45-2.0-full-size-.45-acp-handgun-black-with-10-round-mags https://tombstonetactical.com/product/smith-wesson-11523-mp-45-m2.0-45-acp-4.50-101-black-armornite-stainless-steel-interchangeable-backstrap-grip https://grabagun.com/smith-and-wesson-and-wesson-30.html Thanks, but I meant LGS. Would like to at least hold one and see how well it fits before buying. Also, would like to check out the different barrel lengths. Check your LGS for police trade M&P 45 1.0. They show up around here for about $300. Another $100 in Apex parts and you will have a great shooter. |
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Posted: 5/27/2024 7:50:18 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By JThompson: 1911 is great, but limited to about 6 rounds. The Walther PPQ has 10+ rounds but too bulky to carry. Even carrying at 4 o'clock it is pretty obvious that I am carrying. A 1911 with 10 round mag could work, but the mag is going to stick too far out. Glock 21 is also too big. Thinking about the FN 545 but reviews indicate its a bit too big to carry and prints too much. What else is out there? Some crazy good deals here. I'm thinking about the 4" M2.0 myself. https://www.sportsmansoutdoorsuperstore.com/category.cfm/sportsman/used-firearms/brand/smith-and-wesson/of3/45-acp/currentpage/2 |
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Posted: 5/27/2024 8:09:42 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By JThompson:.... Would like to at least hold one and see how well it fits before buying. .... Good point |
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Posted: 5/28/2024 4:33:20 AM EDT
[Last Edit: JThompson]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By LamePostCount: Some crazy good deals here. I'm thinking about the 4" M2.0 myself. https://www.sportsmansoutdoorsuperstore.com/category.cfm/sportsman/used-firearms/brand/smith-and-wesson/of3/45-acp/currentpage/2 They have a New In Box about $50 more than other people. Everything else is out of stock which means their prices probably won't be these prices when items come back in stock. ETA This is one with a safety for about $100 cheaper than new. |
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Posted: 5/28/2024 8:06:40 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Dino11: I Have one of these, it is a fantastic carry option, it is about the same size as my .40 Shield. I carry it in a shoulder rig with two spare mags in the winter months, 31 rounds of man stopping thump should get the job done in short order. https://i.imgur.com/eXECQZC.jpg" target="_blank">https://i.imgur.com/eXECQZC.jpg https://i.imgur.com/uD1FY7K.jpg" target="_blank">https://i.imgur.com/uD1FY7K.jpg https://i.imgur.com/0jvi4T9.jpg" target="_blank">https://i.imgur.com/0jvi4T9.jpg With 13 round Warthog mag. https://i.imgur.com/uD0E9vS.jpg" target="_blank">https://i.imgur.com/uD0E9vS.jpg It's just a Para-Ordnance P10/Warthog. 
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Posted: 5/28/2024 11:44:11 PM EDT
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Full size 1911 for the win. 8+1 is close enough
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Posted: 5/30/2024 11:05:24 PM EDT
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USP45compact with CT10rd mag.
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Posted: 5/31/2024 4:10:38 AM EDT
[Last Edit: NachoDip]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 45BArmorer: SAR USA K245CBL CZ ergos, alloy frame 14+1 capacity DA/SA can be carried cocked and locked, or hammer down DA first round. (no decocker though) I have the full sized steel frame and love it. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/69136/SAR_USA_K245CBL_jpg-3219617.JPG Not gonna lie. That’s neat. Never seen one before. Off to do more research. I have a few Jerichos that I like a lot. But this thing you have here looks great. 14+1 has to make that grip large too. For those with larger hands not an issue. I want to find one just to handle it. Generally I make it a point to avoid Turkish made guns. But this one has piqued my curiosity. Back to the OP. Lots of good choices here so far. |
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Posted: 5/31/2024 7:43:31 AM EDT
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I find the G30 to be quite interesting.
Some years back I had the need for a serious carry gun and found a used G30 . No "S" just the regular G30. With my medium sized hands if feels huge , chunky and generally wrong . As a old guy with lots of shooting and some competition with a full sized 1911 I had the feeling I had blundered when buying the G30 . As it turned out in no time at all I found out when shooting with full power self defense loads I very easily shot the G30 better than my old trusty tuned 1911 . Not just somewhat better but night and day better. My conclusion is the huge blocky uncomfortable grip of the G30 forces me to grip tighter and in a more consistent way . I suppose hand size and strength will be different for different folks but for me the G30 is a great tool. Chunky , blocky , ugly with a trigger from hell but a great tool . Over the years I have considered going to one of the aftermarket triggers but It boils down to the fact that I shoot the ugly bitch well as is. Slow fire on paper or something like a timed plate rack it just works so well for me |
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Posted: 5/31/2024 2:01:06 PM EDT
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Check out a Glock 36, if you can find one
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Posted: 5/31/2024 2:24:06 PM EDT
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HK45C
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Posted: 6/1/2024 9:12:11 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By mudholestomper: The S&W Shield would be an option. This is a good idea, as is the little -remarked Beretta PX4 in .45 acp. I have been really impressed with the Beretta and it carries well. |
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Posted: 6/1/2024 10:52:44 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By LamePostCount: The 4" M&P .45 is roughly thebsize if a G19 with a 1/2" longer grip. https://www.handgunhero.com/compare/glock-g19-gen5-vs-smith-wesson-m-p-2-0-45-4-compact https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/549629/Screenshot_20240526_104624_Chrome_jpg-3223941.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/549629/Screenshot_20240526_104532_Chrome_jpg-3223942.JPG The 45C is the same size as a G19 too. |
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Posted: 6/1/2024 3:14:40 PM EDT
[Last Edit: yamahawarrior89]
[#47]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By NachoDip: Not gonna lie. That’s neat. Never seen one before. Off to do more research. I have a few Jerichos that I like a lot. But this thing you have here looks great. 14+1 has to make that grip large too. For those with larger hands not an issue. I want to find one just to handle it. Generally I make it a point to avoid Turkish made guns. But this one has piqued my curiosity. Back to the OP. Lots of good choices here so far. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By NachoDip: Originally Posted By 45BArmorer: SAR USA K245CBL CZ ergos, alloy frame 14+1 capacity DA/SA can be carried cocked and locked, or hammer down DA first round. (no decocker though) I have the full sized steel frame and love it. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/69136/SAR_USA_K245CBL_jpg-3219617.JPG Not gonna lie. That’s neat. Never seen one before. Off to do more research. I have a few Jerichos that I like a lot. But this thing you have here looks great. 14+1 has to make that grip large too. For those with larger hands not an issue. I want to find one just to handle it. Generally I make it a point to avoid Turkish made guns. But this one has piqued my curiosity. Back to the OP. Lots of good choices here so far. I asked the importer and the frames are stainless steel. Usually when "alloy frame" is mentioned, it is assumed to be aluminum alloy. Not in this case.  Attached File Attached FileLoaded weight  Attached FileThe 3.8 xdm elite holds 10 rounds, decent trigger for a striker fired gun, and is a true double stack so it isn't as tall as other 10rd 45's. It is around 5" tall when most others are 5.5" tall. For me, 1911 carry the best because you notice the width most. Then height. Adding an optic adds height as well. S&W shield and the Kahr P45 also are slender. You loose a few rounds with them though. The fn545 is tall, especially with an optic. Wish they would make flush mags for it. |
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Posted: 6/7/2024 9:27:22 PM EDT
[#48]
What year is this?
But OP you should handle a S&W M&P 2.0 45 pretty slim and very similar to overall size of the the M&P 9. It’s not nearly as large as say Glock .45 grips or the fn545 nor is the slide |
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Posted: 6/7/2024 10:16:55 PM EDT
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A buddy has a Springfield XD 4" Compact; 10+1 .45 and approximately the same size as a G19. Not my choice but he likes it and hasn't had any issues with it. Just another option.
You can put me in the LW Commander camp; 8+1 and ten round spares if desired (I just carry 8rnders). Still one of my favorite carry guns. |
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Posted: 6/8/2024 4:08:16 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ScoutH57: What year is this? But OP you should handle a S&W M&P 2.0 45 .... Searching but can't find a local store that has one in stock to handle. |
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