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10/3/2011 3:29:24 PM EDT
Ordered the TopGunSupply kit. Got around to installing the newer seat, mainspring, and hammer strut. However there is some play when I push this assembly inwards toward the grip frame of the gun. It feels very weird cocking the hammer and decocking does not really work at all. And now I am confusing myself. The newer spring that order with this kit should be shorter than the one already in there correct? Not by much, but it is shorter.


BEFORE



AFTER/NOT WORKING


This is how far the decocker works




And HERE is a youtube of it.
10/3/2011 5:24:08 PM EDT
[#1]
Your hammer strut isn't installed correctly.  Remove the strut and decock.  The hammer needs to be up when you install it.  

The strut needs to point straight up, like in your first picture.  Push it up and rearward into the frame.  You'll be able to feel it if you push up on the mainspring and work the hammer with your finger.
10/3/2011 5:27:29 PM EDT
[#2]
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Your hammer strut isn't installed correctly.  Remove the strut and decock.  The hammer needs to be up when you install it.  

The strut needs to point straight up, like in your first picture.  Push it up and rearward into the frame.  You'll be able to feel it if you push up on the mainspring and work the hammer with your finger.


^^^ Plus your going to need a new style trigger bar spring.
10/3/2011 5:30:40 PM EDT
[#3]
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Your hammer strut isn't installed correctly.  Remove the strut and decock.  The hammer needs to be up when you install it.  

The strut needs to point straight up, like in your first picture.  Push it up and rearward into the frame.  You'll be able to feel it if you push up on the mainspring and work the hammer with your finger.


^^^ Plus your going to need a new style trigger bar spring.


First I've heard of this.  Do you have personal experience, or a link to that?  Do you mean mainspring?
10/3/2011 5:37:26 PM EDT
[#4]
Quoted:
Your hammer strut isn't installed correctly.  Remove the strut and decock.  The hammer needs to be up when you install it.  

The strut needs to point straight up, like in your first picture.  Push it up and rearward into the frame.  You'll be able to feel it if you push up on the mainspring and work the hammer with your finger.


This is why I love this place. Everything is working now! Time to try and squeeze these grips on now...



Love it.
10/3/2011 6:05:09 PM EDT
[#5]
I had the same issue the first time I installed one.
Tried the second time and got it working.
I like the E2 a lot.
10/3/2011 6:26:47 PM EDT
[#6]
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I had the same issue the first time I installed one.
Tried the second time and got it working.
I like the E2 a lot.



Feels great in the hand. Need to take it to the range to make sure its functioning properly tomorrow.
10/3/2011 6:30:58 PM EDT
[#7]
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Your hammer strut isn't installed correctly.  Remove the strut and decock.  The hammer needs to be up when you install it.  

The strut needs to point straight up, like in your first picture.  Push it up and rearward into the frame.  You'll be able to feel it if you push up on the mainspring and work the hammer with your finger.


^^^ Plus your going to need a new style trigger bar spring.


First I've heard of this.  Do you have personal experience, or a link to that?  Do you mean mainspring?


Yeah I put E2 grips on my p229. If you have the old style trigger bar spring you need to get a new one. My sig is a mid 90's model. So I think its just older guns that need the spring.

Old style spring

New style spring
10/3/2011 6:45:01 PM EDT
[#8]
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Your hammer strut isn't installed correctly.  Remove the strut and decock.  The hammer needs to be up when you install it.  

The strut needs to point straight up, like in your first picture.  Push it up and rearward into the frame.  You'll be able to feel it if you push up on the mainspring and work the hammer with your finger.


^^^ Plus your going to need a new style trigger bar spring.


First I've heard of this.  Do you have personal experience, or a link to that?  Do you mean mainspring?


Yeah I put E2 grips on my p229. If you have the old style trigger bar spring you need to get a new one. My sig is a mid 90's model. So I think its just older guns that need the spring.

Old style spring

New style spring


Guess I lucked out. Mines a 96.
10/3/2011 6:53:13 PM EDT
[#9]
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Your hammer strut isn't installed correctly.  Remove the strut and decock.  The hammer needs to be up when you install it.  

The strut needs to point straight up, like in your first picture.  Push it up and rearward into the frame.  You'll be able to feel it if you push up on the mainspring and work the hammer with your finger.


^^^ Plus your going to need a new style trigger bar spring.


First I've heard of this.  Do you have personal experience, or a link to that?  Do you mean mainspring?


Yeah I put E2 grips on my p229. If you have the old style trigger bar spring you need to get a new one. My sig is a mid 90's model. So I think its just older guns that need the spring.

Old style spring

New style spring


OK, I searched for this, and got a few posts of people needing to do what you said.  Seemed like it's a grip fit issue with the old style spring.

What was your specific issue with the old spring?

10/3/2011 7:07:00 PM EDT
[#10]
With the old spring the grip will not sit flush on the frame.