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Posted: 2/2/2024 12:24:16 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By gotuonpaper: I know why it is done it just is a personal bugaboo. LOL It was not a knock on the build just me being a weirdo. LOL |
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Posted: 2/2/2024 12:39:04 PM EDT
[Last Edit: WittyTiger]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By gotuonpaper: It was not a knock on the build just me being a weirdo. LOL Haha all good didn’t think you were knocking it. I get the same way about clone stuff so I understand. This one has just been unobtanium for me so I caved. Edit: the only gen 4 19 mos I can find on the internet right now is a used no box non threaded Austrian made on GB. Selling for almost 900 (auction) with shipping…crazy |
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Posted: 2/2/2024 2:12:16 PM EDT
[Last Edit: naes]
[#3]
On the Mk27 Mod 2 does/did the military use the standard Glock mounting plate?
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Posted: 2/2/2024 2:24:42 PM EDT
[Last Edit: WittyTiger]
[#4]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By naes: On the Mk27 Mod 2 does/did the military use the standard Glock mounting plate? @naes Yes as far as what I’ve seen from when it was issued. However, they may use another now if they started seeing the same problem civilians did with it. |
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Posted: 2/2/2024 2:31:39 PM EDT
[#5]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By naes: On the Mk27 Mod 2 does/did the military use the standard Glock mounting plate? Haven't seen a Mod 2 but the Gen 3 MOS came with 4 or 5 mounting plates. |
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Posted: 2/2/2024 2:37:57 PM EDT
[#6]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Combat_Diver: Haven't seen a Mod 2 but the Gen 3 MOS came with 4 or 5 mounting plates. Think he may be referring to the Glock MOS plates vs aftermarket stuff but I may be wrong. Assuming the gen 3s were sent with the Glock brand adapter plate kits CD? |
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Posted: 2/2/2024 3:06:28 PM EDT
[#7]
Yes, I was asking if they use Glock plates or an aftermarket solution due to issues that have been seen with the Glock plates in the civilian world.
I didn’t even realize they made Gen 3 MOS. Now I want one of those. |
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Posted: 2/2/2024 3:13:18 PM EDT
[#8]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By naes: Yes, I was asking if they use Glock plates or an aftermarket solution due to issues that have been seen with the Glock plates in the civilian world. I didn't even realize they made Gen 3 MOS. Now I want one of those. but they use standard plates, unless the individual purchases their own. |
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Posted: 2/2/2024 3:22:58 PM EDT
[#9]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By WittyTiger: Think he may be referring to the Glock MOS plates vs aftermarket stuff but I may be wrong. Assuming the gen 3s were sent with the Glock brand adapter plate kits CD? Believe so |
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NE, USA
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Posted: 2/19/2024 3:23:15 PM EDT
[#10]
CAG ever use Gen 3 G17s? I ordered a DPP yesterday and have an old 2009 G17 sitting around.
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Posted: 2/19/2024 4:52:20 PM EDT
[#11]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By StealthGuy: CAG ever use Gen 3 G17s? I ordered a DPP yesterday and have an old 2009 G17 sitting around.  Attached File |
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NE, USA
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Posted: 2/19/2024 6:03:44 PM EDT
[#12]
Sweet. Wish I had got an ALG when available. Dawson will have to do.
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NE, USA
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Posted: 2/20/2024 12:19:45 AM EDT
[#13]
If anyone has a spare ALG magwell in DDC let me know.
 
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Posted: 2/21/2024 3:08:02 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Combat_Diver]
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Posted: 2/21/2024 3:08:57 AM EDT
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Posted: 2/21/2024 5:47:49 AM EDT
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Posted: 2/21/2024 10:04:05 AM EDT
[#17]
Thats a good looking piece. Holster is slick too. Why I do I want this now!?
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Posted: 2/21/2024 11:11:50 AM EDT
[#18]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Howler4: Thats a good looking piece. Holster is slick too. Why I do I want this now!? Same here. Looks handy! |
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Posted: 2/21/2024 12:05:30 PM EDT
[Last Edit: LsuJon]
[#19]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Fordtough25: Same here. Looks handy! Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Fordtough25: Originally Posted By Howler4: Thats a good looking piece. Holster is slick too. Why I do I want this now!? Same here. Looks handy! |
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NE, USA
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Posted: 2/24/2024 5:42:38 PM EDT
[Last Edit: StealthGuy]
[#20]
RTF2 frame in and slide off for DPP cut.
 Is this correct for CAG Glocks? 
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Posted: 2/24/2024 6:52:23 PM EDT
[#21]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By StealthGuy: RTF2 frame in and slide off for DPP cut. https://i.imgur.com/DrQjxYM.jpeg Is this correct for CAG Glocks? https://i.imgur.com/QmKOBbB.png https://www.ar15.com/forums/handguns/G19-in-the-SF-communities-/13-179518/&page=32#i2492952 |
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Posted: 2/25/2024 6:41:09 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Joescuba]
[#22]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By StealthGuy: RTF2 frame in and slide off for DPP cut. https://i.imgur.com/DrQjxYM.jpeg Is this correct for CAG Glocks? https://i.imgur.com/QmKOBbB.png I've only seen G22 with the RTF frames. I've seen both G-19 and G-23s with RTFs. Not all of them had mag wells. It depended on what they were being used for. Some had the KKM threaded barrels or factory Glock threaded barrels for use with the AAC suppressors. Most just had the standard factory barrels. Once away from the flagpole, anything could have been changed. I've even seen Gen 3, G- 35's with OD frames in use. That looks like the start of a nice build. Regards |
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Posted: 2/25/2024 6:47:09 PM EDT
[#23]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By WTFShane: https://www.ar15.com/forums/handguns/G19-in-the-SF-communities-/13-179518/&page=32#i2492952 Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By WTFShane: https://www.ar15.com/forums/handguns/G19-in-the-SF-communities-/13-179518/&page=32#i2492952 Originally Posted By StealthGuy: RTF2 frame in and slide off for DPP cut. https://i.imgur.com/DrQjxYM.jpeg Is this correct for CAG Glocks? https://i.imgur.com/QmKOBbB.png |
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Posted: 2/25/2024 6:59:08 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Joescuba]
[#24]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By LsuJon: lol Idk what exact slide you are getting cut, but it wouldn't be appropriate for a gen 3 frame if that is what it's going on. Yes, they all had/used Doctor Optics back in the day. There are still a few of the DR optics going strong. But life is imperfect and it depends on who you are working with. I know many people who used their own personal slides with their own privately purchased optics in the field. Burris, RMRs, and even some DPPs. The key is returning it to the original configuration before turning it in. |
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NE, USA
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Posted: 2/25/2024 9:31:21 PM EDT
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Thanks for the info. Never got in handgun clones so this is a first.
I guess I’m pretty much copying a gun Augee posted years ago but with the comp of the actual JSOC gun pic. And with a Dawson magwell until I can track down an ALG. 
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Posted: 2/26/2024 7:29:17 AM EDT
[#26]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By StealthGuy: Thanks for the info. Never got in handgun clones so this is a first. I guess I’m pretty much copying a gun Augee posted years ago but with the comp of the actual JSOC gun pic. And with a Dawson magwell until I can track down an ALG. https://i.imgur.com/g7gsSiw.jpg Very nice. JSOC re-purposed the G22, some with the RTF. A Dawson magwell would be correct as well as an ALG. Most of those re-purposed G-22 used the Dawson front sight and the Dawson rear sight on the DPP. Best Regards |
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Posted: 3/4/2024 8:28:57 PM EDT
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Posted: 3/6/2024 12:25:31 AM EDT
[#28]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By LsuJon: Imma a patient guy, would also be interested in m17/18 if you are doing those also. On topic, CAG gen 5 long bois note the serialized slide. luckily the water mark is small https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/316069/IMG_4532_jpeg-3075805.JPGhttps://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/316069/IMG_4533_jpeg-3075806.JPGhttps://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/316069/IMG_4535_jpeg-3075807.JPG Can't really see the top of the slide, confirmed gen 5? |
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Posted: 3/6/2024 12:32:47 AM EDT
[Last Edit: ChemTrailZ]
[#29]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Joescuba: Very nice. JSOC re-purposed the G22, some with the RTF. A Dawson magwell would be correct as well as an ALG. Most of those re-purposed G-22 used the Dawson front sight and the Dawson rear sight on the DPP. Best Regards Afaik the correct Dawson is the heavy brass which is currently less obtainable than even the alg(last alg I saw sold was a grey anodized a little over a year ago for ~$475) Or would the ice magwell also be correct? Wouldn’t surprise me if they were used, but only photos I’ve seen have been of the heavy brass(blackened version) on the rtf2s and the ice only on gen 5s |
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Posted: 3/6/2024 12:33:54 AM EDT
[#30]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By OptimusTrajan: Can't really see the top of the slide, confirmed gen 5? |
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Posted: 3/6/2024 1:39:43 AM EDT
[#31]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By LsuJon: Yes there is other photos from that event of the pistols in the holster, clearly showing the gen 5 frame. I had no idea they made gen 5 34s without the front serrations. That's neat. |
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Posted: 3/6/2024 4:11:17 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By LsuJon: Start of another project. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/316069/IMG_5639_jpeg-3149465.JPGhttps://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/316069/IMG_5637_jpeg-3149467.JPG Finding the handgun is the hardest part, so you're like 90% complete. |
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Posted: 3/6/2024 10:11:51 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By WTFShane: Finding the handgun is the hardest part, so you're like 90% complete. |
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Posted: 3/6/2024 10:30:04 AM EDT
[#34]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Combat_Diver: Made a holster for it. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/32677/IMG_6879_jpeg-3136269.JPG Very cool. |
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Posted: 3/9/2024 10:29:53 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ChemTrailZ: Afaik the correct Dawson is the heavy brass which is currently less obtainable than even the alg(last alg I saw sold was a grey anodized a little over a year ago for ~$475) Or would the ice magwell also be correct? Wouldn’t surprise me if they were used, but only photos I’ve seen have been of the heavy brass(blackened version) on the rtf2s and the ice only on gen 5s Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ChemTrailZ: Originally Posted By Joescuba: Very nice. JSOC re-purposed the G22, some with the RTF. A Dawson magwell would be correct as well as an ALG. Most of those re-purposed G-22 used the Dawson front sight and the Dawson rear sight on the DPP. Best Regards Afaik the correct Dawson is the heavy brass which is currently less obtainable than even the alg(last alg I saw sold was a grey anodized a little over a year ago for ~$475) Or would the ice magwell also be correct? Wouldn’t surprise me if they were used, but only photos I’ve seen have been of the heavy brass(blackened version) on the rtf2s and the ice only on gen 5s Your saying the unused ALG magwell I’ve got sitting in a parts bin is worth over 400 bucks? lol….the ICE is correct, Pressburg has numerous pics of one on his 34/35 and comp’d 22. |
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Posted: 3/9/2024 11:39:08 AM EDT
[#36]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Wyominer: Your saying the unused ALG magwell I've got sitting in a parts bin is worth over 400 bucks? lol .the ICE is correct, Pressburg has numerous pics of one on his 34/35 and comp'd 22. 250 seems more accurate. |
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Posted: 3/9/2024 7:34:01 PM EDT
[#37]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Wyominer: Your saying the unused ALG magwell I’ve got sitting in a parts bin is worth over 400 bucks? lol….the ICE is correct, Pressburg has numerous pics of one on his 34/35 and comp’d 22. I’ve never seen an ice on one of his gen 3s, only the heavy brass, sentinel concepts and alg, any chance you can share the referenced pics? And yeah the alg is $$$ right now, mostly because they rarely come up for sale |
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Posted: 3/9/2024 10:13:55 PM EDT
[#38]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ChemTrailZ: I've never seen an ice on one of his gen 3s, only the heavy brass, sentinel concepts and alg, any chance you can share the referenced pics? And yeah the alg is $$$ right now, mostly because they rarely come up for sale  Attached File |
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Posted: 3/10/2024 11:46:17 AM EDT
[#39]
Quote HistoryQuote HistoryOriginally Posted By LsuJon: Originally Posted By ChemTrailZ: I've never seen an ice on one of his gen 3s, only the heavy brass, sentinel concepts and alg, any chance you can share the referenced pics? And yeah the alg is $$$ right now, mostly because they rarely come up for sale That was the picture I was thinking of. Thanks |
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Posted: 3/10/2024 11:57:59 AM EDT
[#40]
My son's CIF team in 2016 in Baghdad with me. He had just stepped down as team sgt and went to SWC two weeks before deploying. I've posted these before.
G22  Attached File Attached File Attached File |
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Posted: 3/10/2024 12:00:22 PM EDT
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Posted: 3/10/2024 4:12:18 PM EDT
[#42]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Combat_Diver: Never knew what suppressor they ran https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/32677/IMG_2270_JPG-3155293.JPGhttps://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/32677/IMG_2272_JPG-3155294.JPGhttps://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/32677/IMG_2273_JPG-3155296.JPGhttps://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/32677/IMG_2274_JPG-3155299.JPG  Attached File |
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Posted: 3/10/2024 5:52:50 PM EDT
[#43]
Quote HistoryMaybe it’s the angle, but I don’t think that’s a Dawson; and pretty sure the ice magwells Pressburg is referencing is the heavy brass(like the ones on the g22s just posted) which I guess dawson called a super heavy ice back in the day |
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FL, USA
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Posted: 3/11/2024 11:00:06 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Parabellum226]
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I agree that the Pressburg gun pictured does not have a Dawson. I have multiple dawsons, and they all share the same profile regardless of brass or aluminum. The front juts out a lot more.
To me it looks like an old T.H.E accessories magwell. Aluminum with no Delrin (ice) insert. I picked up one since I was also trying to match the magwell that appears in the arms room photo of the Tan ALG six second mount. Profile looks very similar to the ALG (don’t could also be a prototype), just with a more gloss anodizing and less machining tool paths visible. I’ll try to find the old brownells link & photo. Edit Found it: page 223 https://feeds.brownells.com/userdocs/Miscellaneous/catalog2019/pdfs/72-Pistol-P212-241.pdf T.H.E. accessories competition magwell for Glock Better photos on the 6-sec G22 https://soldiersystems.net/2015/03/20/advanced-holster-6-second-mount-holster/ |
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Posted: 3/11/2024 8:08:24 PM EDT
[#45]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Parabellum226: I agree that the Pressburg gun pictured does not have a Dawson. I have multiple dawsons, and they all share the same profile regardless of brass or aluminum. The front juts out a lot more. To me it looks like an old T.H.E accessories magwell. Aluminum with no Delrin (ice) insert. I picked up one since I was also trying to match the magwell that appears in the arms room photo of the Tan ALG six second mount. Profile looks very similar to the ALG (don’t could also be a prototype), just with a more gloss anodizing and less machining tool paths visible. I’ll try to find the old brownells link & photo. Edit Found it: page 223 https://feeds.brownells.com/userdocs/Miscellaneous/catalog2019/pdfs/72-Pistol-P212-241.pdf T.H.E. accessories competition magwell for Glock Better photos on the 6-sec G22 https://soldiersystems.net/2015/03/20/advanced-holster-6-second-mount-holster/ It does look very alg-esque; is this unobtanium as well? |
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Posted: 3/11/2024 8:30:30 PM EDT
[#46]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ChemTrailZ: It does look very alg-esque; is this unobtanium as well? Rare, but not as expensive (“found mine for $60 last year). I’ll link you if I find one. |
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Posted: 3/11/2024 10:38:01 PM EDT
[Last Edit: StealthGuy]
[#47]
Scored a like new "fish gill" G22 RTF2. CAG clone #2 has commenced.
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NE, USA
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Posted: 3/12/2024 9:56:09 AM EDT
[#49]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TinyCrumb: Did CAG use the fish gill G22? I thought they only had G22s with RTF frames and standard uppers? I do have a G22 slide sitting in a box somewhere I bought for my old G24. |
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Posted: 3/12/2024 10:14:30 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TinyCrumb: @Combat_Diver I believe it was the AAC Evolution. I cloned this gun awhile back. (ignore the missing trigger pin) https://i.imgur.com/JbHXBRf.jpg Did CAG use the fish gill G22? I thought they only had G22s with RTF frames and standard uppers? Thank you |
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