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Posted: 9/2/2010 6:58:14 AM EDT
| So does anyone here,believe that bayonets are still useful in the modern world of combat? |
 i sure like to collect them useful or not as military weapon. There hasn't been a bayonet charge in many a war. The intimidation/coolness.
factor still exists.. Still a handy way to poke something at a standoff distance you'd rather not poke up close and personal, |
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This ...Furthermore, there is only so much ammo one can carry. ...and as a tertiary point, they ALWAYS serve a psychological benefit |
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A bayonet turns a rifle into a spear.
Spears have been used for at least four hundred thousand years. Some of the various monkeys use spears too. While a pointy stick is not the worlds best fighting weapon, it works, and it kills. The Romans knew that it was the penetrating wound from the Gladius that killed quickly. The spear provides a low cost, easy to train, penetrating weapon. This caused the spear to be the most common weapon until the advent of the firearm. And so even after the widespread use of the firearm, people kept the ability to use the firearm as a spear. Some would foolish argue that the firearm also doubles as a club, and that this club is a fine weapon in it self rendering the bayonet unnecessary. Those people do not know their history. While a rifle does make a functional club, it is not the buttstoke that often kills. I have buttstroked several people. It is good for distracting, injuring, or forcing compliance. However in the military fighting setting the buttstroke was ment to be create the opening to bayonet the enemy. The bayonet is obsolete, modern warfare doesn't need it. However fighting with spear like weapons is just as effective as it was 400,000 years ago. |
I've got some bayonets but not as much as some members here, the large one is the Ontario OKC3S USMC Marines and the others are various brands of the older M7 bayonet. My favorite is my OKC3S (NSN: 1095-01-506-3424) Marines bayonet, they're stronger than older types of bayonets and they're also available in a different blade style the OKC 1FTS model. Ontario Knife Co. reference info: OKC3S: http://www.ontarioknife.com/catalog/item/3 OKC 1FTS: http://www.ontarioknife.com/catalog/item/13 |
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The Brits have done a couple charges in Iraq and in the Falklands.
They are useful for the guy watching over the people in the house that's being searched. Kind of makes it a lot harder to attempt a disarm when the rifle has a pointy stick on it. The training is supposed to help increase a Soldier's aggressiveness. |
| When you think about it though, only 5/9ths of an Army infantry squad can actually mount a bayonet. The squad leader, both team leaders, and the two riflemen. The 2 automatic rifleman have SAWs and the 2 grenadiers have either an M203 or an M320 on their rifles and unless they remove the tube, there isn't enough room to mount a bayonet. |
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