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Posted: 5/4/2020 10:06:09 PM EDT
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I hope Cabela’s gets their shipment soon. I ordered through them to use some free points I had built up.
The waiting wouldn’t be so bad if it wasn’t for everyone here flaunting them... 
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Posted: 5/8/2020 12:23:20 PM EDT
[#2]
 Vortex Razor Gen III 1-10x24: Optics Review - LPVO Figured I'd share this here. If you have any questions you'd like to ask us RE the optic or how it compares to some of the other popular ones out there, don't hesitate to ask. - Josh, 9HR |
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Posted: 5/8/2020 12:54:06 PM EDT
[#3]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By GorillaTactical:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6eJhvCt5vY0Figured I'd share this here. If you have any questions you'd like to ask us RE the optic or how it compares to some of the other popular ones out there, don't hesitate to ask. - Josh, 9HR Excellent cinematography. |
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Posted: 5/8/2020 6:34:44 PM EDT
[#4]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By GorillaTactical: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6eJhvCt5vY0Figured I'd share this here. If you have any questions you'd like to ask us RE the optic or how it compares to some of the other popular ones out there, don't hesitate to ask. - Josh, 9HR Great content! I like the side-by-side comparison between the 10x and 6x. Really gives a great visual of what you’re gaining with the extra 4x. |
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Posted: 5/8/2020 11:11:58 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By oldbrowndog: Wait, you mean the same dude who claimed Knight's makes guns that are overgassed and unreliable? That dude? Lol. Dude is a drama queen trying to stir up fanboys to get attention. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By oldbrowndog: Originally Posted By stevenangel86: This “dude” josh Costa absolutely knows what he’s talking about. Deals in products most average shooters can only wish they had. His customer service is outstanding. I’m sorry you got your butt hurt. But don’t come slam a guy that has more time behind products than you do. Wait, you mean the same dude who claimed Knight's makes guns that are overgassed and unreliable? That dude? Lol. Dude is a drama queen trying to stir up fanboys to get attention. Well, I can absolutely state, with extensive experience, that my Mod 2 KAC CQB (11.5") has way too much pressure to the BCG with the 5.56 ammo that I use. Unreliable would be incorrect however. Don't think it has much relevance to this thread though. Back on topic. |
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Posted: 5/12/2020 10:43:03 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By GorillaTactical: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6eJhvCt5vY0Figured I'd share this here. If you have any questions you'd like to ask us RE the optic or how it compares to some of the other popular ones out there, don't hesitate to ask. - Josh, 9HR Great stuff....well done and thank you for posting. |
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Posted: 5/12/2020 12:56:10 PM EDT
[#7]
Quote HistoryQuoted: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6eJhvCt5vY0Figured I'd share this here. If you have any questions you'd like to ask us RE the optic or how it compares to some of the other popular ones out there, don't hesitate to ask. - Josh, 9HR |
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Posted: 5/12/2020 1:02:33 PM EDT
[#8]
Sorry if I missed it, but when are these expected to be available?
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Posted: 5/12/2020 1:59:06 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By HKocher: Sorry if I missed it, but when are these expected to be available? First shipment has already gone out. I've seen some popping up for sale on various forums. |
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Posted: 5/12/2020 3:57:56 PM EDT
[#10]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By HKocher: Sorry if I missed it, but when are these expected to be available? They are out now. Check with vendors to see if they have any left as they have been selling fast and with all the initial reports they will continue to do so. |
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Posted: 5/12/2020 7:12:37 PM EDT
[#11]
Got to play with my new toy yesterday. This thing is awesome. I even had my friend with a Gen II-E with me so I was able to shoot both side by side. \
One thing I realized is that I still haven't found the right ammo for my AR. It has a stainless Noveske barrel. I've tried 69gr FGGM .223, 75gr Hornady Match .223, 50gr Black Hills V-Max .223, Federal M855, and 62gr Hornady Black .223. The best group I was able to pull so far is about 1.75" @ 100yds with the Hornady Black for a 5 shot group. That one group in particular lead me to believe there is a significant powder charge variation with that ammo. My groups would all be like 3 in a ~1" cluster, then two about an inch and a half below basically touching. Does anyone have any recommendations? Also, if anyone has any questions about the optic, go ahead and shoot!   
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Posted: 5/12/2020 11:48:27 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ronjohnbb: Got to play with my new toy yesterday. This thing is awesome. I even had my friend with a Gen II-E with me so I was able to shoot both side by side. One thing I realized is that I still haven't found the right ammo for my AR. It has a stainless Noveske barrel. I've tried 69gr FGGM .223, 75gr Hornady Match .223, 50gr Black Hills V-Max .223, Federal M855, and 62gr Hornady Black .223. The best group I was able to pull so far is about 1.75" @ 100yds with the Hornady Black for a 5 shot group. That one group in particular lead me to believe there is a significant powder charge variation with that ammo. My groups would all be like 3 in a ~1" cluster, then two about an inch and a half below basically touching. Does anyone have any recommendations? Also, if anyone has any questions about the optic, go ahead and shoot! https://i.imgur.com/NYGKO2F.jpg https://i.imgur.com/GjSfEg4.jpg https://i.imgur.com/EAC5Diq.jpg @ronjohnbb Check the barrel nut and crown on your barrel. I’m probably in the bottom half of the shooters here for marksmanship but with both my 5.56 and 300BLK SS 10.3-10.5” Noveske barrels when using a 1-4x Trijicon and an ELCAN at 100 yards, I am literally stacking bullets. This is seated at shooting bench either bi-pod or steadied on the magazine. Sure, I get a “not an expert” flier or two out of a 5 shot group but each time, I positively know it is me. Sometimes I’ll get on a HSLD run where there will be 5 shots and a figure 8 looking hole in the paper. I’m confident that if a robot arm took 10 shots With my barrels, there would be an oblong hole as a result. For 5.56, ammo doesn’t seem to factor in either. I don’t do any Freedom Munitions or reloads... Just those Wally World 100 and 50 packs (Federal maybe?). Also had great luck with ZQI. Seriously, the barrels are so good, they made me a better shooter because (in my mind) they took the barrel part of shooting out of the equation. Every hit on paper is a direct result solely attributable to my aim, hold, breathing and trigger pull. My barrels are from 2011-2012 if I remember correctly. Hell... the .300 I bought used F2F in my AO. Hope this helps. |
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Posted: 5/12/2020 11:56:12 PM EDT
[#13]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ronjohnbb: Got to play with my new toy yesterday. This thing is awesome. I even had my friend with a Gen II-E with me so I was able to shoot both side by side. One thing I realized is that I still haven't found the right ammo for my AR. It has a stainless Noveske barrel. I've tried 69gr FGGM .223, 75gr Hornady Match .223, 50gr Black Hills V-Max .223, Federal M855, and 62gr Hornady Black .223. The best group I was able to pull so far is about 1.75" @ 100yds with the Hornady Black for a 5 shot group. That one group in particular lead me to believe there is a significant powder charge variation with that ammo. My groups would all be like 3 in a ~1" cluster, then two about an inch and a half below basically touching. Does anyone have any recommendations? Also, if anyone has any questions about the optic, go ahead and shoot! https://i.imgur.com/NYGKO2F.jpg https://i.imgur.com/GjSfEg4.jpg https://i.imgur.com/EAC5Diq.jpg @ronjohnbb Forgot to ask... What exact model Geissele Mount are you running? It looks centered on the rings, base towards front of upper and eyepiece appears to be located exactly where I would set mine. Can you take a side pic of the gun so that I can get a better look at the scope setup geometry, etc.? Thanks! |
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Posted: 5/13/2020 7:53:12 AM EDT
[#14]
Man I really want to build a 14.5" .308 and slap this puppy on there
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Posted: 5/13/2020 1:01:01 PM EDT
[#15]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ronjohnbb: Got to play with my new toy yesterday. This thing is awesome. I even had my friend with a Gen II-E with me so I was able to shoot both side by side. One thing I realized is that I still haven't found the right ammo for my AR. It has a stainless Noveske barrel. I've tried 69gr FGGM .223, 75gr Hornady Match .223, 50gr Black Hills V-Max .223, Federal M855, and 62gr Hornady Black .223. The best group I was able to pull so far is about 1.75" @ 100yds with the Hornady Black for a 5 shot group. That one group in particular lead me to believe there is a significant powder charge variation with that ammo. My groups would all be like 3 in a ~1" cluster, then two about an inch and a half below basically touching. Does anyone have any recommendations? Also, if anyone has any questions about the optic, go ahead and shoot! https://i.imgur.com/NYGKO2F.jpg https://i.imgur.com/GjSfEg4.jpg https://i.imgur.com/EAC5Diq.jpg Something is wrong. I've never had a chrome lined gun that wouldn't shoot 1.5-1.75moa 10 shot groups with a variety of ammo, and usually 1-1.2 with the round it likes. Noveske SS barrels are decent barrels. I'd expect 0.75-1.25 at worst from it with some of what you listed. |
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Posted: 5/13/2020 7:45:40 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By PFran42: @ronjohnbb Check the barrel nut and crown on your barrel. I’m probably in the bottom half of the shooters here for marksmanship but with both my 5.56 and 300BLK SS 10.3-10.5” Noveske barrels when using a 1-4x Trijicon and an ELCAN at 100 yards, I am literally stacking bullets. This is seated at shooting bench either bi-pod or steadied on the magazine. Sure, I get a “not an expert” flier or two out of a 5 shot group but each time, I positively know it is me. Sometimes I’ll get on a HSLD run where there will be 5 shots and a figure 8 looking hole in the paper. I’m confident that if a robot arm took 10 shots With my barrels, there would be an oblong hole as a result. For 5.56, ammo doesn’t seem to factor in either. I don’t do any Freedom Munitions or reloads... Just those Wally World 100 and 50 packs (Federal maybe?). Also had great luck with ZQI. Seriously, the barrels are so good, they made me a better shooter because (in my mind) they took the barrel part of shooting out of the equation. Every hit on paper is a direct result solely attributable to my aim, hold, breathing and trigger pull. My barrels are from 2011-2012 if I remember correctly. Hell... the .300 I bought used F2F in my AO. Hope this helps. The crown looks good. As far as the barrel nut goes, what should I be checking? This is really disappointing. I've had this barrel since late 2016 and it's never shot groups like that. At this point I have almost 2,000 rounds through it. I did have the upper barreled by Dark Storm Industries. They do a lot of shoddy work, but I don't have the equipment to do a barrel install. They also did the pin and weld for my initial SFMB556, then they removed it and did another pin and weld on my SF3P after I got sick of my teeth jumping around every time I let a round go. I hope they didn't screw my barrel up when they assembled it. Or maybe I just got a factory lemon from Noveske? This is the exact mount configuration I have.  Here's a photo from the side. I hope this helps.  Thanks for the reply. |
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Posted: 5/13/2020 7:57:47 PM EDT
[#17]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By JohnDough: Something is wrong. I've never had a chrome lined gun that wouldn't shoot 1.5-1.75moa 10 shot groups with a variety of ammo, and usually 1-1.2 with the round it likes. Noveske SS barrels are decent barrels. I'd expect 0.75-1.25 at worst from it with some of what you listed. That's what I'm starting to think... Damnit. I know when I pull a shot and I call it, and I know I can shoot pretty damn well. This really sucks. I really don't want to rebarrel this thing right now. |
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Posted: 5/13/2020 8:08:52 PM EDT
[#18]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ronjohnbb: That's what I'm starting to think... Damnit. I know when I pull a shot and I call it, and I know I can shoot pretty damn well. This really sucks. I really don't want to rebarrel this thing right now. When you get a good barrel, you know it before 100 rounds. A Noveske SS (at least from when John was with us) should be jaw-on-floor good. If you aim a VIS laser at a bullseye and you aren’t hitting the bullseye, it is immediately evident that it isn’t the laser’s fault. Can you bore scope it or at least get a powerful LED on one end and a camera on the other so that you can get some sharp pics of the lands and grooves? Re: barrel nut. Check to ensure you have good tension. You don’t necessarily need a torque wrench. You just need to make sure it is snuggled up fairly good and not being held to the receiver by something massively weak like 5 ft.lbs. |
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Posted: 5/13/2020 8:12:31 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryI did have the upper barreled by Dark Storm Industries. They do a lot of shoddy work, but I don't have the equipment to do a barrel install. They also did the pin and weld for my initial SFMB556, then they removed it and did another pin and weld on my SF3P after I got sick of my teeth jumping around every time I let a round go. I hope they didn't screw my barrel up when they assembled it. They could have messed up the barrel if they got it too hot. |
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Posted: 5/14/2020 6:54:18 PM EDT
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For those that have the scope, are you seeing any anomalies with the illumination on? I am trying to figure out if I got a bad copy. The one I received shows five bright spots that correspond with the tips of the tails on all the number 6. Visible even at low illumination, throughout the magnification range once the tree is visible. It wouldn't be a big deal, except those points are not on any crosshair point but draw the eye to them. I sent an email off to vortex last weekend...still waiting to hear from them, but wanted to see if others were seeing it also. Sorry for the poor pics, it's the best I could get. Three pictures to scroll through at: https://imgur.com/gallery/b0CJO1b |
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Posted: 5/14/2020 7:22:42 PM EDT
[#21]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Hatari: https://ibb.co/93LD0n9https://ibb.co/X5tJq3p For those that have the scope, are you seeing any anomalies with the illumination on? I am trying to figure out if I got a bad copy. The one I received shows five bright spots that correspond with the tips of the tails on all the number 6. Visible even at low illumination, throughout the magnification range once the tree is visible. It wouldn't be a big deal, except those points are not on any crosshair point but draw the eye to them. I sent an email off to vortex last weekend...still waiting to hear from them, but wanted to see if others were seeing it also. Sorry for the poor pics, it's the best I could get. Three pictures to scroll through at: https://imgur.com/gallery/b0CJO1b Looks like the illumination is turned up markedly too high for the environment honestly. |
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Posted: 5/14/2020 7:23:12 PM EDT
[#22]
Mine does it, too. It's a bit weird, but I don't find it very distracting. I agree that this is definitely more noticeable when you crank up illumination really high when you don't need it to. It would be interesting to hear if this was intentional or some sort of reticle etching defect.
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Posted: 5/14/2020 7:33:52 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By JohnDough: Looks like the illumination is turned up markedly too high for the environment honestly. I had to turn it up to get the photo. The points are visible to the eye at low illumination. |
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Posted: 5/14/2020 7:34:55 PM EDT
[#24]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By erwos: Mine does it, too. It's a bit weird, but I don't find it very distracting. I agree that this is definitely more noticeable when you crank up illumination really high when you don't need it to. It would be interesting to hear if this was intentional or some sort of reticle etching defect. Interesting, at least, that it’s not just mine. |
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Posted: 5/14/2020 7:45:21 PM EDT
[#25]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Hatari: Interesting, at least, that it’s not just mine. Have you contacted Vortex yet? |
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Posted: 5/14/2020 7:47:04 PM EDT
[#26]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Rob01: Have you contacted Vortex yet? From his post - "I sent an email off to vortex last weekend...still waiting to hear from them, but wanted to see if others were seeing it also." |
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Posted: 5/14/2020 7:50:08 PM EDT
[#27]
Didn’t see his first post but he has been posting at SH too and I was wondering if he had contacted them as he seems unhappy.
Hatari call Vortex. Sometimes emails get missed. |
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Posted: 5/14/2020 7:58:44 PM EDT
[#28]
I’ll call them if they don’t respond soon, wanted to give them some time for the email since I know everyone is a bit swamped right now. Just getting anxious since my mount is due to arrive this weekend. I don’t want to mount it until I hear what they say though. That, plus I’ve been swamped working on a proposal for the past month.
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Posted: 5/14/2020 8:00:04 PM EDT
[#29]
Don’t wait. Call tomorrow. They want you to reach out if an issue and are there to help. Call.
Well if work is done that is. Lol |
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Posted: 5/14/2020 8:22:18 PM EDT
[#30]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Rob01: Don’t wait. Call tomorrow. They want you to reach out if an issue and are there to help. Call. Well if work is done that is. Lol (Hangs head in shame). Yes sir...  |
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Posted: 5/14/2020 8:25:29 PM EDT
[#31]
Yup that’s the number. They will help you out. Great people to talk to.
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Posted: 5/15/2020 1:25:50 AM EDT
[#32]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Hatari: https://ibb.co/93LD0n9https://ibb.co/X5tJq3p For those that have the scope, are you seeing any anomalies with the illumination on? I am trying to figure out if I got a bad copy. The one I received shows five bright spots that correspond with the tips of the tails on all the number 6. Visible even at low illumination, throughout the magnification range once the tree is visible. It wouldn't be a big deal, except those points are not on any crosshair point but draw the eye to them. I sent an email off to vortex last weekend...still waiting to hear from them, but wanted to see if others were seeing it also. Sorry for the poor pics, it's the best I could get. Three pictures to scroll through at: https://imgur.com/gallery/b0CJO1b I posted about this and vortex responded a couple of weeks ago when I got mine. It should be a few pages back. |
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Posted: 5/15/2020 8:26:39 AM EDT
[#33]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ronjohnbb: I posted about this and vortex responded a couple of weeks ago when I got mine. It should be a few pages back. https://www.ar15.com/forums/AR-15/Vortex-Razor-Gen-III-1-10-Searched-didn-t-see-this-mentioned-yet-My-interest-is-piqued/18-747198/?page=10#i8082712 |
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Posted: 5/15/2020 10:47:32 AM EDT
[#34]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ronjohnbb: I posted about this and vortex responded a couple of weeks ago when I got mine. It should be a few pages back. Thanks, I completely missed that. Looks like they didn’t really answer the question, just deflected and asked about why it would be up so high. The five points are the first thing that light up in mine. Then as intensity is increased the diagonal line on he lower “arrow” and eventually the tree. So, I’m on the phone with a tech right now. Not getting a definitive answer since they are working from home and he can’t just reach over and grab one for comparison. He did say he didn’t remember seeing similar last time he looked through one at a 5 setting in daylight. But that is obviously a memory function. Thy are going o take a look at it....probably tell me I’m an idiot and it’s normal for this type of reticle...but at least I’ll know and likely have learned something. |
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Posted: 5/15/2020 11:08:21 AM EDT
[#35]
They pretty much said it was normal in that post. My gut feeling is that it was an unanticipated consequence of how they formed the sixes on the reticle. I think it's a bit ugly, but I really doubt you'd somehow confuse those points of light for the center of the reticle. It would not shock me if they made a slight reticle change in future batches to avoid it.
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Posted: 5/15/2020 2:02:14 PM EDT
[#36]
Hatari I got around to checking mine. On high illumination on 10x it appears the top tips of all the "6" in the reticle has a small amount of illumination which appears to be dots. When set where illumination power is properly set for my eyes and for conditions and pointing into daylight on a higher illumination around 6 and indoors at lower around 3 it's not noticeable though and that is on 10x. Seems only noticeable in darker conditions with the illumination power turned up higher that would be used and on the higher magnification. I will live with it for everything else the scope has to offer as it's a small imperfection in a great scope.
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Posted: 5/15/2020 5:12:39 PM EDT
[#37]
 Attached FileHere is mine mounted and ready for the range. It's so much more fun to look through mounted.  I have the MRAD version, and it appears I have the same issues as those above. I dont see it being a problem for myself, as I hadn't noticed it until it was pointed out. I certainly will now, though. Lol. But still, I dont see it being a hindrance for how I plan on using it. I love everything else about it and can't wait to get out shooting with it. |
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Posted: 5/15/2020 8:07:36 PM EDT
[#38]
Don’t have this issue in my MOA version.
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Posted: 5/15/2020 10:07:27 PM EDT
[#39]
Anyone have a ballpark for when the next batch of these are going to be sent to distributors?
I don’t need to know to the week.... Is it a month away, 3 months, 6 months? I’m thinking of cancelling my Liberty Optics order and moving that money over to my NV Bino fund. |
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Posted: 5/16/2020 12:43:00 PM EDT
[#40]
Mine wound up on my 12.5". With my estimation and math the MOA BDC reticle should line up almost perfectly for M855 and well for other similar 62gr defensive loads. Gotta get the build out and chrono the loads to confirm.
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Posted: 5/16/2020 1:15:23 PM EDT
[#41]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By PFran42: Anyone have a ballpark for when the next batch of these are going to be sent to distributors? I don’t need to know to the week.... Is it a month away, 3 months, 6 months? I’m thinking of cancelling my Liberty Optics order and moving that money over to my NV Bino fund. I'm patiently waiting for mine from there as well, I don't mind so I haven't asked him but if you look in your receipt email there is an address to inquire. [email protected] Eta. I believe when we ordered it was looking like 4 weeks according to someone else in this thread. |
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Posted: 5/16/2020 6:33:53 PM EDT
[#42]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Rob01: Hatari I got around to checking mine. On high illumination on 10x it appears the top tips of all the "6" in the reticle has a small amount of illumination which appears to be dots. When set where illumination power is properly set for my eyes and for conditions and pointing into daylight on a higher illumination around 6 and indoors at lower around 3 it's not noticeable though and that is on 10x. Seems only noticeable in darker conditions with the illumination power turned up higher that would be used and on the higher magnification. I will live with it for everything else the scope has to offer as it's a small imperfection in a great scope. Thanks for testing. Now I am wondering if mine may be brighter than others on similar settings (I.e. better than average vs a problem one). I agree, everything else about the scope is nice. I may double think sending it in and just accept the points as it seems to be how it is made from what I’m reading here. My mount got here today and I’d really like to set things up... |
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Posted: 5/17/2020 8:38:26 PM EDT
[#43]
I just shot mine 7-300 today at an outdoor carbine class. Wasn't even all that sunny outside. The tips of the sixes being lit are a total non-issue, even with the illumination being cranked to the 9 or 10 setting. Knew they were there, didn't even notice them. 300yd BDC held up just fine with a quick 50yd zero and Wolf Gold (~3110fps, according to my Magnetospeed V3).
Looking at a scope in your house is a lot different than using it at high speed in class or a match... just sayin'. |
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Posted: 5/18/2020 12:43:34 PM EDT
[#44]
From the way the illumination features are being described, you're seeing the illumination reflect off the edge of the chrome features in the reticle, which is something that happens in most every illuminated reticle - especially ones that are mega bright like the Razor Gen III's.
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Posted: 5/18/2020 1:30:10 PM EDT
[#45]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By erwos: I just shot mine 7-300 today at an outdoor carbine class. Wasn't even all that sunny outside. The tips of the sixes being lit are a total non-issue, even with the illumination being cranked to the 9 or 10 setting. Knew they were there, didn't even notice them. 300yd BDC held up just fine with a quick 50yd zero and Wolf Gold (~3110fps, according to my Magnetospeed V3). Looking at a scope in your house is a lot different than using it at high speed in class or a match... just sayin'. Thanks for posting some real world info! Is the 1-10X BDC setup for a 50 yard or a 100 yard zero? |
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Posted: 5/18/2020 1:39:49 PM EDT
[#46]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By sigman68: Thanks for posting some real world info! Is the 1-10X BDC setup for a 50 yard or a 100 yard zero? I did it at 50yds because it was convenient at the outdoor range I was shooting at, and it was actually more appropriate for the BDC than 100yds (the MOA reticle is really looking for a 200yd zero). When I get access to a 50yd indoor range again, I will probably tweak it down to ~40yds so I get a true 200yd zero (or so Strelok Pro claims with my ammo). |
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Posted: 5/18/2020 1:41:21 PM EDT
[#47]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By sigman68: Thanks for posting some real world info! Is the 1-10X BDC setup for a 50 yard or a 100 yard zero? The BDC is set up for a 50/200 yards zero and holds from there. I used it out to 550 yards and it hit first shot all the way out on the steel which was about 2 moa in size. It’s basically the same bdc used in the JM-1 reticle but with more hold marks. |
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Posted: 5/26/2020 12:42:04 PM EDT
[#48]
Anyone got a shipping notification from Liberty?
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Posted: 5/26/2020 2:04:24 PM EDT
[#49]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Anyone got a shipping notification from Liberty? Negative. |
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Posted: 5/26/2020 3:48:07 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Negative. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Anyone got a shipping notification from Liberty? Negative. Nope. Just sent an email. |
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